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Ok guys here are my final thoughts.
Re: Meapak and Kita
For those doubting Kita's claim, you need to realise it would only work if Meapak was in on the game. Otherwise Kita would be taking an even bigger risk for very little gain. Why claim he saved Meapak when
A) There could be another medic
B) Meapak could be a Vet
It is simpler to just assume he made the save. Now apart from the way Meapak has been playing the fact I have a town read on the both of them now. Think about this, if Meapak and Kita planned this whole thing Night 1, they were planning based on the expectation that there is no other medic. The only way this claim would work is if Kita could claim medic, which could be counter claimed. Yes, the other medic might not have save the same person, but two medics in this setup? It is super hella risky and it just makes more sense to assume they are town.
EchelonTee
Meapak, besides your gut you have given no reason to doubt him. Austin apparently suspects him as well. If you are going to push an ET case, than you need to respond to my earlier post (Klicky). I don't see why he would push a Zealos lynch over a Kita one, given my position on Kita. If you can't explain that, don't lynch him.
Scum
I would be concentrating my search for scum on the following
- MajuGarzett (he needs to die)
- Hyaach (he is making no sense and refusing to respond to reasonable posts. I suspect diversionary tactics)
- Papapanda (see my filter)
- Mr. Wiggles (His continued absence is really disturbing. I also don't like his defence of Manason which boils down to he is a newb and his team would have helped him. That could explain Gambit's play but his team certainly didn't help him, or Zealos. To me that reads as a distancing attempt. Trying to look like he is thinking about the game when he couldn't be bothered to contribute.
- Kenpachi (Despite asking him nicely twice, he won't give me his opinion on MZ. Given his insistence Kita is scum, he should think MZ is scum but he won't say it. )
The rest I think are town.
I'll post who I checked right on the hour. I basically flipped a series of coins (RNG) and came up with a check. So there is a 20% chance my target has been framed.
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Sorry guys, boss walked in for a Friday catchup at exactly the wrong time 
I checked Wiggles and he returned Green. With Kita flipping medic we have plenty of info. My sincere apologies Kita for shitting on you early game. We can chat postgame.
Meapak looking good. Wiggles good, oh and I received an invite into Toad's circle, so people pushing Toad as scum, just quit it.
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We are MYLO people so if anyone has any real analysis as to why Maju is not scum, we need to hear it.
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Has anyone watched this show? As in, does anyone know the characters?
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On June 08 2012 08:18 Kenpachi wrote:
wat
I know you don't like writing much but can you give us your thoughts on the final scum team. We are at our final lynch so if you aren't going to do it now, we have to assume you will never do it.
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It won't work. Right now I want to hear from Maju. The silence is deafening from most of this thread.
Wiggles, you just got check so please show some initiative. There is still a chance you're the godfather or were framed. Contributing absolutely dick, is not good enough.
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On June 08 2012 09:02 MajuGarzett wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2012 08:57 Probulous wrote:
It won't work. Right now I want to hear from Maju. The silence is deafening from most of this thread.
Wiggles, you just got check so please show some initiative. There is still a chance you're the godfather or were framed. Contributing absolutely dick, is not good enough. What would you like to hear? I've responded to the cases I've seen. If there's one I missed and you want answered just quote it and I'll respond.
Who is scum and why?
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On June 08 2012 09:20 MajuGarzett wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2012 09:14 Probulous wrote:On June 08 2012 09:02 MajuGarzett wrote:On June 08 2012 08:57 Probulous wrote:
It won't work. Right now I want to hear from Maju. The silence is deafening from most of this thread.
Wiggles, you just got check so please show some initiative. There is still a chance you're the godfather or were framed. Contributing absolutely dick, is not good enough. What would you like to hear? I've responded to the cases I've seen. If there's one I missed and you want answered just quote it and I'll respond. Who is scum and why? I've already given my thoughts on that. They're not much different except for that manason flipped town.
OKL, yeah this guy is scum. The only "cases" he has pushed are two weak ones on Hassy and Papapanda. He dropped the Hassy case after I pointed out the green check and he has not pushed his papapanda read at all. He hasn't added to it, he hasn't brought it up, he hasn't even asked people about it. He clearly doesn't want to be associated with it.
Let's get this over with.
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I agree with Toad's reads. I find Hyaach scummy because he has been focusing on stuff that makes zero sense. Austin at least went back and re-evaluated (he looks pretty townie to me). Kenpachi has actively pushed Kita without explaining the MZ link despite being asked multiple times.
I would suggest Maju->Kenpachi->Hyaach->Papapanda
It doesn't really matter because that is my take on the scum team and they all need to be lynched.
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On June 08 2012 08:41 Probulous wrote:I know you don't like writing much but can you give us your thoughts on the final scum team. We are at our final lynch so if you aren't going to do it now, we have to assume you will never do it.
