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On May 25 2012 03:06 Mattchew wrote:Show nested quote +On May 25 2012 02:57 Katina wrote:
As for Mattchew, I mean really? Do I even have to explain why I think he's scum and want to lynch him?
He has been completely ignoring me when I have called him out. Wait. He ignores just about everything and only comments when he has a qoute for it. He's not being helpful at all to the town and it annoys me that he is still alive and not being considered for the lynch. Others have commented on how annoying his qoutes are but yet no one has felt the need to vote for him. "If you want to test wisdom, offer it to fools and watch how they tear it up."+ Show Spoiler [ALL THAT CONTENT THAT I'VE IGNORED] +On May 23 2012 07:21 Katina wrote:
I think for tomorrow's lynch candidates should be Mattchew or N_T On May 24 2012 03:53 Katina wrote:
You know Mattchew, your quotes are cute and all but I can't help wonder what your motivation is for doing so. The games I have played in with you are nothing like this. Are you and N_T Mafia buddies? On May 24 2012 06:39 Katina wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2012 06:10 Mattchew wrote:
"Mattchew will never be able to quote this." -Artanis "You are Scum" - Katina On May 22 2012 06:03 marvellosity wrote:
##Vote: Mattchew
I just can't bear it.
On May 22 2012 05:37 Navillus wrote:
Okaaay so my WBG vote was a joke, I do not actually think it's a good idea to lynch one of our 2 vets on that basis alone and I am not really of the opinion that advice is an automatic scum-tell, it'd be nice to have a little benefit of the doubt on me not being an idiot.
Next ##Unvote
##Vote: Mattchew
As far as I can tell he's just posting with flavor text from mtg cards, if that continues I don't really care if he's scum or town it makes him impossible to read, doesn't let him contribute, and makes for a really shitty atmosphere. Mattchew stop it.
On May 22 2012 18:11 Tunkeg wrote:
I am not sure if I can call this a case. But I really want to lynch Mattchew today. I don't have a long analysis on him, because well it is impossible to deceipher what he is saying. But my reasons are:
- He lurked through the entire start of the game.
- When he bothered to post it was all trollposts.
- I see his play as totally anti-town. And I can't see a reason to why a townie would behave this way, unless they don't care about the game at all.
Am I sold on the fact that he is scum. Not necessarily. But together with NT and Zealos he is the one I have the scummiest feeling about. The difference between Mattchew and these guys is that they are actually posting thing that you can analyse, and this can either strengthen the suspicioun on them or lessen it. For Mattchew he will probably keep this up the entire game, and whether town or scum really mess up the scumhunting environment. So I want to lynch Mattchew because he is as likely to be scum as the other two, but losing him if he is town is far better than losing the other two if they are town.
There is one arguement for not lynching him though, and that is: Would really scum draw this much attention to themself? Most likely not, but in TL Mafia where disruptive players never get lynched it would be a viable strategy.
##Vote Mattchew
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"It always amazes me what perfectly good things people throw away." —Ludevic, necro-alchemist
This thread has gotten so retarded you have forced me to actually type.
Katina, you are dumb because you think there is a case against me.
VE, you are dumb because you are blinded by outside the game influences like your dislike towards WBG (and vice versa) and the notion that for the game to be balanced you cant both be town. You may stop bringing these up, but you can tell they are there by how unbelievably forced everything you have done regarding WBG is.
Marv you are dumb for asking me repeatedly for a case on zelblade and then ignoring it completely.
The rest of you are dumb because you are letting this all happen or lurking.
This is a threadwide OMGUS.
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oh and katina, what the fuck did you want me to respond to, "are you and NT scumbuddies?" You haven't posted jack shit about me
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and can someone point out to me something actually scummy that zealos or NT has done or a scum-tell that they have revealed to you, because i don't really see it with either of them.
Zealos might not be the best player but atleast he keeps his promises (despite barely any pressure to do so) and I don't think his case on hiropro is half bad.
NT most recently fought against a VE and WBG shitstorm. I can't see the scum motive in that.
Zelblade is scum, no one actually wants to read his filter or say otherwise.
and VE, I don't think WBG is scum because IDC if he ignores you. Ever since you said it wouldnt be balanced for you to be on the same team, you have had a completely skewed direction of questions and accusations at him. He also is not letting you cause the shitstorm for w.e reason you so desperately want to start.
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On May 25 2012 03:24 VisceraEyes wrote:
Mattchew guy...my case has nothing to do with balance. Bugs has been manipulative and contradictory...the fact that you say that my case has ANYTHING to do with balance then you're obviously not even reading.
you have been so contradictory too it blows my mind. The only reason I think your town is because of how you are pushing your read.
