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On May 23 2012 07:20 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On May 23 2012 07:17 Nova_Terra wrote:
its dumb as hell when suddenly your posts look uber right and good even with no backing up because you have games played and you have good capitalization skills
maybe you could try to play as if you were new and had no caps lock, i bet things that went your way would be more filter based and based on known truth What are you so worried about? The lynch just happened bro. Where's all this bravado that was coming out in the minutes before the lynch? Why the sudden turn to despair and futility? Here, I'll even keep score so you don't have to worry anymore. VisceraEyes : 0
Scum : 1As you can see, you've pulled ahead early. Surely things are looking up for you yeah?
i mentioned this earlier too, not just now
what negativity and despair
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On May 23 2012 07:23 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On May 23 2012 07:22 Nova_Terra wrote:On May 23 2012 07:20 marvellosity wrote:On May 23 2012 07:19 Nova_Terra wrote:On May 23 2012 07:14 marvellosity wrote:On May 23 2012 07:13 Nova_Terra wrote:On May 23 2012 07:10 marvellosity wrote:
Hrmph. I want to lynch into Katina/HiroPro/Zealos tomorrow. Do you think you will be able to make a good case on any of them or should i attempt one What an odd question. You attempt a case on whoever you think is scummiest, how's that for a plan? meh. we'll see What in god's name do you mean by 'we'll see'? You may fucking grace us by making a case? Yep, beautiful idea i should think VE: this is why I want Nova shot.
i try to suggest that im gonna make a case and you want me shot
i feel unloved</3
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oooh wait, you werent asking me for whos scummiest so that i have to make a case on that person
massive misreading on my part, i'll give myself the benefit of the doubt and say im not dumb, its just half past 12 in the morning
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On May 23 2012 07:20 EchelonTee wrote:
wait a minute I just realized VE is dying tonight
dude u better post ur reads. remember soaf
Yeah man, trust me I remember.
I'll be posting them per SOP just before dawn.
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Acid I think ur scummy because
1. lurking for much of the beginning of the day. average scum trait
you don't go for anyone until things have started chugging a long. in a mini like this, scum are going to hide around a lot. they probably goign to have a few active members, but the way you've been lurking, not pushing things or being provocative (save for your one single minded focus) seems like u want to avoid the spotlight, like ur disinterested in extensive scumhunting.
2. using faulty logic to push someone, crutched upon by a few points of decent logic. common scum trait
ur initial reason for being susp. of marv was "voting w/o logic and buddying with nova" wasn't good at all and felt fake, just cuz u needed to vote. first point isn't true, second one isn't inherently scummy. ur later point of marv's change of opinion on NT is a decent point, but it looks like ur just trying to build and build and build a rolling case instead of actually try and re-examine ur case.
it's prety common for scum to pick a candidate to tunnel for, preferrably one that isn't immediately going to be lycnhed, It makes you look constructive, but you don't take the blame for townie lynches if the lynch doesn't go through
3. didn't mention jeb at all. scum don't want to talk about mislynches as much as possible
when there's a townie mislynch, scum often are one of the random single voters on other people (citation: Ver's Mafia guide). Most townies want to consoliidate a strong lynch so will focus on a few candidates. Scum would rather avoid the town bandwagons. The only townies who stay off the main candidates are especially stubborn players (Toad, VE), and I don't get that vibe from you
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clarification on #3 - scum can often be one of the middle voters (people who get the wagon rolling), and sometimes an instigator, but the whole team very likely did not exclusively vote for the wagon and were scattered
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I'm off for a while now but I will say
1. People need to be more active, way too many people are lurking right now and it's gonna make it easy for scum to hide among the lurkers, if people continue to lurk like they are we're going to need to take some of them out, on a related note
2. Vigis if they choose to shoot tonight (and from the start I would probably advise against that) should shoot into the lurker pool, it has a decent to good chance of hitting scum as I'm willing to bet at least a couple of them are hiding among the lurkers and I would much prefer vigs shooting lurkers to them trying to make big plays by unilaterally deciding that someone really active that a bunch of people have town reads on must be godfather and it's their job to stop them
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NT, slow down your posting and try and be more constructive, as in don't fight with people, build cases first then talk about scumminess later, etc. It seems like ur starting to try and give up. If you're scum then you probably won't be able to fake it anyways, but if you just give up and disrupt the fuck out of us, ur acting like a MrZentor. you don't want to be a mrzentor
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lol what navilus? do you know how the GF role works?
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Hey, to be fair ET, if this were a situation where my vote was needed to make a vote happen, I would have voted Jeb to "save the lynch"...I'll freely admit to being stubborn, but this wasn't one of those cases XD.
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Yep, I also know how to read role lists...
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GF = return town to DT checks
therefore GF often play provocatively and semi scummy, to encourage a check that will be wrong
if everyone has town reads on them being a godfather doesn't mean anything, b/c neither a DT nor a vigi should target someone that looks townie.
you GF?
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Are we seriously doing this? I chose the most important scum-role just as an example I obviously wasn't talking about how the role is supposed to be played or whatever. Also I'm pretty sure (or at least was under the impression that) when you asked me that question you were referring to how GF is usually NK-Immune which would make a vig shot stupid obviously. Either way this isn't exactly important, the point stands, vigs shouldn't try to shoot completely based on their own read that isn't shared, if it's a good read they should be able to get the lynch, if not they shouldn't be shooting off of it, as you say, a vigi shouldn't target someone that looks townie, even if they personally disagree with most people's reads, that's all I'm trying to say.
