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kitaman27

United States9245 Posts

May 29 2012 20:28 GMT

#886

On May 30 2012 05:27 Forumite wrote:

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EBWOP:
I´m fine with you NOT calling it, if your target dies then it doesn´t matter if you call it or not.

I'd feel much more comfortable if you announced it before the night hits were revealed.

kitaman27

United States9245 Posts

May 30 2012 04:33 GMT

#1177

The first player we should consider today is VisceraEyes. The entire day one cycle, VE has actively pushed a mafia agenda. He went out of his way to ensure that Toad, essentially a confirmed non-scum, would not be elected. He discredited Toad's canidacy using suspect logic and refused to budge on an issue that clearly was beneficial to town. VE explains that he opposed Toad being elected due to the ability of others to influence his decision making. Toad is not a player so incompetant that the risk of him being influenced via pms outweighs the ability to elect a non-scum into office. Firstly, the mayoral lynch took place before the mason power would be activated so this is not an issue. Secondly, Toad promised to not use his lynching power upon election. This is the word from a player who is almost certainly not mafia. VE is so opposed to the idea of Toad being elected, that he would rather believe that Toad is lying about his intentions. VE insists that he wants a town in office, but not Toad, as there are several other townies in the game. There is one problem with this statement, however. Toad is the only player who has role claimed. Rather than take advantage of this opportunity, he would rather risk the election of an unknown due to an irrelevant concern about manipulation of an ability he has promised not to use.

On May 28 2012 15:20 VisceraEyes wrote:
I mean, I spelled it out myself.

Okay, so I like Kita/Sinensis for scum so far...which is actually kinda disturbing, what do you think about 2 scum pretty much just claiming in thread like that?

The confidence coming from this post is not townlike. At this point, the only policies I have pushed is electing a candidate who hasn't announced their intentions for running for mayor and to elect Toad as pardoner. Sinensis has only pushed a policy lynch, which may have been a poor idea, but wasn't inherantly scummy. In response, makes a blanket statement about us claiming scum. Throughout the thread, VE has been asking players their opinion of other players, but has yet to produce a valid case against a player. He announces that I would be his prefered lynch, yet refuses to push it due to lack of support. If he was willing to push me yesterday, why back off today? You don't ignore your primary scum suspect because everyone else thinks he is town, you convince them with a compelling case. I was attacked primarily for my support of Toad, yet now that Toad has been confirmed as a mason, his opinion of me has not changed?

Hopefully more to come in a bit.

kitaman27

United States9245 Posts

May 30 2012 04:47 GMT

#1184

On May 30 2012 13:35 wherebugsgo wrote:
also I have completed reading the thread. I have some other sneaking suspicions but I won't let them go for now, because there is far too much on the table already. There's no need to try and out the entire scumteam right now when we can only kill one of them and not 6.

You can't sub into a game and then refuse to share your reads.

kitaman27

United States9245 Posts

May 30 2012 05:32 GMT

#1215

On May 30 2012 13:55 Probulous wrote:

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Given that Kita has gone after you it would be great if you could summarise your case against him. His play to me is double-sided. I can't understand the motivation behind the Lyncher thing but everything else he has done looks townie.

Hmm, you don't understand why I wouldn't want a lyncher elected?

On May 30 2012 14:06 Probulous wrote:

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I noticed this too Kita but how does it make him scum? The role is pretty damn useless as scum would be sacrificing one of their own if they used it. Toad however is difficult to read and is not beyond doing things that look incredibly scummy. I can understand a certain trepidation in putting him into office. It is not like VE was advocating putting scum into the role. As you say Toad could be confirmed the next day and so it would make sense to use that as leverage to ensure scum don't get the role but it seems VE just wasn't comfortable with Toad being in a position of power. Why is that scum motivated and not a paranoid townie?

The role isn't useless as scum because a strong player can argue for the use of a pardon and the role kills us at lylo. As far as I can see, there was nothing to be paranoid about. Toad put himself in a situation where his word could be trusted and he gave his word that he wouldn't use the pardoner role. A paranoid townie is the one who doesn't pass on the opportunity to elect toad into office, because the other candidates may be scum.

On May 30 2012 13:49 wherebugsgo wrote:

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this is funny, kita.

I shared 3 of my reads. I'm not about to share my town reads (that aren't meapak) nor the rest of my reads. Though, I suppose if you're attacking me right now it means you've caught onto something.

Good for you, it's nice to know scum are scared of me.

I just saw your post, wondering why you dedicate a post to telling us that you had suspicions, but weren't going to share them, without fully catching up on the thread. My appologies.

kitaman27

United States9245 Posts

May 30 2012 05:55 GMT

#1222

Not much substance to this post, but here are my thoughts for alternative candidates.

Hassybaby has not shared his opinion on a single player this game. I'd like to request a large post from him within the next 24 hours or he should be strongly considered as a vig target tommorrow night. Zealos has disappeared. As a lynch candidate, he needs to be extremely active today if he hopes to stay out of trouble. marvellosity's filter is far too safe for my liking.

GambitX32's two posts look as if he knew he would be expected to share his opinion, but had nothing to say, so he just made a few generic statements about a bunch of players. I don't see anything of value that his post adds to the thread.

