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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
May 31 2012 01:01 GMT
#1521
I assumed the lyncher would know who their target was. It would be incredibly difficult to have to lynch a random role like "Gaz", which would come mostly down to luck.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
May 31 2012 01:05 GMT
#1523
On May 31 2012 10:02 VisceraEyes wrote:
EBWOP: Preview is my friend!

Show nested quote +
On May 28 2012 15:23 kitaman27 wrote:
lol I random voted Hyaach with the hope that he would post.


So...he's posted Kita. What do you think? Good lynch candidate? Yeah? No?


I think he is in a pool of about 10 players who have no interest in playing this game. If we're lynching lurkers then fine, but with his limited number of posts I can say to have an opinion one way or the other.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
May 31 2012 02:21 GMT
#1538
On May 31 2012 11:14 VisceraEyes wrote:
I can't tell you why Kita does what Kita does. I find it suspicious because it was not relevant to finding scum at all. Like, almost ALL of the discussion about keeping the lyncher out of office was LITERALLY USELESS to finding scum, and that doesn't seem like townie Kita.

Not to mention the fact that scum can third-party hunt in lieu of scumhunt and guess what: IT LOOKS LIKE THEY'RE CONTRIBUTING!!


It was relevant because it increased the chances of keeping an anti-town player out of office. You act as if I spammed up the thread with lyncher discussion. I only mentioned it a couple of times. Electing toad was the main policy I pushed.

Prob, why are you asking VE his opinion about this topic? Are you trying to fuel the flames?
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
May 31 2012 02:35 GMT
#1545
Your post doesn't have a conclusion prob. I assumed lynchers know their target because it would be an imbalanced role otherwise. I've never played in a game where a player's win condition is to lynch an unknown target.

I find the following players scummy and have listed them in the preference of lynching order.
VisceraEyes: case stated earlier
sToFu: Apologetic, lacks town tells
Mr. Wiggles: Band-wagoning, play has completely dropped off as promising to be a leader
strongandbig: stated ealier
Hassybaby: Active lurker. Refusing to contribute even after people have complained about his apathy.

I find the following having contributed little to nothing in the thread. I'd like each of them to comment about the above five names or bring up something meaningful to show that they care about showing that they are town. Otherwise, they should all be considered for vig shots.

Manason
GambitX32
Cwave
Hassybaby
Kenpachi
phagga
Hyaach
sToFu
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
May 31 2012 02:36 GMT
#1547
On May 31 2012 11:31 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2012 11:22 Probulous wrote:
On May 31 2012 11:16 VisceraEyes wrote:
On May 31 2012 11:14 VisceraEyes wrote:
I can't tell you why Kita does what Kita does. I find it suspicious because it was not relevant to finding scum at all. Like, almost ALL of the discussion about keeping the lyncher out of office was LITERALLY USELESS to finding scum, and that doesn't seem like townie Kita.

Not to mention the fact that scum can third-party hunt in lieu of scumhunt and guess what: IT LOOKS LIKE THEY'RE CONTRIBUTING!!


Case in point: Forumite! Forumite was third-party, and all he had to do was scumhunt to win the game die. Like, he looked so townie by trying to find Zim (who obviously I'm presuming is scum) that combined with the fact that he's a vet made him a target over, say, soon-to-be-"mod-confirmed"*-town-Toad.


So you think Kita is third party?

My running theory is that Kita is mafia who wanted to divert town and discredit Toad. When that was shot down he changed tack and tried to discredit you. The problem I have is that he raised the lyncher thing first. It's like

fearmongering -> discredit Toad -> discredit VE

But that means his whole motivation for the lyncher obsession was to create confusion?


It's possible of course, but I'm actually with you - I'd say Kita is more likely scum than third party. The Iggins thing was a joke because he mentioned Gaz, literally my favorite character in any show ever made.

"But that means his whole motivation for the lyncher obsession was to create confusion?"

Possibly...but I think it's probably more sinister than that if Kita is scum.

Like, kita's town play is pretty easy to distinguish...he's active, he pushes his reads and he questions people to get those reads. All he's done this game was OMGUS all over my face, which is absolutely NOT the kind of play I expect of town Kita. Not at all. Town Toad definitely. Town VE absolutely. Not Town Kita.


