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On June 01 2012 06:54 Hassybaby wrote: My main reasoning is that this is exactly how VE played in LI. But there are doubts, because basically no one else has agreed with me. Hell the only one I see who agrees with that point is Toad.
Bugs' cavalier vote is bothering me as well, as is MZ's zealous tunneling. But it'd be stupid to NOT lynch VE.....
As opposed to MTM or LIII where he was also lynched after claiming blue you mean? Why are you more convinced by LI than these? Why would it be stupid not to lynch him?
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Alright ET, that's fair enough. You can articulate why you are voting him where so few apparently can.
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On June 01 2012 07:12 papapanda wrote: VE has been contradicting himself through the game. The thing about playing completely different playstyle, day-game and night-game, is just bullocks. VE's vote-jumping I dislike. VE's responses are inappropriate as a town.
Marv, May I ask you what part of the case you find invalid?
I think MZ has created a narrative and fit posts to it. VE is as per usual all over the place but I don't currently see the scum agenda that MZ claims is obviously there.
There are even contradictions in things other people have said. Some people have said he was too nice and cooperative, while others have said he's shitting up the thread.
The claim is a null.
I can't find anything that convinces me VE should be scum rather than town. For reference, I went back and read Radfield's case on VE in WoF. The real 'a-ha!' moment in that case was where he picked up VE on his feigned surprise that MrZentor didn't get night-killed. There has been no tipping moment like that for me here.
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On June 01 2012 07:21 VisceraEyes wrote: With 29 votes available would it not be 15 votes to lynch? ^^
2 dead, foru and sinensis
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That's basically where I'm at too with who we should be lynching into.
Everyone was happy to lynch Zealos before
Everyone said "but wait! he said he had exams, let's see if he comes up with anything"
He did not, he made more wishy washy crap without contributing
No-one cares
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EBWOP: the above was at Probulous
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On June 01 2012 07:30 strongandbig wrote: Ugh. Marv, I'm feeling again like I did before we lynched you in wof. Why am I so bad at this game?
Tell me this - if VE gets roleblocked tonight then won't we just waste all of day 3 on the same crap if we no lynch today?
Ugh, MZ's case is covincing but my gut is like "no bro don't do it!"
strongandbig, you're gonna have to make the decision you think is right. Will we go through this tomorrow is not really a valid thought process for deciding on whether someone is scum today, though.
Did you vote with me on Hiro on gut?
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On June 01 2012 07:31 Probulous wrote:
Which of us is the lady?
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That not-voted list looks quite juicy
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On June 01 2012 07:44 Probulous wrote:
Mattchew is still on SnB?
I believe so, he was in our camp re lynching VE
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On June 01 2012 08:05 supersoft wrote: OH YEAH LOOK AT THIS! WHO WAS RIGHT? WHO WAS?
shut up, mr "VE is 90% scum"
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On June 01 2012 08:17 jaj22 wrote: Apparently I need to use more gut and less brain.
I wanna kill BH for lurking the run-up and then trying to cause a no-lynch. I wanna kill Mattchew for leaving his vote somewhere useless and then showing up immediately after the deadline.
Yeah, I wanna look at BH as well.
Don't understand the Mattchew thing so much, he didn't want to vote for VE and it didn't really matter so much where else his vote was.
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On June 01 2012 08:16 Probulous wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2012 07:46 supersoft wrote: "Supersoft, what is deal? You hardly post anything and then when you do it is a stupid plan that is bound to fail. Wiggles, get your fat ass in here because as mayor you should have a spine. MZ, get your head out of your ass and think for a second about what VE would do if he was town. "
ah shut up scum! really. Show nested quote +On June 01 2012 08:03 supersoft wrote: WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU KIDDING ME? A NO LYNCH? FUCK I AM LATE!!
You were here 14 minutes before the deadline and then three minutes after. Explain.
Also this MUST NOT get buried.
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On June 01 2012 08:58 Blazinghand wrote: Look at me? Lol you should be thanking me for trying to avert a mislynch. G32 should be #1 scum on everyone's list.
Where were you for the whole evening?
Thanking you for trying to avert a mislynch THAT YOU WERE ON?
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On June 01 2012 09:14 EchelonTee wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2012 09:09 Blazinghand wrote: Dude i didnt thinl VE was town stop putting words on my mouth. But G32 CLAIMED scum tp the tgread. I havent been posting much because im at work and doing thiw cia phone Ok, maybe its cuz ur on your phone, but I KNOW you didn't say you thought VE is town. That's the whole point of our little disagreement. It doesn't make any sense for you to unvote VE UNLESS you think is town. But w.e, it's nbd I suppose. If you were scum, you wouldn't randomly unvote VE; there's no point to. You'd want the vig dead.
I would totally buy this, except in LIII scum Risen vote-switched twice between two townies right on deadline and changed who was lynched. So it's not unprecedented.
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EBWOP: in other words, the reason that NO SCUM WOULD EVER DO THIS can actually be a reason for scum to do this.
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On June 01 2012 09:17 EchelonTee wrote: It's not unprecendented I admit, but why would he vote switch away from a vig? A vig who happens to be VE? It ties up a RB slot for the scum team, and despite all the flack we give him, it's still VE. He's gone through a rough spot lately, but I've still seen games where he wrecks scum. A scum team wants VE dead, whether through mislynch or night shot.
Yes, you're probably right. It just smells to me. And BH is right after all, Gambit looks absolutely atrocious at the moment.
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On June 01 2012 09:18 EchelonTee wrote: I'm not calling BH confirmed town; I'm saying that this unvote shenanigans isn't a scumtell.
Now tell me what you think of Jaj22.
I don't think I'm quite seeing in that post whatever you're seeing.
jaj has basically been a soft town-read for me all game. We've obsQTed quite a few games together and he basically 'plays' similarly to those.
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