• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 00:38
CEST 06:38
KST 13:38
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL19] Finals Recap: Standing Tall9HomeStory Cup 27 - Info & Preview18Classic wins Code S Season 2 (2025)16Code S RO4 & Finals Preview: herO, Rogue, Classic, GuMiho0TL Team Map Contest #5: Presented by Monster Energy6
Community News
Flash Announces Hiatus From ASL54Weekly Cups (June 23-29): Reynor in world title form?12FEL Cracov 2025 (July 27) - $8000 live event16Esports World Cup 2025 - Final Player Roster16Weekly Cups (June 16-22): Clem strikes back1
StarCraft 2
General
The SCII GOAT: A statistical Evaluation The GOAT ranking of GOAT rankings Statistics for vetoed/disliked maps How does the number of casters affect your enjoyment of esports? Esports World Cup 2025 - Final Player Roster
Tourneys
Korean Starcraft League Week 77 Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2) RSL: Revival, a new crowdfunded tournament series [GSL 2025] Code S: Season 2 - Semi Finals & Finals $5,100+ SEL Season 2 Championship (SC: Evo)
Strategy
How did i lose this ZvP, whats the proper response Simple Questions Simple Answers
Custom Maps
[UMS] Zillion Zerglings
External Content
Mutation # 480 Moths to the Flame Mutation # 479 Worn Out Welcome Mutation # 478 Instant Karma Mutation # 477 Slow and Steady
Brood War
General
Player “Jedi” cheat on CSL Flash Announces Hiatus From ASL BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Unit and Spell Similarities Help: rep cant save
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL20] Grand Finals - Sunday 20:00 CET Small VOD Thread 2.0 [BSL20] GosuLeague RO16 - Tue & Wed 20:00+CET
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers I am doing this better than progamers do.
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Path of Exile What do you want from future RTS games? Beyond All Reason
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Trading/Investing Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread The Games Industry And ATVI
Fan Clubs
SKT1 Classic Fan Club! Maru Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece [\m/] Heavy Metal Thread
Sports
Formula 1 Discussion 2024 - 2025 Football Thread NBA General Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 NHL Playoffs 2024
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Blogs
Culture Clash in Video Games…
TrAiDoS
from making sc maps to makin…
Husyelt
Blog #2
tankgirl
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Trip to the Zoo
micronesia
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 673 users

Pick Your Power: Redux

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
1 2 3 4 Next All
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
May 08 2012 00:53 GMT
#71
##Vote: PYP

nomination sounds really interesting though, but pyp is a classic.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-08 09:39:17
May 08 2012 09:38 GMT
#124
I have zero tolerance for flaming, and I will ban/modkill you. You have been warned


What constitutes as flaming?

The real reason I'm asking is I hate not being able to call people dumb when they're dumb. I find it really unbalanced that people are allowed to post stuff that's so stupid that it's borderline trolling, intentionally or not, but I'm not allowed to say that everything they're saying is incredibly dumb and worthless.

ie: If I join, can I call people dumb when they're dumb?

To clarify, I want to call whatever people are saying dumb, not insult the person directly, though most of the time an indirect insult is taken.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
May 08 2012 11:59 GMT
#140
/in
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
May 14 2012 20:33 GMT
#358
And what are you gonna do about it bitch?
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
May 14 2012 20:35 GMT
#360
Bitch is a compliment in my own twisted way.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
May 14 2012 20:37 GMT
#362
On May 15 2012 05:36 Mattchew wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2012 05:35 Palmar wrote:
Bitch is a compliment in my own twisted way.

you should just go fishing


Announcement, I intend to win this draft thing and draft a day vigilante and shoot the first person I don't like.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
May 14 2012 20:38 GMT
#364
On May 15 2012 05:37 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2012 05:36 Mattchew wrote:
On May 15 2012 05:35 Palmar wrote:
Bitch is a compliment in my own twisted way.

you should just go fishing


And don't use electricity, it'll just feed your rage more.


I prefer grenades.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
May 15 2012 09:31 GMT
#424
how about we all pick vanilla town?
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
May 15 2012 11:12 GMT
#428
Hi guys :D

After not having read through the thread I don't agree with the plans proposed by Toad and Qatol so far. CPR is definitely a really powerful role and keeping it accountable should be a top pirority. Same goes for Janitor. Is there a reason why we arent carrying this out for roles such as roleblocker too? Unlike Toad I find it highly likely that a town RB will be of much use considering the probable high density of blues on the scum team, but a scum RB will be very useful despite no one being dumb enough to claim randomly.

I also dont really see how GF is as powerful as sandroba says that he wants the first person to take it. Theres only 1 alignment cop (parity cop) which makes the check immunity power rarely come into play anyway, and the vengeful part doesnt seem that powerful as its simply a 1 for 1 (always good for town) and it applies only on a lynch - considering the amount of KP roles its highly likely a decent portion of scum are going to die to something other than the lynch anyway.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
May 16 2012 09:22 GMT
#492
I hereby define everything that's been said in the thread as pointless spam.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
May 17 2012 12:45 GMT
#654
I'm the pardoner.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
May 17 2012 13:01 GMT
#657
also nice job mattchew. you're now confirmed town along with me and zephirdd. let's internet high five each other.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
May 17 2012 13:03 GMT
#659
dude I completely ignored the thread until daypost. I find planning and shit extremely boring.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
May 17 2012 22:29 GMT
#747
I'm thinking we should murder Qatol. Need to read a bit more before I make up my mind. I will post a few more things tomorrow.

