EPTI also think that austinmcc is the third mafia.
But I'm sure of BioSC - so we'll start with him, no?
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I also think that austinmcc is the third mafia. But I'm sure of BioSC - so we'll start with him, no? | ||
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On May 15 2012 08:52 Unforgiven_ve wrote: i need to read more camly all the post to get a 3rd suspect. Btw, now you see, op just said there were 3 mafias. another thing i was suspicious of austin It's BioSC, FirmTofu, and austincc....TT | ||
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On May 15 2012 09:04 Unforgiven_ve wrote: are you suggeting that Bio and Tofu are higer in your list than austin? I'm suggesting that they are all mafia. | ||
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On May 16 2012 06:05 austinmcc wrote: Looks like I won't be back before the deadline, so I'll just parrot what everyone else is saying and note that I'm still suspicious of Anac, despite arguing against a vote on him D1. What really sticks out to me is this post - I alluded to it D1, + Show Spoiler + On May 11 2012 00:39 austinmcc wrote: Anacletus, why, specifically, did you vote Tofu? All you've said is: In your original vote. But you didn't tell us what you found suspicious. Say you think this, why vote Tofu? He posted once, 40 minutes into the game, and hasn't been active. That's not vocal in chat. His activity so far this game doesn't fit the pattern that you believe to be scummy. Town's job isn't to care about what gameplan mafia may or may not have. Our job is to hunt scum. To me, your vote on Tofu, especially as it runs against your own reasoning, looks scummy or newbie townish. Yet you say you've played games elsewhere before. I don't know whether to slot Anac in as the third mafia, whether to think maybe dahdum and BioSC were just looking to make weak cases on each other and gain town cred if one was lynched and flipped scum, or whether there's another third mafia member out there. Relatively confident in those other two reads, and I can't really adopt some plan of "Assume everyone I read as scum is town," because that's just too confusing. I'll post more when I get enough free time and a computer, but it will be after the deadline. If nothing else, should I be the nightkill, hopefully some of this will be helpful. I think that the day 1 votes should be enough proof that I'm not mafia considering I was nearly killed. Vote BioSC - FirmTofu - austinmcc mafia! | ||
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On May 17 2012 09:50 BioSC wrote: EBWOP: I don't want this to get buried. If you think its a bad read, that I'm wrong, or that I'm right, WHATEVER, TELL ME. I want some discussion on something, whether it be this or something else. + Show Spoiler + On May 17 2012 07:07 BioSC wrote: Lets just pause for one second. Are we really going to vote with someone who multiple confirmed townies have called out since day 1, has had inconsistent posting patterns, and is now tunneling against the person who has been calling him out since day 2? Whomever shot Mufaa, thank you. I wish I could take credit for it, but I can't. Now, we can finally look at the filter of a CONFIRMED scum, and try to draw some conclusions from it. This post in particular stood out to me: + Show Spoiler + On May 12 2012 06:18 Mufaa wrote: Like I've been saying since my first post, I think Ana is bad town more than mafia. Every scummy thing he has done has been so scummy that if he was Mafia his partners would be berating him so bad he probably would have stopped posting instead of digging himself into this giant hole he's made. Austin's point about how even if Ana is scum he's lost so much credibility he can't make a push on someone d2. If he doesn't improve his play we might have to take him out later, but right now if we lynch him we won't gain any real info. Everyone has been on to him at some point, so if he flips town we gain almost nothing from this since his posts lack any content. If he flips scum the scum would lose a player, but that honestly might help them if he really is scum and is playing like this. If we lynch someone else and they flip town, we can see who has been focused on them, who stayed out of the discussion on that person and we at least have some good info to discuss over d2. The odds are just as good of anyone else flipping scum, so I would rather flip someone who would give us info instead of giving scum the option to hide behind the excuse that Ana was such a bad townie, how could everyone not vote for him. I think BroodKingEXE needs to post some content instead of one liners and just agreeing with people as it comes off scummy, but he isn't my first choice at the moment. Jailbreaker- Why haven't you posted in the last 3 and a half pages? You commented early on about how much aggression there was but you haven't made a single case, even hinted at having a read, or contributed to the town in