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I guess that was expected 
Since you have no idea about Maju, can you read his filter give us your thoughts?
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On June 04 2012 10:38 Probulous wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2012 15:13 MajuGarzett wrote:
##Vote:VisceraEyes
MZ's case contained some valid points and that breadcrumb makes absolutely no sense. A lynch of VE would also be much more informative than the lynch of gambit or zealos. Lynches on Kita and Hyaach are to me less well substantiated as well as unlikely to materialise. Maju what is this? You hardly mentioned VE before this post and then suddenly he gets your vote? You don't even wholeheartedly agree with MZ's case rather it just has some valid points? You also give youself a nice excuse not to vote for either Zealos or Gambit. As far as a I can tell from your filter you thought VE was scum because MZ said so and you didn't understand why VE breadcrumbed the way he did. Then comes this post Show nested quote +On May 31 2012 15:41 MajuGarzett wrote:On May 31 2012 15:33 VisceraEyes wrote:
No one is SUPPOSED to glean that I'm a vigilante from it...crumbs are for determining targets posthumously....not for proving claims Maju. On May 31 2012 15:34 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 31 2012 15:26 VisceraEyes wrote:
What do you want to know about it? MZ knew exactly which post I was talking about. If he's town, and if I died overnight, I'm pretty sure he'd have said something about that very post considering how hot to trot I was about Zealos N1. It's not supposed to make sense to everyone Maju, it's only supposed to be picked up by very observant and by people knowing what they're looking for. That's what a breadcrumb is. No I wouldn't have said anything about zealos because it wasn't a breadcrumb. A breadcrumb is where you spell out who you're hitting or the name of your role using the first letters of each post or name your role in a certain manner or something clever like that (that's a tip kids write it down). That way there's no ambiguity when you say "hey guys I'm an ___ and I breadcrumbed here." What you did was post a little symbol which means nothing, allowing you to tell us how to interpret it however you need. I only knew which post you were gonna reference because with the amount of time I've spent reading your filter I knew there wasn't anything remotely close to a real breadcrumb. I and apparently MZ would disagree. I have to sleep now so perhaps you'll be able to prove your innocence by morning. Which you never follow up on. In fact you don't even post before VE flips. You had no real reason to vote for VE whilst there was plenty said about Zealos or Gambit but you conveniently found a way to slip your vote in without making a stand. You don't even call VE mafia, rather his flip would provide more information? Well what information did you glean that you wouldn't have gleaned from an actual mafia flip of Zealos or Gambit? I know some people have looked at Maju but the rest take a look and let me know what you think.
On June 08 2012 09:23 Probulous wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2012 09:20 MajuGarzett wrote:On June 08 2012 09:14 Probulous wrote:On June 08 2012 09:02 MajuGarzett wrote:On June 08 2012 08:57 Probulous wrote:
It won't work. Right now I want to hear from Maju. The silence is deafening from most of this thread.
Wiggles, you just got check so please show some initiative. There is still a chance you're the godfather or were framed. Contributing absolutely dick, is not good enough. What would you like to hear? I've responded to the cases I've seen. If there's one I missed and you want answered just quote it and I'll respond. Who is scum and why? I've already given my thoughts on that. They're not much different except for that manason flipped town. OKL, yeah this guy is scum. The only "cases" he has pushed are two weak ones on Hassy and Papapanda. He dropped the Hassy case after I pointed out the green check and he has not pushed his papapanda read at all. He hasn't added to it, he hasn't brought it up, he hasn't even asked people about it. He clearly doesn't want to be associated with it. Let's get this over with.
My thoughts
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On June 08 2012 11:10 Kenpachi wrote:
awesome. Wiggles is definitely godfather. he has been pseudo useful. completely useless and invisible the entire game.
Thats how i see it. papapanda is likely scum and you guys say maju is so i guess ill agree there. the 3rd scum might be Hyaach.
am i scum? no
Well that lines perfecly with my reads so how about we ignore Wiggles for now because I won't be lynching him today. If you have no reason to believe Maju is town than we lynch him right?
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Well I would be happy if the scum team claimed.
Right now I think it is
Maju, Kenpachi, Hyaach and Papapanda. I think most of town that is not those four would probably agree, so if that is the case the mafia can end it early.
Who disagrees with those four?
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And so begins the long night. I doubt I'll see you guys in the morning. Kill papa, ken and hyaach for me. The order doesn't matter.
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On May 10 2012 01:40 GreYMisT wrote:
Godfather
Appears as whatever he wants to all checks
Roleblocker
Blocks your role
Goon
No powers, Can carry out kills
Rolecop
Is told the name of his targets role (not character name)
Framer
Causes a target player to return the opposite result to DT checks
Austin get off the crazy juice, it is impairing your judgement. There is no pardoner, Toad mentioned that to Kita who dropped the whole thing. You should do the same, or at the very least, read the OP.
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Come on town win me my first game 
GG mafia
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