I'm unwilling to trust Wiggles, but I'm unable to put together anything close to a valid case against him. With myself and Meapak being town, it doesn't bode well for him for him from a balance perspective, although VE could also serve as the scum leader.

S&B and Manason are still sketchy. I want a more developed case from each of them that adds something to the thread.

kitaman27

United States9245 Posts

May 30 2012 05:56 GMT

#1224

On May 30 2012 14:43 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Today we should be lynching kitaman, I'll write a nice little something up in a bit as to why.

Or you could save your time and focus your efforts elsewhere.

kitaman27

United States9245 Posts

May 30 2012 06:01 GMT

#1230

On May 30 2012 14:59 Probulous wrote:

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What does this mean? Are they scum or dumb town?

They are both players that I see as more scummy than towny.

kitaman27

United States9245 Posts

May 30 2012 06:21 GMT

#1237

sToFu has been playing pretty appologetic thus far.

kitaman27

United States9245 Posts

May 30 2012 16:17 GMT

#1306

On May 31 2012 01:14 marvellosity wrote:
Your point is "balance lol"

I'm not lynching on that.

I'm convinced.

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kitaman27

United States9245 Posts

May 30 2012 16:29 GMT

#1309

On May 31 2012 01:10 Toadesstern wrote:
anyways, I need several people to get in here before starting to explain stuff so I'm a little afk (I could tell you what I'm doing but some weird guy would probably come out of nowhere telling me that's some weird breadcrumb)

BREADCRUMB?!

Are you claiming Professor Membrane, the creator of supertoast?!

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kitaman27

United States9245 Posts

May 30 2012 16:31 GMT

#1310

Also, none of the people I was hoping to hear from last night have posted. I'm a sad Kita

kitaman27

United States9245 Posts

May 30 2012 16:51 GMT

#1320

On May 31 2012 01:38 VisceraEyes wrote:
Kita are you town?

I mean, obviously I have doubts...but I was unable to make a cohesive case against you last night when I tried. I think you're playing a pretty manipulative game, but not necessarily scummy after trying to build a case. I'm willing to work with you if you're town.

I wanted to work together VE! I really did! But then you shunned logic and focused on your nonsense manipulation arguement to the point where you could no longer be included in our order! Don't blame us for your failings VE.

I counted 17 instances in your filter where you found me suspicious, wanted me lynched, or suggested that I should be shot. My policy has not changed. The only change is that I have written a case against you and Meapak no longer suspects me. So tell me, what has changed that made you go from the point of stating that I "claimed scum in the thread" to being town. You say you cannot build a case against me, but that did not stop you from pushing for my death the previous cycle. What gives?

Furthermore, why were you unwilling to push a case on me without Meapak's support? If I was truly your number one suspect, why does he have to push the lynch on me, rather than yourself?

kitaman27

United States9245 Posts

May 30 2012 17:14 GMT

#1323

On May 31 2012 02:06 VisceraEyes wrote:
Because like you I need vet support to ly.ch a vet. Nothing strange about that.

No, from your first post you've made it clear that I'm not welcome in your order. Even now you speak in the past tense...indicating that even if it wear possible, the time is passed.

It doesn't matter now. You don't want me to work with you even though by your estimation I'm skilled enough to "lead the scumteam"...which I find maddening.

I hope your.conviction is as strong as your.suspicion. I'm town and I won't be just LETTING you lynch me.

You didn't address my main concerns

On May 31 2012 01:51 kitaman27 wrote:
I counted 17 instances in your filter where you found me suspicious, wanted me lynched, or suggested that I should be shot. My policy has not changed. The only change is that I have written a case against you and Meapak no longer suspects me. So tell me, what has changed that made you go from the point of stating that I "claimed scum in the thread" to being town. You say you cannot build a case against me, but that did not stop you from pushing for my death the previous cycle. What gives?

kitaman27

United States9245 Posts

May 30 2012 17:27 GMT

#1325

I SEE YOU PLAYING DOTA 2 HASSYBABY!

DON'T THINK YOU CAN HIDE FROM US.

kitaman27

United States9245 Posts

May 30 2012 18:18 GMT

#1344

On May 30 2012 14:31 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
Right now I'm trying to determine who I think is scummiest/want to lynch from kitaman/supersoft/zealos/gambit.

How did you come to decide it should be gambit from that list?

kitaman27

United States9245 Posts

May 30 2012 22:12 GMT

#1449

Meapak, I came to the exact same conclusion. Independently!!!

kitaman27

United States9245 Posts

May 30 2012 23:36 GMT

#1481

I hate it when my scum suspects ask townie questions of the host. So cruel -_-

kitaman27

United States9245 Posts

May 30 2012 23:38 GMT

#1482

Do you have any intentions of posting again this cycle Manason?

kitaman27

United States9245 Posts

May 31 2012 00:04 GMT

#1504

Who do you think are the veteran players on the scum team VE?

Wiggles?

kitaman27

United States9245 Posts

May 31 2012 00:49 GMT

#1516

On May 31 2012 09:46 VisceraEyes wrote:
Something to note Probulous is the fact that Kitaman promised to take a closer look at Hyaach specifically BECAUSE he chose him as his random candidate. I wonder what the fruits of those observations has been.

##Unvote: Zealos
##Vote: Hyaach

lol now you're just making stuff up -_-

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