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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
May 08 2012 00:53 GMT
#71
##Vote: PYP

nomination sounds really interesting though, but pyp is a classic.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-08 09:39:17
May 08 2012 09:38 GMT
#124
I have zero tolerance for flaming, and I will ban/modkill you. You have been warned


What constitutes as flaming?

The real reason I'm asking is I hate not being able to call people dumb when they're dumb. I find it really unbalanced that people are allowed to post stuff that's so stupid that it's borderline trolling, intentionally or not, but I'm not allowed to say that everything they're saying is incredibly dumb and worthless.

ie: If I join, can I call people dumb when they're dumb?

To clarify, I want to call whatever people are saying dumb, not insult the person directly, though most of the time an indirect insult is taken.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
May 08 2012 11:59 GMT
#140
/in
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
May 14 2012 20:33 GMT
#358
And what are you gonna do about it bitch?
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
May 14 2012 20:35 GMT
#360
Bitch is a compliment in my own twisted way.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
May 14 2012 20:37 GMT
#362
On May 15 2012 05:36 Mattchew wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2012 05:35 Palmar wrote:
Bitch is a compliment in my own twisted way.

you should just go fishing


Announcement, I intend to win this draft thing and draft a day vigilante and shoot the first person I don't like.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
May 14 2012 20:38 GMT
#364
On May 15 2012 05:37 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2012 05:36 Mattchew wrote:
On May 15 2012 05:35 Palmar wrote:
Bitch is a compliment in my own twisted way.

you should just go fishing


And don't use electricity, it'll just feed your rage more.


I prefer grenades.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
May 15 2012 09:31 GMT
#424
how about we all pick vanilla town?
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
May 15 2012 11:12 GMT
#428
Hi guys :D

After not having read through the thread I don't agree with the plans proposed by Toad and Qatol so far. CPR is definitely a really powerful role and keeping it accountable should be a top pirority. Same goes for Janitor. Is there a reason why we arent carrying this out for roles such as roleblocker too? Unlike Toad I find it highly likely that a town RB will be of much use considering the probable high density of blues on the scum team, but a scum RB will be very useful despite no one being dumb enough to claim randomly.

I also dont really see how GF is as powerful as sandroba says that he wants the first person to take it. Theres only 1 alignment cop (parity cop) which makes the check immunity power rarely come into play anyway, and the vengeful part doesnt seem that powerful as its simply a 1 for 1 (always good for town) and it applies only on a lynch - considering the amount of KP roles its highly likely a decent portion of scum are going to die to something other than the lynch anyway.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
May 16 2012 09:22 GMT
#492
I hereby define everything that's been said in the thread as pointless spam.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
May 17 2012 12:45 GMT
#654
I'm the pardoner.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
May 17 2012 13:01 GMT
#657
also nice job mattchew. you're now confirmed town along with me and zephirdd. let's internet high five each other.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
May 17 2012 13:03 GMT
#659
dude I completely ignored the thread until daypost. I find planning and shit extremely boring.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
May 17 2012 22:29 GMT
#747
I'm thinking we should murder Qatol. Need to read a bit more before I make up my mind. I will post a few more things tomorrow.

Sandroba, how do you feel about that?
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
May 18 2012 10:25 GMT
#807
On May 18 2012 03:46 sandroba wrote:
@Palmar What is your reasoning for picking pardoner at your position?


I'm glad you asked!

I am particularly proud of my pardoner draft idea, and even more glad that I got the role.

You see, I figured I wouldn't get any particularly strong role with such a bad drafting position. Drafting something like a vigilante role, which is something I would like, was almost out of the question.

So I decided to go with a role that confirms I'm town instead.

Why does it confirm I'm town? Well let me explain.

I drafted it and claimed it. The pardoner is a very hard role to use for both sides, very few people in this game possess the confidence and authority to successfully use this role as town, and as soon as mafia uses their claimed pardoner power, the pardoner gets lynched or shot the next night, because there is a valid case against the person being lynched, most likely.

In fact, assuming I'm mafia it's strictly optimal play for me to just claim vanilla town. I can easily claim that I tried to draft day vigilante as I had already mentioned wanting that role, and I knew it had gone to someone above me in the draft. I had a perfect alibi, and it's dumb as shit to claim pardoner as mafia, because there is NOTHING stopping a scum Palmar from just acting like a vanilla townie throughout the game, quietly wasting town time by pardoning someone at some point through the game.

Thus it's simply dumb to assume I'm scum at this point. I'm accountable for the pardon if and when it happens. Ideally I will not use the power at all in the game, but if I do I will announce it. Only reason I would be using it is if something on XLVIII scale of stupidity happens.

Unless of course you think I'm pulling some kinda crazy gambit, which I admit would not be completely out of character for me, however Occam's razor says I'm town.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
May 18 2012 10:27 GMT
#808
ok now I need to read up on that sentinel situation, I'll explain why I don't like some of the stuff Qatol's posted later. I decided though that it doesn't necessarily make him scum, it might just be him thinking everyone else is stupid, which I can't really criticize since that's my opinion most of the time.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
May 18 2012 10:39 GMT
#811
On May 17 2012 23:18 Mattchew wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2012 22:01 Palmar wrote:
also nice job mattchew. you're now confirmed town along with me and zephirdd. let's internet high five each other.

i'll internet high five you when you catch scum today, get on my level son.



I don't want to go down on "riding my first success"-level again.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
May 18 2012 10:39 GMT
#812
On May 18 2012 19:37 sandroba wrote:
@palmar sounds solid. Any ideas on how to deal with the sentinel/risk/marv situation?


I'm just reading it atm.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
May 18 2012 10:49 GMT
#813
On May 18 2012 19:31 risk.nuke wrote:
Me and marv roleclaiming is a bad idea. The chance that you will be able to deduce something out of that that's going to have an impact is just very slim for the risk. I could get behind this if Sentinel flips town but not as it is now.


I don't care what role marv is, but I'd like to hear yours.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
May 18 2012 10:51 GMT
#814
On May 18 2012 04:36 Mattchew wrote:
We have so much kp. If risk doesn't flip janitor, we shoot marv and sent.


Sometimes I love the way you think Mattchew. Killing everyone is a valid solution to any problem
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