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PaqMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1475 Posts
April 30 2012 01:39 GMT
#1927
Yepp yepp. Placing my vote on Ottox.
Town's next best lynch after him would have to be BM, imo.
t(ツ)t
PaqMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1475 Posts
April 30 2012 02:35 GMT
#1932
On April 30 2012 11:28 Bill Murray wrote:
this town...
really?
I guess I can't complain, considering what I've been doing all game.


Are you scum?
t(ツ)t
PaqMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1475 Posts
April 30 2012 21:50 GMT
#1939
On April 24 2012 06:48 Bill Murray wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2012 09:14 marvellosity wrote:
VE should be banned for ragequitting.

adding marvellosity to my townreads on my power point with mattchew and that guy who asked to vig me
im going to have something for you guys tomorrow in terms of a dedicated post
see you all then


Still waiting for your dedicated post brahh
t(ツ)t
PaqMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1475 Posts
April 30 2012 21:55 GMT
#1940
On April 29 2012 13:26 BroodKingEXE wrote:

At the moment though I feel BM still has more scummy posts than Ottolxlol, so I will vote for him until I can confirm a more red read.


On April 30 2012 23:08 BroodKingEXE wrote:
Looked over Ottox's filter(again) and it just looks more and more scummy. I can't see a newbie posting like this at all and even then I don't support newbies hiding behind that fact. The case against ghost is a shaky case at best. I'm down with voting for him.
##Vote: Ottoxlol


So what made you confirm a red read on Ottox, besides his over-exaggerated newbie posting?
t(ツ)t
PaqMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1475 Posts
May 01 2012 00:57 GMT
#1955
On May 01 2012 09:51 johnnywup wrote:
I don't think Ottox is the correct lynch for today


Then who is?
t(ツ)t
PaqMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1475 Posts
May 01 2012 02:46 GMT
#1960
Hmm, I like I like. I had my suspicions D1 but they got dropped when I started going after Risen.

Ghost, can you convince me that you're town?
t(ツ)t
PaqMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1475 Posts
May 01 2012 13:15 GMT
#1995
Caught up, but I won't be able to post for another 8 hours. I don't feel comfortable letting ottox get out of a lynch again.
t(ツ)t
PaqMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1475 Posts
May 01 2012 23:06 GMT
#2036
On May 02 2012 05:17 Mattchew wrote:
sent/ghost/paq I would like to hear your reads on people


I really prefer an Ottox lynch today. After him I want to see BM lynched.
But the last scum I'm not too sure who it is. imo it's between Risen/BK/Ghost.

+ Show Spoiler [Risen] +
I was sure Risen was scum for a while, especially after the whole voteswitch ordeal. As someone pointed out by someone else, Ottox was Risen's only strong case & read this whole game, so it makes no sense for him to change his vote during the last minutes. However, Risen started redeeming himself in my eyes, starting with this post: + Show Spoiler +
On April 30 2012 04:04 Risen wrote:
I come back expecting Ottox or me to be gone. Instead town has somehow managed to vote for someone else. Makes perfect sense. Also, LOL at the mafia losing a goon, that's hilarious. Post-game talk is gonna be titled "When Lurking Goes Wrong". Anyways, I had given up but now there's a serious chance we could win. I'll actually post cases shortly before day post (which is at 5PM PST correct?). I've missed so much b/c I pretty much was resigned to posting/voting to avoid modkill, I have a lot to read.

I'm laughing so hard at scum fail right now.


+ Show Spoiler [BK] +

IDK what to really make of BK.
+ Show Spoiler +
On April 29 2012 13:26 BroodKingEXE wrote:
First on Risen:
Beginning of the game is fine to me acts pretty town. Then he gets caught in a lie and proceeds to be a dick about it. Then he has the vote switch. Now he is lurking, and making excuses. The problem I have with voting for him is that his latest posts look more townie, he's being honestly productive. The main case against him (gonzaw's, although townie) is shaky, and has painted him as scum. The vote switch is suspicious, but fits with his posting tone afterwards. Considering he made he the first case against Ottoxlol (he was ninja'ed by paq i'd call it a tie for first) it doesn't really fit in terms of both of them being scum. Conclusion: town

Next on Ottolxlol:
He starts off with shaky cases and proceeds to start to go after everyone. Funny that he was digging in so hard on VE, but pretty easily goes for BJ in the end. His pages 3 1/2 - 6 provide little reasoning, and are mostly response to others posts and reiterations of his own posts. Page 7 sees a transition into a bit more reasoned posts. I think that they have a towny vibe though, but the action of posting that many one-liners could be consdired scummy. He hasn't been posting very much about his actually reads, which makes me think he is a null-red read.

At the moment though I feel BM still has more scummy posts than Ottolxlol, so I will vote for him until I can confirm a more red read.


I don't like that last part. The lynch was between MG and Ottox, and he completely avoided taking a side by wasting his vote on BM.


+ Show Spoiler +
On April 26 2012 04:45 BroodKingEXE wrote:
Can someone point out to me why all this suspicion about Ottoxlol? I'm having trouble finding any big cases against him. His earlier posts look fine to me.