any way. Why are you so content to just sit back and watch everyone else debate with the deadline so close? ##Vote Jailbreaker This isn't a permanent vote. I think Jailbreaker is the best lynch so far. If no one else feels this way, I will swing my vote to BroodKingEXE to get some info from the lynch as I do think his actual content will give us something to compare to everyone else d2 once we see his flip. We know for a fact that Mufaa was scum. Therefore, HE knows what alignment Anacletus is. If Ana was town, why would the scum team switch votes to anyone? Town lynches a townie, and scum get to shoot someone, instantly putting them in the best possible situation. The only situation i can see is that the scumteam made a last minute ploy to save Anacletus, and it worked. The suspicions I have are further strengthened by the same vote list that Anacletus used in his case against me. Quite ironically, austinmcc was the one who made it, and will end up being what I believe will be a very strong scumread against the 2 remaining mafia. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AnX9O6cujxVmdFlvZkdqR1g0Qlh3d2dSaENrdW9DblE#gid=0 Notice the 2 people WHO NEVER VOTED ANACLETUS That would be austin (the person who made the chart) and Mufaa (The confirmed scum) I believe that mafia told Anacletus to vote for himself after the rest of the town started having major suspicions against him, to look more "innocent" or "new" to mafia. Once votes started coming in for BKE, he switched his vote over, to finally secure the lynch of a confirmed town. Those are not my words, however. Those are HIS. + Show Spoiler + On May 12 2012 06:43 Anacletus wrote: I'll be real with you man, I don't actually have *that* much of an inclination to believing that you are mafia. It's just that it feels like it's either you or me, so I'm trying to save my own neck. I am not without doubt of you - I just don't think that there's enough information for me to think it's worthy to hang you, but again, if it comes down to me or you, it's you... :/ I do think that others feel like you're mafia though, so that's why my vote is where it is. I feel like it was a combined play from the scumteam to cover up an early slip by one of their own. Anacletus with his sudden change in posting style and acting like bad town, Mufaa adding to the story by posting in defence of Anacletus, all nicely wrapped up with the case made by Austin to lynch a Blue Town. Finally, after making his "case" against me, Anacletus has simply stopped participating in anything remotely town positive. Looking through his filter of the last couple of days, they are simply one-liners and fluff posts. I get the feeling from him that I'm on the right track, and he's the one being defensive and trying to get people to vote me. This is my current thoughts on what is going on. Feel free to discuss. Should Anacletus feel like defending himself, here is what I want to know: 1) Why did the 1 of the 2 people who didn't vote you day 1 turn up scum? 2) Why was a confirmed mafia defending you up until his shot? 3) Why have you only posted a case on me, when there are 2 mafia left? What happens if you get your wish and I'm lynched today? What happens if I flip Town? ## Vote Anacletus Yeah I think it is a great synopsis that makes a lot of sense in a lot of ways, it's pretty condemning evidence at me. I'm not mafia though, so I don't know what to say. Also, pointing out good information doesn't make me less suspicious of you, which is why I have voted for you and I have seen others suspicious of you so I am just going to let them connect the dots for a bit. | ||
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On May 17 2012 10:04 austinmcc wrote: Bio my honest answer right now is... Sweet jesus I don't want to look through his filter. Any time I start, I see myself defending him on D1 as noob town. Everything on D1, everything since, I can still read as noob town or as scum. I was actually serious when I said he was so questionable that he'd have no chance to drive things in later days and cause chaos, and I've stuck by that, basically skipping over his posts (and also, to some extent, cases on him because I have been refusing to read him). Which is, frankly, not helpful. I got through your filter and a full gameread, but didn't get around to his because I seriously don't even want to wade in. I will make myself do some looking tonight, but I will probably mainly be reading your case and others' cases on him, because I just start to confuse myself when I look at his filter. Exactly, I'm just ignored, carry on. | ||
