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Probulous
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3894 Posts
June 17 2012 02:14 GMT
#3064
On June 17 2012 09:18 gonzaw wrote:
lol well played marv


I feel bad for Prob; your anticipated win will have to wait


GGGGAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Marv

I hate you guys

To Kita and super

For those unaware, I am now officially, 0 for 6. It will come, and when it does, it will be glorious.
"Dude has some really interesting midgame switches that I wouldn't have expected. "I violated your house" into "HIHO THE DAIRY OH!" really threw me. You don't usually expect children's poetry harass as a follow up " - AmericanUmlaut
Probulous
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3894 Posts
June 17 2012 02:17 GMT
#3065
MARV
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"Dude has some really interesting midgame switches that I wouldn't have expected. "I violated your house" into "HIHO THE DAIRY OH!" really threw me. You don't usually expect children's poetry harass as a follow up " - AmericanUmlaut
Probulous
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3894 Posts
June 17 2012 02:19 GMT
#3067
On June 17 2012 11:18 GMarshal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2012 11:14 Probulous wrote:
On June 17 2012 09:18 gonzaw wrote:
lol well played marv


I feel bad for Prob; your anticipated win will have to wait


For those unaware, I am now officially, 0 for 6. It will come, and when it does, it will be glorious.

So basically, if Probulous is in your scumteam GG. :-P



"Dude has some really interesting midgame switches that I wouldn't have expected. "I violated your house" into "HIHO THE DAIRY OH!" really threw me. You don't usually expect children's poetry harass as a follow up " - AmericanUmlaut
Probulous
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3894 Posts
June 17 2012 02:21 GMT
#3068
On June 04 2012 14:39 wherebugsgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2012 14:28 MajuGarzett wrote:
On June 04 2012 14:02 EchelonTee wrote:
Maju: opinion on Marv and Manason pls. Lynch or no?

Gotta get those M's in place.

Has there been a case made on Marv to look at by any chance? I don't think I saw one. I've felt pretty safe about him though. I'd not vote for his lynch unless I've missed some really obvious scum tell.

Manason would be a good lynch I think. Marv's case on him was pretty sensible though I hope that Mana comes back to reply to it fully and also to present the promised case on Kita. I also found it strange that Mana never really commented on other cases on Kita and just went and said he'd construct his own case. It would make sense to do this if he had different reasons for suspecting Kita than others do but from what I can see he has only expressed agreement with the cases. He could be trying to avoid looking like he's blindly agreeing with people by saying he'll make his own case.


answer one question:

what's the single most important thing marvellosity did this game?

On June 04 2012 15:51 Probulous wrote:
Well MY answer would be that he has been right when he didn't have to be.

He was right about Zealos
He was right about supersoft
He was right about SnB
He was right about VE

But I guess that is more than one thing. Oh and he proposed to me. I'm a sucker for a girl on her knees.


This makes so much sense now. I've been used like a dirty dirty whore.
"Dude has some really interesting midgame switches that I wouldn't have expected. "I violated your house" into "HIHO THE DAIRY OH!" really threw me. You don't usually expect children's poetry harass as a follow up " - AmericanUmlaut
Probulous
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3894 Posts
June 17 2012 02:27 GMT
#3070
I've also never been a Vanilla Townie. I have a crazy mafia history.
"Dude has some really interesting midgame switches that I wouldn't have expected. "I violated your house" into "HIHO THE DAIRY OH!" really threw me. You don't usually expect children's poetry harass as a follow up " - AmericanUmlaut
Probulous
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3894 Posts
June 17 2012 23:19 GMT
#3096
On June 17 2012 21:54 supersoft wrote:
Probulus. You outed me as blue :-(

G_G


Yeah sorry about that, I really didn't realise until you pointed it out. To me it was simply a case of you knowing too much information.
"Dude has some really interesting midgame switches that I wouldn't have expected. "I violated your house" into "HIHO THE DAIRY OH!" really threw me. You don't usually expect children's poetry harass as a follow up " - AmericanUmlaut
Probulous
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3894 Posts
June 18 2012 23:05 GMT
#3108
On June 19 2012 01:19 marvellosity wrote:
your game was awesome and thanks for hosting (i feel i forgot to say this already!)

P.S. greymist, probably the insane amount of bussing too


General question to the thread. How to deal with this as town?

I mean if scum are bussing the shit out themselves, how do you pick that up? I had Marv as "confirmed" town because he was being logical, consistent and finding scum. He was my strongest town read at end game and he turned out to be mafia. Yes Marv played well, but how do we counteract a scum bussing their entire team?

@Marv, I'm keeping the house and the car and keep your clammy paws away from my sound-system
"Dude has some really interesting midgame switches that I wouldn't have expected. "I violated your house" into "HIHO THE DAIRY OH!" really threw me. You don't usually expect children's poetry harass as a follow up " - AmericanUmlaut
Probulous
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3894 Posts
June 18 2012 23:16 GMT
#3116
On June 19 2012 08:07 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2012 08:05 Probulous wrote:
On June 19 2012 01:19 marvellosity wrote:
your game was awesome and thanks for hosting (i feel i forgot to say this already!)