So I'm back to being scum now that someone else has jumped on board? What happened to not being able to make a case and wanting to work with me as town? You're all over the place.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
May 31 2012 03:29 GMT
#1558
On May 27 2012 18:22 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
If you want to lynch someone, I expect you to actually come up with reasons why it's best to do so, and not just blatant sheeping.


On May 31 2012 03:01 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
Instead, I think we should go with lynching Gambit today. The case on him has already been made, and it's pretty solid based on the information we have.


In your own words Wiggles, could you explain to me why Gambit is a better lynch than the alternatives? Also, why the drop-off in activity since your election?
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
May 31 2012 03:40 GMT
#1567
On May 31 2012 12:35 Manason wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2012 11:35 kitaman27 wrote:
Your post doesn't have a conclusion prob. I assumed lynchers know their target because it would be an imbalanced role otherwise. I've never played in a game where a player's win condition is to lynch an unknown target.

I find the following players scummy and have listed them in the preference of lynching order.
VisceraEyes: case stated earlier
sToFu: Apologetic, lacks town tells
Mr. Wiggles: Band-wagoning, play has completely dropped off as promising to be a leader
strongandbig: stated ealier
Hassybaby: Active lurker. Refusing to contribute even after people have complained about his apathy.

I find the following having contributed little to nothing in the thread. I'd like each of them to comment about the above five names or bring up something meaningful to show that they care about showing that they are town. Otherwise, they should all be considered for vig shots.

Manason
GambitX32
Cwave
Hassybaby
Kenpachi
phagga
Hyaach
sToFu


As you wish. Also note that I have previously stated I'm for the lynching of Kita or Zealous. So don't come at me and say that I'm just mad that your calling for a vig shot.

VisceraEyes: He's for lynching Kita, so I want to work with him for now.
sToFu: I don't think he's scum.
Mr. Wiggles: I voted for him because I trusted his judgment. Nothing I've seen so far has led me to not trust my intial insticts.
strongandbig: at some points I've thought he's scum, other times town. To be honest I have no opinion at the moment.
Hassybaby: I'm not for lynching the lurkers at the moment as we have better targets that are active. Like Kita and Zealous.


You stated that you wish to pressure me with your vote, but have not once explained your reasoning for voting me. Please provide a case (and I hope its more detailed than your views of those five)
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
May 31 2012 03:42 GMT
#1569
On May 31 2012 12:39 wherebugsgo wrote:
(and I think kita just ninja voted, or at least it's a ninja vote till he explains it here)


It's not a ninja vote when I've written a full case and explained my intentions several times. I figured I'd give VE something else to spam about :p
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
May 31 2012 03:44 GMT
#1571
You have 220 posts VE (12+ pages of filter). If you truly are town, please try to consolidate. Thanks!
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
May 31 2012 03:52 GMT
#1579
On May 31 2012 12:48 Manason wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2012 12:40 kitaman27 wrote:
On May 31 2012 12:35 Manason wrote:
On May 31 2012 11:35 kitaman27 wrote:
Your post doesn't have a conclusion prob. I assumed lynchers know their target because it would be an imbalanced role otherwise. I've never played in a game where a player's win condition is to lynch an unknown target.

I find the following players scummy and have listed them in the preference of lynching order.
VisceraEyes: case stated earlier
sToFu: Apologetic, lacks town tells
Mr. Wiggles: Band-wagoning, play has completely dropped off as promising to be a leader
strongandbig: stated ealier
Hassybaby: Active lurker. Refusing to contribute even after people have complained about his apathy.

I find the following having contributed little to nothing in the thread. I'd like each of them to comment about the above five names or bring up something meaningful to show that they care about showing that they are town. Otherwise, they should all be considered for vig shots.

Manason
GambitX32
Cwave
Hassybaby
Kenpachi
phagga
Hyaach
sToFu


As you wish. Also note that I have previously stated I'm for the lynching of Kita or Zealous. So don't come at me and say that I'm just mad that your calling for a vig shot.

