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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 07 2012 23:30 GMT
#2710
No clue Prob. I'm guessing Zim is a baddie...
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 07 2012 23:50 GMT
#2714
On June 08 2012 08:35 Toadesstern wrote:
You played PYP as well marv, right? You know why I am suggesting it I guess. Thoughts?


I was having a bit of a moment there, I needed that PYP reference ^^

I can't see any particular downsides unless i'm missing something blindingly obvious
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 07 2012 23:57 GMT
#2716
On June 08 2012 08:56 Toadesstern wrote:
Is ET dead? I have him dead in my sheet but don't remember him being dead oO


Pretty sure he's alive dear
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 08 2012 00:30 GMT
#2725
On June 08 2012 09:23 Probulous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2012 09:20 MajuGarzett wrote:
On June 08 2012 09:14 Probulous wrote:
On June 08 2012 09:02 MajuGarzett wrote:
On June 08 2012 08:57 Probulous wrote:
It won't work. Right now I want to hear from Maju. The silence is deafening from most of this thread.

Wiggles, you just got check so please show some initiative. There is still a chance you're the godfather or were framed. Contributing absolutely dick, is not good enough.

What would you like to hear?

I've responded to the cases I've seen. If there's one I missed and you want answered just quote it and I'll respond.


Who is scum and why?

I've already given my thoughts on that. They're not much different except for that manason flipped town.


OKL, yeah this guy is scum. The only "cases" he has pushed are two weak ones on Hassy and Papapanda. He dropped the Hassy case after I pointed out the green check and he has not pushed his papapanda read at all. He hasn't added to it, he hasn't brought it up, he hasn't even asked people about it. He clearly doesn't want to be associated with it.

Let's get this over with.


Agreed. Gonna make my head hurt tomorrow trying to extract info from this kita business. I'm convinced papa is scum too of course. We need to not waste this whole day just waiting for Maju to flip.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 08 2012 00:39 GMT
#2727
On June 08 2012 09:34 Toadesstern wrote:
well the 4th guy kinda depends on whats happening


You're sure on Hyaach then?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 08 2012 00:49 GMT
#2729
Alright. I had a tentative town-read on him earlier in the game, but the way he presented his conspiracy theory and pushed it was horrible. I'll have a good look at him tomorrow too.

It seems a weird agenda for scum to push. kita flipping leads to wifom territory - so the question is if he used talking about kita/mz ad nauseum as a cover not to do other scumhunting.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 08 2012 00:54 GMT
#2730
As a general heads-up - I'm out of town Friday evening through to Sunday evening. I should have internet at various stages so it's not too bad, but I'll definitely be net-less for lynch-time Saturday evening. Thankfully our lynch looks pretty locked in at this stage
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 08 2012 10:31 GMT
#2761
On June 08 2012 10:15 Probulous wrote:
I agree with Toad's reads. I find Hyaach scummy because he has been focusing on stuff that makes zero sense. Austin at least went back and re-evaluated (he looks pretty townie to me). Kenpachi has actively pushed Kita without explaining the MZ link despite being asked multiple times.

I would suggest Maju->Kenpachi->Hyaach->Papapanda

It doesn't really matter because that is my take on the scum team and they all need to be lynched.


Yeah, I went over Hyaach today and I found where my soft town-read on him came from - plenty of his page 1 seems pretty decent. Unfortunately he also has a page 2 and a page 3. These pages are filled with aggressively pushed conspiracies (seemingly using the probably more well-meaning austin as a foil), casting suspicion around needlessly. This has also led to him shitting up the thread by arguing, using the same rehashed points, with people like MZ/Toad over and over.

It's the last bit that makes it worse. Basically he ignores whatever people are talking about to him to just continue making the same posts. Toad isn't always the clearest dude around to me, but it got to the point where even I was like, for fuck's sake, he's said multiple times who he masoned, when and why he said it. Not reading thread.

My feeling last night that this was a cover for not doing actual scumhunting is confirmed. It's also a pretty strong mafia heuristic that scum start off the game usefully enough, but tail off in their usefulness/relevance as the game goes on, and that's also the case here.

Scum.

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

This leaves scum #4. Logic tells me it should be Kenpachi. He obstinately pushes kitaman over and over. He never addresses how MZ fits into the kitaman-sure-fire-scum scenario. He basically doesn't read the fucking thread. He calls Wiggles useless but he's been exactly the same - his blind-pushing of kita meant he did nothing else for days. I just can't make myself be as sure as I want about it though :/ He called out papapanda super early and I agree completely with it. I just can't quite pick out how important it is. And it's Kenpachi.

Wiggles has the green check. ET's right though, the chance he was framed or godfather is high enough that it can't and shouldn't be blindly accepted. I defended Wiggles on Liar meta earlier, but it's like we're always waiting for him to post significantly, but when he does post, it leaves you wanting more. Somewhat speculatively, it seems like his defence of Manason could have come from the privileged position of prior knowledge of his alignment.

Help meeeeee
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 08 2012 11:24 GMT
#2763
On June 08 2012 19:53 Hyaach wrote:
Yes Im implying if Maju flips scum wiggles is town.

and i know my case on MZ/Kita is not played out well but Toad refusing to answer me his mason target got me suspicious of his alignment. Note I asked on day 2. I asked on day 3. He answer only on day 4 when both have already died.