P.S. greymist, probably the insane amount of bussing too


General question to the thread. How to deal with this as town?

I mean if scum are bussing the shit out themselves, how do you pick that up? I had Marv as "confirmed" town because he was being logical, consistent and finding scum. He was my strongest town read at end game and he turned out to be mafia. Yes Marv played well, but how do we counteract a scum bussing their entire team?


Generally by noticing a player who has found the entire scum team is still alive by endgame.


Hmmm, that is going to be difficult to argue.

Probulous: Take a look at marv over here. He has been reasonable, consistent and sucessfully scum hunting all game, but he is stil alive. He is clearly bussing his team and must die.

Marv: Right, so being good as this game makes me scum?

Probulous: Well scum should have shot you by now.

Marv: Hang on whilst I call the mafia line to explain to them how to play the game. They are clearly doing a terrible job.
"Dude has some really interesting midgame switches that I wouldn't have expected. "I violated your house" into "HIHO THE DAIRY OH!" really threw me. You don't usually expect children's poetry harass as a follow up " - AmericanUmlaut
Probulous
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3894 Posts
June 18 2012 23:24 GMT
#3119
I am so confused

Heading into end game there were plenty of confirmed town to choose from so that alllowed you to shoot someone else and not look suspicious. So in this case, people being confirmed worked against town.
"Dude has some really interesting midgame switches that I wouldn't have expected. "I violated your house" into "HIHO THE DAIRY OH!" really threw me. You don't usually expect children's poetry harass as a follow up " - AmericanUmlaut
Probulous
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3894 Posts
June 18 2012 23:35 GMT
#3123
On June 19 2012 08:26 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2012 08:24 Probulous wrote:
I am so confused

Heading into end game there were plenty of confirmed town to choose from so that alllowed you to shoot someone else and not look suspicious. So in this case, people being confirmed worked against town.


Correct, in this particular instance having plenty of confirmed town helped me out a shit-ton.

Imagine I went through say the last 2 nights surviving while a bunch of random other dudes died, but I somehow lived. At some point the question is "why is he alive?". But as there were so many confirmed townies I avoided that fate


That is my problem and that is why it will be hard to argue. Assuming I am end gamed and so in a position to argue this point, surely you could turn the arguement around and say

"Well, you're alive. You must be scum."

I fail to see how that is a convincing argument. It seems like a free kill for mafia.

Step 1: Bus entire team but play a little scummy
Step 2: Keep one obvious townie alive till end game
Step 3: Call him out for not dying
Step 4: Profit?

Is end game a time when being rational is no longer a reasonable position to take? As in why assume the biggest townie around is actually scum bussing his whole team, over scum chose their shots for reasons we cannot know?

I'm failing hard here ><
"Dude has some really interesting midgame switches that I wouldn't have expected. "I violated your house" into "HIHO THE DAIRY OH!" really threw me. You don't usually expect children's poetry harass as a follow up " - AmericanUmlaut
Probulous
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3894 Posts
June 18 2012 23:48 GMT
#3126
On June 19 2012 08:39 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2012 08:35 Probulous wrote:
I fail to see how that is a convincing argument. It seems like a free kill for mafia.

Step 1: Bus entire team but play a little scummy
Step 2: Keep one obvious townie alive till end game
Step 3: Call him out for not dying
Step 4: Profit?

Is end game a time when being rational is no longer a reasonable position to take? As in why assume the biggest townie around is actually scum bussing his whole team, over scum chose their shots for reasons we cannot know?

I'm failing hard here ><


In most games if you're busing the entire game, its going to be 12v1 at step three and its going to take more than free kill to win.

Just remember its always the correct decision to lynch a Radfield who has not been shot by night two.


Well we'll get to test that theory very soon.

Marv, you can play a little scummy by pushing easy miss-lynches. You played me really well this game because you defended VE hard core when I started defending him. To me you were the only one making sense and so naturally you gained points in my book. Then Zealos flipped and you looked even better plus you were right about supersoft. By the time that information was known I had come to same conclusions and so you were my biggest town read.

The manason miss-lynch has a lot to do with his terrible play. If you look at it, if maju had been lynched first, would manason have gotten off scott free? I doubt it. So you were not going to be lynched over that.

I guess the big play you made was defending VE when you replaced in. It allowed you to legitimately say you came with fresh eyes and don't believe the case (like me). When he flipped you gain a lot of cred which allowed you to hide among the "confirmed" townies but not be too confirmed. It was great play, I am just trying to figure out what I should do next time we play together.
"Dude has some really interesting midgame switches that I wouldn't have expected. "I violated your house" into "HIHO THE DAIRY OH!" really threw me. You don't usually expect children's poetry harass as a follow up " - AmericanUmlaut
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