On April 30 2012 23:08 BroodKingEXE wrote:
Looked over Ottox's filter(again) and it just looks more and more scummy. I can't see a newbie posting like this at all and even then I don't support newbies hiding behind that fact. The case against ghost is a shaky case at best. I'm down with voting for him.
##Vote: Ottoxlol


This change of heart also bothers me.


I can't get a good read on BK. I don't see what connects him with scum but I don't have a good gut-feeling on him. He's a possible lynch after BM.


+ Show Spoiler [Ghost] +

After reading through johnny's case against Ghost, it sounded good. But after reading through it a few more times, johnny's points against Ghost aren't very good.

On May 01 2012 10:57 johnnywup wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2012 01:28 ghost_403 wrote:
I think a BM lynch is a terrible idea (vig shout would be fine though). I don't think I've ever seen a case where a ninja vote was due to someone being scum. There's too much risk and no reward for scum in this situation. I think he's just insane.

I really don't like the fact that Sentinel immediately jumped on the lynch BM bandwagon. Trying to lynch insane players is scummy in my book. Same goes for you Mattchew. Why would scum even try to ninja vote? It makes way more sense to sheep instead. No one would have thought twice if BM had shown up in thread and said "lol VE scum ##vote VE".

VE's claim is bad. He's doing the same thing that he did in TLM LI in claiming when there's no reason to. I can't imagine scum VE doing the same thing twice, but now we're into WIFOM territory. In addition, JK is the only nonconfirmable role in the game. A vig shot shows up in the day post, and a tracker can confirm where someone went that night. It only makes sense that scum VE would claim JK.


I've said I think BM is scum. So this stuff makes perfect sense. Soft defending his scum mate, and attacking townies (who we now know are indeed townies)


As you can see on the date of Ghost's post (Apr. 23), the game had just recently started. I can agree that lynching a lurker when the game just started isn't that great of an idea.

I don't see much else that incriminates Ghost as scummy. I'd prefer him last out of Risen and BK.


After lynching Ottox and BM I can see it coming down to them. However, the possibility of the last remaining scum should not be limited to these three. As the days go on more interesting events will happen and we all need to keep an eye on each other. No one is guaranteed Town.
t(ツ)t
PaqMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1475 Posts
May 01 2012 23:08 GMT
#2037
Except for Sentinel, seeing as no one counter-claimed, lol..
t(ツ)t
PaqMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1475 Posts
May 01 2012 23:16 GMT
#2040
On May 02 2012 08:13 johnnywup wrote:
Well, BM "counter claimed" with vig then was like nvm im green. So I don't count that.

Ok, why don't we just lynch BM, if you think BM is scum too? Why does ottox have to be today? We have 50 minutes left and I think we can change the lynch to BM in that time. I don't like how many votes are on ottox despite me thinking he's scum, like I said, which makes me like a BM lynch more. I get that we'll still be talking about ottox tomorrow but he's not a goon so even if we do lynch him we're at the same place tomorrow. (-1 townie, -1scum, unless Sentinel JK's correctly, but he'll most likely be killed anyways). If we lynch the Goon we're in a good position. If we lynch the GF we're in about the same position.


I really don't feel comfortable switching my vote off Ottox AGAIN and letting him slip past a lynch for 3 days in a row.
t(ツ)t
PaqMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1475 Posts
May 01 2012 23:18 GMT
#2045
@Risen, Sent claimed JK. There's only 1 blue role left and no one has counter-claimed.
t(ツ)t
PaqMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1475 Posts
May 01 2012 23:20 GMT
#2048
Then where does BM come into play? He's scum
t(ツ)t
PaqMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1475 Posts
May 01 2012 23:21 GMT
#2050
And with 3 scum left and few townies, I don't think scum would risk their own just to fish out a blue.
t(ツ)t
PaqMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1475 Posts
May 01 2012 23:33 GMT
#2067
Yeah, Sent could not have planned, as scum, to claim JK since D1. I'm sure sentinel's claim is true.
t(ツ)t
PaqMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1475 Posts
May 01 2012 23:35 GMT
#2075
Risen please save your posts for tonight then. The more your posting the more you are looking scummy to me. It's helping town IN NO WAY AT ALL that you're bringing in this sudden surge of confusion right before the lynch deadline.
t(ツ)t
PaqMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1475 Posts
May 01 2012 23:39 GMT
#2083
So much WIFOM
t(ツ)t
PaqMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1475 Posts
May 01 2012 23:43 GMT
#2089
On May 02 2012 08:40 johnnywup wrote:
anyways risen BKEXE is probably gonna be modkilled anyways.

whats wifom about this at all paqman?


Uhhhh idk, Risen's entire theory about Sentinel lying about is claim and is actually scum?
Sure it's a possibility but I just don't see it being true. Plus it really looks like Risen is trying to save ottox AGAIN by fishing votes off of him and onto BK, without telling us what makes BK 100% scum.
t(ツ)t
PaqMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1475 Posts
May 01 2012 23:44 GMT
#2093
johnny I hope that was a redundant question.
t(ツ)t
PaqMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1475 Posts
May 01 2012 23:47 GMT
#2100
Ottox can you please actually try to convince me to take my vote off of you instead of mocking us like scum?...
t(ツ)t
PaqMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1475 Posts
May 02 2012 00:17 GMT
#2138
Looks like everyone was wrong.
t(ツ)t
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