EPTUnfortunately I have a very busy day tomorrow that I need to get some sleep for. I'm not going to have time to rewrite or post my case until tomorrow evening (it is almost midnight here). I'll still try to check up on the thread but don't expect anything significant until then. Gnight.
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DoYouHas
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Unfortunately I have a very busy day tomorrow that I need to get some sleep for. I'm not going to have time to rewrite or post my case until tomorrow evening (it is almost midnight here). I'll still try to check up on the thread but don't expect anything significant until then. Gnight. | ||
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Here is a summary of my points against PM: -His votes on Grush and BM were poorly justified. -He went after slOosh both when he was correct about sinani and when he was correct about Katina. -He repeatedly brought up BH's mistakes in past games which I think served to undermine the town leadership role BH was establishing. -Starting with this post Katina seemed like a buzzword for PM. Mentioning Katina seems to draw more attention from PM than is warranted IMO. Those were the highlights of why I find PM suspicious. Right now it seems as if most of the focus is going onto layabout and NT. Layabout earned the attention he garnered but at the same time I think he defended himself fairly well and is producing content. I'm not going to vote him unless someone produces a clean and convincing case or summary of previous cases against him. (I will admit that my thoughts regarding layabout have become a little muddled.) NT is also deservedly under threat. His play style seems so far off of what I saw from his Godfather play in the newbie I cohosted. I expected fairly spammy play from him. I would not be upset with him being lynched today in spite of his promises of more activity in the near future. Blubb I think deserves to be thrust back into the frontrunners for today's lynch. I intend to do just that with my next post. | ||
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I suppose I should start with far and away the scummiest of blubbdavid's posts and then tack on all the extras after to seal the deal. On May 07 2012 04:27 blubbdavid wrote: 1. Somethingawesome, still think I am not scum? 2. How about you lynch me, or are you too cautious because it could reveal your whole scumplan? I need action, not words. 3. You are buddying up with layabout instead of scumhunting. Cast your vote on the one you think is the most scummy player. You say that I know layabout's alignment (mind reading), BUT: Is my concern illegitimate? You are circling around the actual matter: Why did layabout push BM so hard? Come on, tell me. 4. Furthermore: BM was a lurker, and yes, a lynch on him wouldn't have been out-of-normal, but the intensity with which layabout has pushed BM surprised me. And I have been pushing on lay since I saw that he wanted to policy lynch BM although he vowed not to policy lynch. about Palm: Seems like the first option was true. grush: I may have sheeped on this vote, I admit but I didn't sheep with the vote of layabout I want to see some action of you, SA. 1. This is awkwardly phrased considering SA had just said that he thinks blubb is scum. 2. Daring SA to try and lynch you? Where is this coming from? For someone who has played the "my bad, don't hold it against me" card as well as a "I give up" defense this is extremely out of character and scummy. Not only that, he states his read that SA is scum because SA doesn't want to vote for him yet which immediately makes his next statement absurd. 3. This is the part that really got me wanting to lynch blubb. Let us think about this ridiculous scenario that blubb has put forth between SA and layabout. Supposedly at this point blubb believes both SA and layabout to be scum, or at the very least highly suspicious. So in what world does it make sense that one scum(SA) is going to 'buddy' ANOTHER SCUM(laya), another scum who just happens to be under a fair bit of scrutiny atm. Even forgetting the scrutiny part it doesn't make sense. In blubb's attempt to defend against SA's claim that blubb seemed to know people's roles he slips again and gives us this buddying scenario. The only way that it can possibly make sense is if blubb KNOWS that layabout is town. 4. Didn't sheep the vote of layabout, true, but then there is this: On May 05 2012 06:49 blubbdavid wrote: For someone who has been fixated on attacking others (mainly layabout) for pushing a BM lynch you were awful ready to jump on the train to secure