Then Austinmcc came up with the theory and it looked like it clicked with my suspicions of toad so i went ahead with the theory and pushing it hard. If I was mafia, Not pushing that case would have easily allowed me to survive today where it is lylo.

Disregarding my kita/mz case, do you have a scum read on me?


If I disregarded this, you wouldn't have posted in a week, that's the point... everything from the way you pushed it, didn't read replies, repeated yourself is scummy.

Who do YOU think are scum then?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 08 2012 11:48 GMT
#2766
On June 08 2012 20:43 Hyaach wrote:
That's true too haha.


Show nested quote +
On June 08 2012 02:06 Hyaach wrote:
Before I go to bed, i was initially suspicious of Wiggles for his absence and just popping in at the right time jump on the ship that has just sailed off. But his case on Maju over Manason made me thought different. His town to me right now

Papapanda has no stance to take. He FoS me and phagg over Zealos to create a distraction. Granted we were all lurking but why us over Zealos when the attention on Zealos was heating up? And we know phagg and zealos flipped out to be.
his vig proofing plan is flawed. Why waste a block at night to confirm a vig? just shoot the scummiest person alived.

Then he soft-defending wiggles against SS.
VE's mess came up and he scream to vote wiggles
what Papa does 24 hour later after soft defending wiggles?
he spread a little shadow over wiggles but never voted for him but for VE?
Why? so he can backtrack if somehow VE crawled himself out of the mess and attention went on wiggles?

On June 01 2012 06:43 papapanda wrote:
Both you and I have read MZ's cases, as well as other posts, can we agree that his points are valid?
However as I was reading it, I was, using your term, on the fence for VE's lynch.
What I didn't like was how he responded to the pressure. He claimed vig, one the the toughest role to prove at this stage of the game. Ofcourse it's possible he is vig, and what ticked for me was what he said about if he was the mafia leader, the mafia would try more to save him...(can't find the post, but I'm pretty certain that I read it today). Wifom doesn't work as defenses...(learned that the hard way last game, marvellosity;p).
Anyhow, my point is I find VE scummy and people trying to spread the vote are also worth looking at(hi kenpachi).


and yet he was trying to spread it just minutes ago.
Scum just goes with the flow and often does not have a train of thought.

After that it was bandwagons and more rope throwing so he could back track if need be.

[B]On June 06 2012 15:21 papapanda wrote:
-snipped-
Regarding current vote:
Consider my vote on kita right now. I like the plan to switch to votes mana if no other medic claim.


basically his fine with whoever as long as its not him.



Papa and Maju. Rather Lynch Papa first. about the last two.
[b]I have no idea but I would not cross hassybaby out from the suspect list.
People had been urging him to post thus framing him everynight wouldn't seem like a bad thing or he could be GF


More didn't read thread. He's dead. Scum.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 08 2012 11:49 GMT
#2767
EBWOP: ugh formatting. Meant to have bold on the Hassy line.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 08 2012 11:52 GMT
#2770
Reading the first page isn't reading the thread. And even if you were reading the first page observantly you would have noticed Night 4 kills are not there.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 08 2012 12:08 GMT
#2778
On June 08 2012 21:06 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2012 21:05 Toadesstern wrote:
On June 08 2012 20:59 Hyaach wrote:
Toad you do know hassy is dead already too right?
can i use marvellosity's not reading the thread on you then?

I know he's dead. That's the point.

1) FoS'ing hassy is np because there's other people who said he's looking weird
2) It's a nulltell but people might think it's a "not-mafia"-tell because he died after you fos'ed him
3) Fosing him is a nulltell. Not fusing him is a nulltell. Saying he'll die is a mafia tell

There's some options you can choose and you went with one that tells us nothing about your alignment. Just tell me why mafia would NOT want to fos hassy in your situation? Something incredible bad that could happen out of fossing hassy while shooting him?

EBWOP


Toad, he FoS Hassy AFTER hassy died
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 08 2012 12:09 GMT
#2779
EBWOP: as in, further up this page
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 09 2012 16:34 GMT
#2821
On June 09 2012 17:07 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
guys I would like us to lynch papanda today.


This is random. Care to explain?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 10 2012 10:48 GMT
#2853
Probey... he's the deputy mayor, so he can pardon a lynch. Silly husband ^^
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 10 2012 21:07 GMT
#2877
I'm pretty uncomfortable with where the thread is at currently :/
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 10 2012 23:37 GMT
#2891
Longass 2 minutes o.o
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 10 2012 23:47 GMT
#2897
On June 11 2012 08:45 Toadesstern wrote:
We need every single out of our 5 townies to vote this guy. If one townie votes someone else we lose the game!
##vote papapanda


I had papapanda and Hyaach as the two I wanted to lynch today, with papapanda first choice, so:

##Vote: papapanda
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 11 2012 00:06 GMT
#2901
Amazing post. If we lynch papa and then hyaach and Wiggles is still alive at that point, he would almost 100% be the last scum, because if he's town then scum can't leave alive a green-checked guy with two votes.
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