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On May 23 2012 07:32 EchelonTee wrote:
Acid I think ur scummy because
1. lurking for much of the beginning of the day. average scum trait
you don't go for anyone until things have started chugging a long. in a mini like this, scum are going to hide around a lot. they probably goign to have a few active members, but the way you've been lurking, not pushing things or being provocative (save for your one single minded focus) seems like u want to avoid the spotlight, like ur disinterested in extensive scumhunting.
Wrong. I voiced my suspicions very early in the game day, and then it was actual night IRL where I live, so I went to sleep.
2. using faulty logic to push someone, crutched upon by a few points of decent logic. common scum trait
ur initial reason for being susp. of marv was "voting w/o logic and buddying with nova" wasn't good at all and felt fake, just cuz u needed to vote. first point isn't true, second one isn't inherently scummy. ur later point of marv's change of opinion on NT is a decent point, but it looks like ur just trying to build and build and build a rolling case instead of actually try and re-examine ur case.
it's prety common for scum to pick a candidate to tunnel for, preferrably one that isn't immediately going to be lycnhed, It makes you look constructive, but you don't take the blame for townie lynches if the lynch doesn't go through
Wrong again. At this point I don't know if you genuilely suck at reading or if you're just trolling me. Marvellosity did vote without logic, as did Acrofales before him - remember they are the same role. Voting mattchew because he speaks in MTG flavor text is retarded, and the combination of that PLUS his buddying with Nova, who was giving off pretty scummy vibes, is why I voted for him. Again, if you had bothered to actually read my posts, you would have known that.
3. didn't mention jeb at all. scum don't want to talk about mislynches as much as possible
when there's a townie mislynch, scum often are one of the random single voters on other people (citation: Ver's Mafia guide). Most townies want to consoliidate a strong lynch so will focus on a few candidates. Scum would rather avoid the town bandwagons. The only townies who stay off the main candidates are especially stubborn players (Toad, VE), and I don't get that vibe from you
Seriously, this is either trolling or plain idiocy, what you're talking about only applies to games where town needs a majority vote in order to secure a lynch.
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it's just that you slipped in a mention of the godfather when it was completely unnecesary
In my first scum game, I randomly mentioned GF once when it wasn't necessary. I was GF
it's a psychology thing
(protip, most important scum role is RBer)
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why do people always say "if you actually read my posts blah blah blah"?
we're all over the 5th grade right? it's easy as fuck to read things. it's really hilarious how your response is "no ur wrong read my posts"
and OMFG can't you people REASON??????? look this is what you wrote
On May 22 2012 18:02 Acid~ wrote:
It looks like marvellosity's picked up right where Acrofales left off: buddying with Nova and voting without reasoning.
##Vote marvellosity
you said "marv voting without reasoning". he HAD REASONING; you explained it right there in your posts! is it shitty reasoning, sure! but you fcking outright lied when you said "marv voted without reasoning"
why is everyone so derp? AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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ET stop. Breathe.
If you're town, I can sense that you're going to be an asset tomorrow if you live, so please calm down and continue thinking rationally. Emotion is only going to cause you to do something you regret (like roleclaim and then write the game off, pretty much forcing town to mislynch you etc. etc. etc.)
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Okay, I'm actually leaving now and for the record I think this is a silly conversation, but I'll tell you when I wrote out that post I actually first wrote it as "head scum", but that sounded silly in my head and I thought "who would a vigi want to be all cool and shoot N1?", the answer my head gave back is GF more because the role sounds important than anything else, then I remembered that GF is usually NK-immune, then I checked the role list to confirm that, learned it wasn't to my surprise, and made that post. There's no psychological trick, no diabolical plan, I thought it sounded cool. (also thanks for the protip, seriously, I was actually unaware of that)
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On May 23 2012 08:01 EchelonTee wrote:why do people always say "if you actually read my posts blah blah blah"? we're all over the 5th grade right? it's easy as fuck to read things. it's really hilarious how your response is "no ur wrong read my posts" and OMFG can't you people REASON??????? look this is what you wrote Show nested quote +On May 22 2012 18:02 Acid~ wrote:
It looks like marvellosity's picked up right where Acrofales left off: buddying with Nova and voting without reasoning.
##Vote marvellosity you said "marv voting without reasoning". he HAD REASONING; you explained it right there in your posts! is it shitty reasoning, sure! but you fcking outright lied when you said "marv voted without reasoning"
Yeah, you're really helping your case there. You want to nitpick words, fine. It was voting without reasoning, since his vote wasn't based on reason, but on an emotional reaction to something he found annoying.
why is everyone so derp? AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
And why behold you the speck that is in your brother's eye, but consider not the beam that is in your own eye? - some dude from the bible I think
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well, if scum has a vigi or JOAT that might be better for the KP, but yeah RBer is legit
yeah I guess ur response is prty good navi. I thought it was pretty cool when jackal shot L the godfather (TL L)
Emotion is only going to cause you to do something you regret (like roleclaim and then write the game off, pretty much forcing town to mislynch you etc. etc. etc.)
LMAO
I already roleclaimed dood read ma filter
be back later, showtime
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