VisceraEyes: He's for lynching Kita, so I want to work with him for now.
sToFu: I don't think he's scum.
Mr. Wiggles: I voted for him because I trusted his judgment. Nothing I've seen so far has led me to not trust my intial insticts.
strongandbig: at some points I've thought he's scum, other times town. To be honest I have no opinion at the moment.
Hassybaby: I'm not for lynching the lurkers at the moment as we have better targets that are active. Like Kita and Zealous.


You stated that you wish to pressure me with your vote, but have not once explained your reasoning for voting me. Please provide a case (and I hope its more detailed than your views of those five)



To be completely honest, I have no reasoning as to why I think your scum other than intuition, and I want you to defend yourself as it will either make me change my mind about voting you or provide more information. My enemy is scum, if your town please, convince me.


You want me to defend myself from the fact that your intuition tells you that I am scum? You've given me no case to respond to.

Does that mean your strongest scum read is based on a gut feeling? Nobody else has done anything this game that you actually find scummy?
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
May 31 2012 05:05 GMT
#1603
Just a reminder to everyone, this game is majority lynch. If you're not on a legitimate candidate or don't have plans to check back to make sure you're on a legitimate candidate, then I will be very sad

Also, ##Vote VE
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
May 31 2012 05:44 GMT
#1618
On May 31 2012 14:41 VisceraEyes wrote:
I don't care if you're angry. I post a lot. Sue me.

I'm town, I'm a vig and you're all trying to kill me.

What now guys? What now? Where do we go from here? I'm sorry you disagree with my playstyle. I am. But this is how I play.

It appears Palmar was right after all. I really am just a displeasure to play with. *sigh*


You're always a pleasure to play with VE <3

So you're a vig who shot night one, but didn't call your shot?
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
May 31 2012 05:51 GMT
#1625
On May 31 2012 14:48 VisceraEyes wrote:
¡I breadcrumbed it!


If you vig'd him at night and was roleblocked, why am I you're primary lynch target going into day two? Wouldn't it make more sense for your target to be the guy you just tried to kill?
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
May 31 2012 06:01 GMT
#1640
On May 31 2012 14:49 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
lol VE's not a vigi. Here's how setups like this work, in Annul's harry potter game the entire town essentially claimed and outed the mafia because the mafia had no idea what roles were in the game and accidentally claimed roles that townies had.


Ollivander + Pomfrey OP
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
May 31 2012 19:45 GMT
#1808
On June 01 2012 04:41 VisceraEyes wrote:
And here's something to factor in. Scum don't know if I'm scum or SK any more than town does...so chances are, I'm going to eat a bullet. Know why? Cause I'm beast-mode SK. Ask fucking anyone.


Are you able to recruit me again? I'd totally team up with you if that were the case.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
May 31 2012 22:21 GMT
#1900
On June 01 2012 07:13 Probulous wrote:
Note how Kita has dissapeared and let others do his bidding. Remember he was the one that started this whole thing with his base case on VE. I don't like this wagon, there is no coutner push, no other option, nothing. It is simply the loudest players bullying through their choice of target.


I was the first person to bring up a case against him. How is that letting others do my bidding? Spending time convincing VE that he is scum isn't going to solve anything. I haven't disappeared. If you'd like a long list of individuals who have disappeared, I'd be more than happy to direct you their way.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
May 31 2012 22:56 GMT
#1955
bahahaha you dirty scum.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
May 31 2012 22:58 GMT
#1964
On June 01 2012 07:57 Blazinghand wrote:
guys, hurry the dicks up and vote G32


You're going to get 15 votes in the next 3 minutes? Or do you just want a no-lynch so we can go through this again tomorrow?
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
May 31 2012 23:07 GMT
#1987
Dang it VE, you distracted me from pushing my true target, Zealos!
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
June 01 2012 02:07 GMT
#2070
You guys can't agree with the case against VE and then call me scum when he flips town. If prior to VE's flip, you all agree that his case against me is awful, then that doesn't make the case suddenly valid after the flip. It was an unfortunate case of town vs town. I'll reread and give my thoughts tomorrow afternoon.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
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