When I look at your case you say he is manipulative in his advice, but look at the fucking playerlist, this group needs advice. Also, his advice about MrZentor is solid because mrzentor herp derped and shot and never claimed it, and then like tried to claim shooting again or some shit. He was basically the worst vig ever.
His contraction is not a contradiction at all. Focusing on someone is WAY different then keeping an eye on them. Focusing on someone means putting them in the spotlight, while keeping an eye on them is just watching them (almost secondarily) as the game progresses.
You not realizing this is just showing how clouded your thoughts on the matter are.
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On May 25 2012 03:28 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On May 25 2012 03:13 Acid~ wrote:On May 25 2012 02:03 wherebugsgo wrote:On May 25 2012 01:58 Acid~ wrote:On May 25 2012 01:53 wherebugsgo wrote:
Marvellosity you just have to read my posts. I'm not giving you nothing and you know that. I'm trying to lynch Zealos just as much as you are, but as long as other players are defending him indirectly by voting other players, but not calling him town, we can't get him killed.
Think about it, everyone calls him suspicious but their votes end up elsewhere.
VE at this point is just being annoying and confrontational. I don't particularly care right now why he keeps calling me scum, since he's obviously wrong, but if today's lynch does not fall on scum then I'll take the responsibility for the lynch.
You can lynch me after and town can lose. I said I'd be OK for a Zealos lynch. I'm willing to change my vote from zelblade to Zealos if you can tell me why you think zelblade isn't scum. Whether or not Zealos is scum at this point has absolutely nothing to do with zelblade's alignment and therefore I'm obligated to do anything for you in terms of showing you that zelblade is town or whatever. Either you think Zealos is scum or not. Right now I don't feel like sparing very much effort since there's no point when more than half of you don't read to begin with. And I'm not obligated to follow your directions. Who made you king of the fucking hill? My strongest scumread is Zelblade right now and I intend to push for his death unless someone either 1. makes a case for zelblade's innocence (good luck) 2. makes a stronger case for another lynch As I said, the case against Zealos is not inexistant, but it's not strong either. You realize that in order to kill someone in this game, you have to convince them of your correctness? In other words if you want us to kill zelblade over zealos then you should convince us to kill him instead of telling us to convince you to not kill zelblade. It's called burden of proof; the burden of proof is always on the person making the assertion. If you make the assertion that zelblade is scum, then YOU should be the one to explain it. No one is obligated to show you why zelblade is innocent or whatever. As town I don't even know if zelblade is innocent. Anyway, the case on Zealos has already been put forth; read Marvellosity's filter. If you don't want to do that then I don't see how you expect to win, as reading is mandatory to do almost anything else in a game of mafia. You call the zealos case not strong. What parts of it are weak?
discuss zelblade with me
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On May 25 2012 03:43 Tunkeg wrote:Show nested quote +On May 25 2012 02:59 VisceraEyes wrote:
Katina can I interest you in a thrilling WBG, Nova, Mattchew, Zealos scumteam? This can very well be the scumteam. NT, Mattchew and Zealos where my strongest day one scumreads. And I think you are perfectly right about WBG, I get a stronger and stronger feeling that he is scum. I also find it wierd that Mattchew suddenly start posting, now that you are fireing at WBG. Makes me think that the scumteam have decided that he needs to start posting and help out WBG. So even if these guys are giving you a hard time don't give up VE. They do it because they are scum.
If you think I am still scum after I stopped posting in flavor text with NO pressure and in an effort to focus the thread and not let it erupt in chaos, you are either scum or really stupid
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On May 25 2012 03:43 Katina wrote:
Thank you for joining us Mattchew <3
what did you want me to answer?
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On May 25 2012 03:43 Katina wrote:
Thank you for joining us Mattchew <3
and where is this alleged strong case against me?
On May 25 2012 03:13 Katina wrote:
I think N_T and Mattchew come first. The cases against those two are much stronger than Zealos.
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On May 25 2012 02:08 Mattchew wrote:Zelblade FilterLurking below the current, she thirsts until others come to drink.Show nested quote +On May 23 2012 21:10 zelblade wrote:
will probably present my thoughts tomorrow. A chain of lies as strong as steel.
Show nested quote +On May 22 2012 23:51 zelblade wrote:
Whilst sheeping isnt neccessarily a scumtell, I dont like how jumpy his vote has been, going from person to person
Show nested quote +On May 23 2012 00:00 zelblade wrote:
Apparently I screwed up that quote tag -_-
Eh I just realised its pluarity lynch lol. I am considering if I should dump my vote on zealos and see if it gains any traction or onto one of the three leading candidates. Kind of a hard decision since I wouldnt mind all of them dying.