the lynch. Ok thx. So I won't switch to BM. Part 2 On May 05 2012 02:54 blubbdavid wrote: I am also willing to lynch BM if there's no majority on grush. But: What even more important is than lynching scum D1is obtaining information. A BM lynch wouldn't us give much info, assuming he is scum. I still want to see panda's take on grush before I set my vote in stone. And lol, there's no way BM is going to be modkilled. Seriously, obtaining information is more important than lynching scum D1 according to blubb. This is the reasoning he uses to say that BM was a bad lynch. This is just so incredibly wrong from a town POV. Lynch a lurker scum d1 you get all the info of the people fighting/pushing the lynch + the chance to get rid of a scum power + YOU JUST KILLED SCUM, CMON. On May 06 2012 19:50 blubbdavid wrote: I see, Blazinghand is switching cases so it looks like he doesn't sheep l10f. Well, jdup has made a good post regarding layabout's behaviour It took scum by surprise that Kat was modkilled. blubb quotes JW's good post on laya's behavior and then does what? Reinforce a point(s) he liked? no. Expand or provide further analysis? no. What we get is this statement, "It took scum by surprise that Kat was modkilled." What purpose does this serve? This statement isn't, "I also think it took scum by surprise that Kat was modkilled." or "If it took scum by surprise that Kat was modkilled then...". I think that the lack of relevance paired with the certainty on something that shouldn't have been able to go past speculation makes this likely to be a scumslip. Part 3 Inconsistencies and WIFOM: On May 04 2012 19:31 blubbdavid wrote: I have no read on Nova, he is pretty neutral atm. And I will stop tunneling grush for the time being, maybe he will come up with something useful. Still, I would be interested in papapanda's opinion. And katina, do some scumhunting. What is your opinion on grush? blubb calls out Katina which normally would mean that blubb would have taken note of Katina's past posts as well as be waiting for a response to this call out. Then we get this: On May 05 2012 05:36 blubbdavid wrote: ^yeah, everyone will probably jump a wagon. and layabout, you seem to be very very defensive, considering the fact that you only have 2 votes on you. I have to look into katina yet. This is after I made my case and slOosh had switched his vote. A consistent blubb would already have been up to date on Katina and this comment would have been either been accepting, refuting, or critiquing my case instead of playing at being ignorant. WIFOM: On May 05 2012 05:55 blubbdavid wrote: I have a suspicion: What if BM is scum, but doesn't want to play/ doesn't have time, so he sacrifices himself for the other scum? There are a few more examples of each I could pull for this section, but I feel like I would just be diluting my argument. TLDR: blubbdavid is scum, scumming scum ##Vote: blubbdavid | ||
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On May 08 2012 03:37 Mementoss wrote: I am here, will re-go through Nova and Blubbs cases. Is there any specific reason why you would think Blubb is worth lynching over Nova? Personally, I feel my case against blubb is stronger than those I have read against Nova (not that those cases are wrong) and so a blubb lynch is more likely to be a scum lynch. I think both are scummy. I suppose it makes sense to lynch blubb first because Nova has stated that he is about to have much more time to commit to the game. I'm willing to see what comes of that. I would need to reread all the hubub surrounding Nova to give you more concrete reasons, and I'm just not up to that before this deadline (tired). Layabout - Votes stand even at 5-5 on Nova and blubb. If you genuinely think blubb is the better lynch like I do then stick with it. We need to see how the next hour to hour 1/2 play out before we compromise in order to get a lynch. | ||
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I feel pretty comfortable picking our next lynch from the group of Johnny, layabout, nova, and KP. I'm going to need to do some serious reviewing before I know which I want to lynch over the others though. I know that a number of you have already picked your pony for d3 (probably because I usurped you with the blubb train) but I would really appreciate it if we could present complete cases for d3 to work from. Even if that means you are repeating points from earlier in the game. The recent posts on Johnny and layabout are a nice step in this direction. | ||
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Gogo town, make me proud. | ||
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