On May 03 2012 07:00 prplhz wrote:
lol second guess yourself 5000 times = bleh

should just have let him lynch himself but he's like confirmed scum now.

I hate those minutes right before the lynch.

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Sweden3280 Posts

May 02 2012 23:50 GMT

#1029

On May 03 2012 08:38 prplhz wrote:
done with this game, shit goes down but no one around to talk to. i know you're here forumite but you're not saying a thing.

Yeah, still here.

What´s there to say? We have a lot to talk about tomorrow after the daypost, but right now I´d rather wait and reread what happened. It´s night, I don´t expect there to be blues left to direct, so anything we say now only give scum tips on who to shoot.

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Sweden3280 Posts

May 03 2012 00:14 GMT

#1034

On May 03 2012 08:55 prplhz wrote:
i had to reread thrice 'cause you actually just asked "what's there to say?"

a guy just voted himself and then unvoted himself all within 10 minutes before deadline. how do you feel about this and why?

your opinions now please. this "give scum tips" is a myth perpetuated by scum who want an excuse not to say anything.

I disagree, giving our reads now show scum who to shoot, or not to shoot. If we talk about how player X is scum, then scum will definetly not shoot him during the night. Not saying anything means that we might get lucky, and scum acutally shoot someone we would probably have lynched the next day anyway. It´s happened before, that scum shoot my primary scumsuspect, that´s why I prefer not giving it away during the night.

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May 03 2012 00:34 GMT

#1036

On May 03 2012 09:24 prplhz wrote:
you already said "why aren't we lynching phagga after this stunt" and now you're saying "i don't want to give scum information about my phagga read"

does not compute

please tell me what you think of phagga (that he's scum) and tell me how you came to this conclusion

Phagga is scum because of his stunt before the deadline. The selfvoting was a scummove. He tried it in order to show townieness, hoping someone would get unsure, like you was, prplhz. We were very unlikely to vote him, since he´d allready hammered himself, so it was more or less safe to unvote himself to a no-lynch afterwards. Once he did unvote himself, it was too late to vote him. From my perspective it worked perfectly.

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May 03 2012 00:54 GMT

#1042

On May 03 2012 09:38 prplhz wrote:
do you think this gambit was worth it for scum considering that the alternative was a no lynch?

if nobody had reacted at all then he would be confirmed scum by unvoting himself.

how do you think his scum buddy felt about this gambit?

If he was town he should have let himself get lynched, so we wouldn´t be having this WIFOM-discussion now.

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Sweden3280 Posts

May 03 2012 00:57 GMT

#1043

On May 03 2012 09:47 prplhz wrote:
yea fuck it lets just lynch ace tomorrow

It´s things like this that give scum tips on who to shoot/not shoot during the night.

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Sweden3280 Posts

May 03 2012 01:04 GMT

#1049

On May 03 2012 09:58 prplhz wrote:
yea 'cause scum aren't as prone as townies to needlessly second guess themselves in the name of WIFOM

They are more likely to second guess themselves if we don´t tell them our reads during the night

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Sweden3280 Posts

May 03 2012 22:35 GMT

#1068

##Vote no-lynch

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Sweden3280 Posts

May 05 2012 00:44 GMT

#1081

Why lynch today? After the failed lynch yesterday we might as well wait and let scum eliminate another suspect.

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Sweden3280 Posts

May 05 2012 08:34 GMT

#1084

On May 05 2012 09:58 Ace wrote:
How many times are we gonna rehash the same thing? Does anyone have a NEW perspective? We're just stalling this game right now.

The important thing is winning, I don´t care about how fast we do it. If waiting until tomorrow gives us a better chance of lynching right, why not wait?

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Sweden3280 Posts

May 05 2012 18:20 GMT

#1086

Okay, let´s lynch today. That way we can afford a no-lynch tomorrow, instead of having two LYLOs in a row.

Last night decided it for me. The first time Phagga got under real pressure the whole game it was a very close vote, and ended with him doing a weird stunt 3 minutes before the deadline to screw town over.

##Unvote no-lynch
##Vote Phagga

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Sweden3280 Posts

May 05 2012 22:17 GMT

#1101

Sorry for messing with you prplhz =/

GG Town, a real nailbiter. I was getting really nervous when BL and then others started calling me and Ace scummy, especially S&B who pointed out the last scum last night.

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Sweden3280 Posts

May 05 2012 22:42 GMT

#1111

On May 06 2012 07:27 Sbrubbles wrote:
Also, who were you guys going to kill tonight? I would guess bluelightz

Yeah, BL was really the only option. Killing you or Phagga would undermine the whole case, and prplhz was agreeing with me.

On May 06 2012 07:27 prplhz wrote:
no it's good forumite

i think wherebugsgo was pretty fair in his nightpost. i was much more of a nuisance than a boon

hopefully it'll be better next time.

Nah, not your fault. You trusting me helped me a lot, but it was the general atmosphere that cost Town the game. Accusations were being thrown back and forth, everyone looked scummy so us scum could blend in, and even get away with crappy cases like the one on Phagga.

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Sweden3280 Posts

May 05 2012 22:43 GMT

#1113

Scum-QT

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Sweden3280 Posts

May 05 2012 23:13 GMT

#1124

It´s so much more tense playing anti-town than town. It feels like you are at LYLO the whole game, and one mistake will make you lose. It was a good thing Ace was so calm about it. BL accusing me of being scum, Ace tells me to ignore him. S&B identify the remaining scum, nah, don´t worry, let´s just shoot him.

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May 06 2012 01:07 GMT

#1134

On May 06 2012 10:03 Snarfs wrote:
I really should have rethought prplhz more because before the end of day 3 I wasn't really finding him suspicious at all.

But, like I said, learned a ton. Thanks everyone!

prplhz was 100% town, he just thought I was town too.

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Sweden3280 Posts

May 06 2012 11:44 GMT

#1145

Note to self: Alwasy kill Toades early.

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Sweden3280 Posts

May 06 2012 12:10 GMT

#1147

It´s tricky faking confused frustration, and making cases on people I know is town is bloody hard. If it wasn´t for all the suspicion being thrown back and forth I would have been found. The MrZentor-case was easy at least, I´ve had a lot of practice lynching unhelpfull townies

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Sweden3280 Posts

May 06 2012 16:50 GMT

#1156

On May 06 2012 22:36 marvellosity wrote:

Show nested quote +

I rather think it's on Zentor not to behave like a douchebag

I´m agreeing with Marv here. Even if I was a townie in this game, I would still have pushed MrZentor just as hard, tunneling him until he died, not caring if he was anti-town or scum.

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Sweden3280 Posts

May 06 2012 21:07 GMT

#1165

On May 07 2012 05:40 Sbrubbles wrote:
One thing: this was a mafia victory and would have probably been so even if it went to lylo, but still, we never got to see that because a townie chose to suicide (suiciding at mylo = not playing your win con). Shouldn't self voting be disallowed, at least in these circumstances?

I´m not complaining.

Still, tricky situation. Generally weird stunts should be allowed to play out, because otherwise we can get info about the game by wether or not the GM steps in. If the GM steps in and disqualifies the lynch because Phagga was playing against his wincon, then we know Phagga is Town. WBG could have ruled a no-lynch then modkilled Phagga, but that wouldn´t change the end-result.