Sandroba, how do you feel about that?
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
May 18 2012 10:25 GMT
#807
On May 18 2012 03:46 sandroba wrote:
@Palmar What is your reasoning for picking pardoner at your position?


I'm glad you asked!

I am particularly proud of my pardoner draft idea, and even more glad that I got the role.

You see, I figured I wouldn't get any particularly strong role with such a bad drafting position. Drafting something like a vigilante role, which is something I would like, was almost out of the question.

So I decided to go with a role that confirms I'm town instead.

Why does it confirm I'm town? Well let me explain.

I drafted it and claimed it. The pardoner is a very hard role to use for both sides, very few people in this game possess the confidence and authority to successfully use this role as town, and as soon as mafia uses their claimed pardoner power, the pardoner gets lynched or shot the next night, because there is a valid case against the person being lynched, most likely.

In fact, assuming I'm mafia it's strictly optimal play for me to just claim vanilla town. I can easily claim that I tried to draft day vigilante as I had already mentioned wanting that role, and I knew it had gone to someone above me in the draft. I had a perfect alibi, and it's dumb as shit to claim pardoner as mafia, because there is NOTHING stopping a scum Palmar from just acting like a vanilla townie throughout the game, quietly wasting town time by pardoning someone at some point through the game.

Thus it's simply dumb to assume I'm scum at this point. I'm accountable for the pardon if and when it happens. Ideally I will not use the power at all in the game, but if I do I will announce it. Only reason I would be using it is if something on XLVIII scale of stupidity happens.

Unless of course you think I'm pulling some kinda crazy gambit, which I admit would not be completely out of character for me, however Occam's razor says I'm town.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
May 18 2012 10:27 GMT
#808
ok now I need to read up on that sentinel situation, I'll explain why I don't like some of the stuff Qatol's posted later. I decided though that it doesn't necessarily make him scum, it might just be him thinking everyone else is stupid, which I can't really criticize since that's my opinion most of the time.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
May 18 2012 10:39 GMT
#811
On May 17 2012 23:18 Mattchew wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2012 22:01 Palmar wrote:
also nice job mattchew. you're now confirmed town along with me and zephirdd. let's internet high five each other.

i'll internet high five you when you catch scum today, get on my level son.



I don't want to go down on "riding my first success"-level again.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
May 18 2012 10:39 GMT
#812
On May 18 2012 19:37 sandroba wrote:
@palmar sounds solid. Any ideas on how to deal with the sentinel/risk/marv situation?


I'm just reading it atm.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
May 18 2012 10:49 GMT
#813
On May 18 2012 19:31 risk.nuke wrote:
Me and marv roleclaiming is a bad idea. The chance that you will be able to deduce something out of that that's going to have an impact is just very slim for the risk. I could get behind this if Sentinel flips town but not as it is now.


I don't care what role marv is, but I'd like to hear yours.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
May 18 2012 10:51 GMT
#814
On May 18 2012 04:36 Mattchew wrote:
We have so much kp. If risk doesn't flip janitor, we shoot marv and sent.


Sometimes I love the way you think Mattchew. Killing everyone is a valid solution to any problem
Computer says mafia
1 2 3 4 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Korean StarCraft League
03:00
Week 77
EnkiAlexander 113
davetesta81
HKG_Chickenman72
IntoTheiNu 60
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Nina 242
PiLiPiLi 10
StarCraft: Brood War
Sea 4146
Dota 2
monkeys_forever671
NeuroSwarm120
febbydoto23
LuMiX1
League of Legends
JimRising 830
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor70
Other Games
summit1g9037
WinterStarcraft579
Livibee127
Organizations
Other Games
BasetradeTV58
StarCraft: Brood War
UltimateBattle 21
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH308
• Hupsaiya 83
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• sooper7s
• intothetv
• Migwel
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
StarCraft: Brood War
• Diggity4
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
League of Legends
• Lourlo1245
• masondota2441
• Stunt395
Upcoming Events
CranKy Ducklings
5h 23m
RSL Revival
5h 23m
ByuN vs Cham
herO vs Reynor
FEL
11h 23m
RSL Revival
1d 5h
Clem vs Classic
SHIN vs Cure
FEL
1d 7h
BSL: ProLeague
1d 13h
Dewalt vs Bonyth
Replay Cast
2 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
3 days
The PondCast
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
[ Show More ]
RSL Revival
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
RSL Revival
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

BSL 2v2 Season 3
HSC XXVII
Heroes 10 EU

Ongoing

JPL Season 2
BSL Season 20
Acropolis #3
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 2
CSL 17: 2025 SUMMER
Copa Latinoamericana 4
Championship of Russia 2025
RSL Revival: Season 1
Murky Cup #2
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 7
IEM Dallas 2025
PGL Astana 2025
Asian Champions League '25
BLAST Rivals Spring 2025
MESA Nomadic Masters
CCT Season 2 Global Finals
IEM Melbourne 2025

Upcoming

2025 ACS Season 2: Qualifier
CSLPRO Last Chance 2025
2025 ACS Season 2
CSLPRO Chat StarLAN 3
K-Championship
uThermal 2v2 Main Event
SEL Season 2 Championship
FEL Cracov 2025
Esports World Cup 2025
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.