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On May 14 2012 12:18 FirmTofu wrote: If Anacletus flips mafia, austinmcc is nearly certainly mafia. Everything points to it. Buddying is already evident in Anacletus' posts but I'm going to read more to find a substantial argument in favor of this. Vote to hang me, then you'll get whatever information you're after. On May 14 2012 10:51 BioSC wrote: @Analectus: Who did you get to write this for you? I mashed random keys. On May 17 2012 07:07 BioSC wrote: I believe that mafia told Anacletus to vote for himself after the rest of the town started having major suspicions against him, to look more "innocent" or "new" to mafia. Once votes started coming in for BKE, he switched his vote over, to finally secure the lynch of a confirmed town. Those are not my words, however. Those are HIS. Good points, I'd hang me as well. On May 17 2012 09:48 BioSC wrote: You still haven't addressed my comments made towards you, Anacletus. I would appreciate if you didn't bury them. Not burying anything, just hang me, This is my current thoughts on what is going on. Feel free to discuss. Should Anacletus feel like defending himself, here is what I want to know: On May 17 2012 07:07 BioSC wrote: 1) Why did the 1 of the 2 people who didn't vote you day 1 turn up scum? 2) Why was a confirmed mafia defending you up until his shot? 3) Why have you only posted a case on me, when there are 2 mafia left? What happens if you get your wish and I'm lynched today? What happens if I flip Town? How the fuck do I answer why people do what they did? I can only answer why I've been after you, and it's because I think you're mafia. On May 17 2012 10:04 austinmcc wrote: I was actually serious when I said he was so questionable that he'd have no chance to drive things in later days and cause chaos, and I've stuck by that, basically skipping over his posts (and also, to some extent, cases on him because I have been refusing to read him). Huh, well how about that. So, yeah. I did make what I considered a good analysis post against BioSC, but I think he was the only one to read it, as he was the only one to address it, or even mention it's existence. So with that in mind, BioSC has me convinced, I must be mafia. He's made a pretty convincing case as is. ##Unvote ##Vote Anacletus | ||
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On May 17 2012 13:38 FirmTofu wrote: Anacletus, you aren't helping my voting yourself and it isn't winning you any town points. It just makes you look like a self-centered brat that doesn't want to take the time to defend himself in the face of an accusation and then wants to go, "I told you so!" when you flip town. I want you to unvote yourself right now and start playing the game because you aren't contributing anything of value yet. BioSC has convinced me that he's mafia, I'd advise you to switch your vote back onto him. Mega-post incoming. I'm not giving up on trying to win. I just figure by the way you guys are playing that I'm more of a liability than anything. So why not just get this done now for a higher chance of winning later. Not defending one's self doesn't equate to how one acts. And thank you for calling me a self-centered brat, I will be sure to compile this alongside the other ad hominem that I've receiced, like how my posts aren't worth reading, or how mafia writes my posts for me because I must be too stupid to write them myself. And this is getting off-topic, so I'll stop defending myself from baseless attacks now. [Hr] I'm leaving my vote where it is until I have substantial reason to do otherwise. | ||
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On May 18 2012 06:19 Crossfire99 wrote: Anacletus, do you just not care at all in this game? On May 17 2012 13:45 Anacletus wrote: I'm not giving up on trying to win. I just figure by the way you guys are playing that I'm more of a liability than anything. So why not just get this done now for a higher chance of winning later. Not defending one's self doesn't equate to how one acts. Thank you for taking the time to read my posts. This quote is from yesterday so either you didn't read it or just forgot. Please don't accuse me of things such as ruining the game purposefully or not caring. | ||
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##Unvote ##Vote Hyaach On May 17 2012 20:39 Hyaach wrote: My mafia team right now is Mufaa Austinmcc and Unforgiven_ It may seem small, I just think that the only reason to add Mufaa into that after he is already dead is silly and is just a mechanism used to add weight to his opinion and distance himself from Mufaa. Again, it's something small, but I think it's quite telling. On May 16 2012 19:55 Hyaach wrote: Well i guess the night wasn't for naught. Going to look through mufaa's filter. In case anyone was wondering, I was suspicious of dahdum before this. Obviously I was wrong i guess. I also think that he's just been pretty wishy-washy and trying to not gain any attention at all. So that's the big reasons for me voting - along with that I don't necessarily think anyone else has condemning evidence against them. So, again, I am always watching so if you post something at me assume I'm lurking and not answering for a reason/waiting for another reply or formulating my own reply. | ||
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