Mattchew is still being a pain in the ass, though his posts are starting to get understandable, and he actually has more content than say, mouldy jeb. Probably not the best lynch today, think hes town.
I still think nova is scummy. But mouldy more so. Agree with marv's case generally.
##vote: Mouldy Jeb
"I'd be happy to stop contradicting you, Urza, just as soon as you start being right." —Bo Levar, planeswalker
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He lurks, lies, empty promises, and has contradictions WBG
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On May 25 2012 03:53 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On May 25 2012 03:52 Mattchew wrote:
He lurks, lies, empty promises, and has contradictions WBG Nothing in comparison to Zealos, as outlined.
the difference is i don't see the scum motive in zealos's faults
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look at the time and date of my post
On May 23 2012 21:10 zelblade wrote:
will probably present my thoughts tomorrow.
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On May 25 2012 03:57 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On May 25 2012 03:54 Mattchew wrote:On May 25 2012 03:53 marvellosity wrote:On May 25 2012 03:52 Mattchew wrote:
He lurks, lies, empty promises, and has contradictions WBG Nothing in comparison to Zealos, as outlined. the difference is i don't see the scum motive in zealos's faults You don't see the scum motive, in for example, saying I couldn't defend myself for Acrofales and then later accusing me based on it? You don't see the scum motive in, say, lynching a townie because he didn't have any reads despite the fact he could have made them? You don't see the scum motive in him saying there was nothing scummy to see, and then waking up AFTER the lynch and finding such things? Are you blind?
you cant defend yourself against them (cause you arent him), but that doesnt mean they cant be used and should be thrown away like they never happened. (Acro gave me my initial townread on you guys btw)
I don't know what you are referring to with your 2nd point.
I don't know when he actually sleeps so idk why that matters. Also, I think it would have been easier for him as scum to just sit idle and let the thread go wild then to make the comments he did. He doesn't seem stubborn with his reads or thoughts, which I find to be pretty telling that he doesn't have much information.
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On May 25 2012 03:59 marvellosity wrote:
I am not voting for zelblade when the entirety of the case against him is that he said he would probably post reads and he hasn't.
That's not enough.
Are you blind?
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On May 25 2012 04:06 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On May 25 2012 04:04 Mattchew wrote:On May 25 2012 03:57 marvellosity wrote:On May 25 2012 03:54 Mattchew wrote:On May 25 2012 03:53 marvellosity wrote:On May 25 2012 03:52 Mattchew wrote:
He lurks, lies, empty promises, and has contradictions WBG Nothing in comparison to Zealos, as outlined. the difference is i don't see the scum motive in zealos's faults You don't see the scum motive, in for example, saying I couldn't defend myself for Acrofales and then later accusing me based on it? You don't see the scum motive in, say, lynching a townie because he didn't have any reads despite the fact he could have made them? You don't see the scum motive in him saying there was nothing scummy to see, and then waking up AFTER the lynch and finding such things? Are you blind? you cant defend yourself against them (cause you arent him), but that doesnt mean they cant be used and should be thrown away like they never happened. (Acro gave me my initial townread on you guys btw) I don't know what you are referring to with your 2nd point. I don't know when he actually sleeps so idk why that matters. Also, I think it would have been easier for him as scum to just sit idle and let the thread go wild then to make the comments he did. He doesn't seem stubborn with his reads or thoughts, which I find to be pretty telling that he doesn't have much information. Alright, let's do zelblade. Something came up in his life and he couldn't play mafia. Oh look town motivation. Shall we discard both cases now?
Why would he point something out as being scummy (jumping around) and then in his next post name 3 players and vote a new one (who 2 of his scum reads were also voting)
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On May 25 2012 04:11 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'm not sold on Zelblade either.
Why?
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On May 23 2012 00:00 zelblade wrote:
Apparently I screwed up that quote tag -_-
Eh I just realised its pluarity lynch lol. I am considering if I should dump my vote on zealos and see if it gains any traction or onto one of the three leading candidates. Kind of a hard decision since I wouldnt mind all of them dying.
Mattchew is still being a pain in the ass, though his posts are starting to get understandable, and he actually has more content than say, mouldy jeb. Probably not the best lynch today, think hes town.
I still think nova is scummy. But mouldy more so. Agree with marv's case generally.
##vote: Mouldy Jeb
Also I am going to sleep soon (school) so I probably cant change my vote (deadline sucks for me as usual -_-).
Everyone he is accusing in this post (and basically the entire game) is also voting Mouldy Jeb
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On May 25 2012 04:13 Mattchew wrote:Why?
really you're going to ignore me more than you have already?
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