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PaqMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1475 Posts
April 28 2012 04:30 GMT
#1803
Hellooo
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PaqMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1475 Posts
April 28 2012 04:49 GMT
#1805
I think BM would be a good candidate as well. Scum goals aren't necessarily to survive, but to survive long enough to force town to make errors. So far he's been able to survive by doing the bare minimum, while we've managed to lynch two townies.

+ Show Spoiler [Bill Murray] +
On April 23 2012 16:32 Bill Murray wrote:
Oh, and Mattchew, the reason I play is because I love the game
Just because I like to coast by D1 sometimes doesn't mean I'm not going to be posting more on subsequent days. We're in the early phase. There is not a single game where I drastically help the town that I'm not wagonned d1, after all scum find me an easy mislynch.


He's about to coast by his 3rd day. He's picked up the activity more than what it was on D1, but it is still over the bare-minimum.

On April 24 2012 06:48 Bill Murray wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2012 09:14 marvellosity wrote:
VE should be banned for ragequitting.

adding marvellosity to my townreads on my power point with mattchew and that guy who asked to vig me
im going to have something for you guys tomorrow in terms of a dedicated post
see you all then


It has been 3 days since this post.
BM I would like to see this power point that you have.

On April 27 2012 10:55 Bill Murray wrote:
I've had an important day in real life. Sorry I haven't been as active as I'd like.

If I do not make it into tomorrow, I would like to out my townreads:

Layabout
Mattchew
Mementoss
Janaan
Marvelosity
Paqman

Scum:
Ottoxlul
St.Daniel
JohnnyWup


This is BM's only contribution and even then it barely gives us any insight.


I would be cool with lynching BM.
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PaqMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1475 Posts
April 28 2012 07:06 GMT
#1807
On April 25 2012 11:58 Janaan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2012 11:20 marvellosity wrote:
I'd like a couple of other people to answer on Sentinel too (jdub, BM as you're here for a change)

Sentinel is still scummy to me right now, at the moment, though, I'd prefer a Zepherrd or Ottoxlol lynch today. Sentinel has slowly started looking better with his last couple posts, so I suppose he does have that going for him.


On April 25 2012 14:39 Janaan wrote:
Voting before I go to bed. In keeping with my prior suspicions:
##Vote: Zepherrd
I'll be back on tomorrow a few hours before the deadline. Start consolidating those votes, right now we have them FAR too spread out. It would be too easy for scum to force a no lynch if things stay the way they are.


You said in the first post you'd rather have Zepherdd or Ottoxlol lynched. So what made you choose Zepherdd over Ottox?

And what made you change your mind about BM? You seemed content with voting him D1.

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PaqMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1475 Posts
April 28 2012 17:16 GMT
#1825
BK, what do you think about Ottox and Risen?
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PaqMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1475 Posts
April 28 2012 21:55 GMT
#1842
I have not read laya or sloosh's case on MG until you posted them and they've shed some light in my eyes.
Especially after what happened yesterday I want to see Ottox flip but after reading all that MG looks to be more scummier.
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PaqMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1475 Posts
April 28 2012 22:23 GMT
#1844
I'm going to place my vote on MG.
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PaqMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1475 Posts
April 29 2012 00:19 GMT
#1849
So that's why he stayed in this game but not the other!
I'm disappointed in myself. Should have voted Ottox...
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PaqMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1475 Posts
April 29 2012 00:22 GMT
#1852
Yepp, only one of us will die tonight.
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PaqMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1475 Posts
April 29 2012 00:23 GMT
#1853
BM are you going to help out town or keep posting to avoid being modkilled?
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PaqMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1475 Posts
April 29 2012 01:14 GMT
#1860
On April 29 2012 10:10 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Okay. The good news is that we're not one day away from LyLo anymore. We might even live to a whole week if the game goes on that long. However, I'm still nervous that Ottoxlol survived not one, but TWO lynches. We need to kill him.


We should have lynched Ottox. MG was going to be modkilled anyways so our lynch was wasted.
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PaqMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1475 Posts
April 29 2012 01:27 GMT
#1863
What do you mean unsportsmanlike? Why waste a lynch if he's going to be modkilled regardless?
I know there's no way we could have known that MG wasn't going to vote. I'm just saying that if we used our lynch on Ottox it wouldn't have been wasted.
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PaqMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1475 Posts
April 29 2012 01:34 GMT
#1866
I also don't like how Sentinel completely dropped off our radar after Gonzaw died. He was Gonzaw's biggest scumread.
Sentinel Case

^Everyone please read through it.
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PaqMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1475 Posts
April 29 2012 02:03 GMT
#1868
You do make some valid points, I just don't like how you slipped from everyone's view. Especially since a few people like jdub and Ghost had a FoS on you.
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PaqMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1475 Posts
April 29 2012 02:10 GMT
#1869
EBWOP: wanted to point this out

On April 27 2012 12:26 St.Daniel wrote:
It's ok, iGrok. I hope your job interview went well. I swear I didn't think Mementoss would die. Also, we don't have Vig? That's rather unfortunate, because we spent good chunk of first day talking about it (leading up to VE's claim). My guess are now MG, Sentinel, Mattchew and PaqMan.


St. D's scum read in bold. Despite the fact that he voted for BM and thought it was "the most beneficial for town", BM was not put on St. D's final read. I think it's a possibility that either he listed townies or one of his scumbuddies. Tried looking through the rest of his filter and there's not much else to work with, seeing as he was really inactive this whole game.
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PaqMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1475 Posts
April 29 2012 04:34 GMT
#1872
On April 29 2012 13:26 BroodKingEXE wrote:
First on Risen:
Beginning of the game is fine to me acts pretty town. Then he gets caught in a lie and proceeds to be a dick about it. Then he has the vote switch. Now he is lurking, and making excuses. The problem I have with voting for him is that his latest posts look more townie, he's being honestly productive. The main case against him (gonzaw's, although townie) is shaky, and has painted him as scum. The vote switch is suspicious, but fits with his posting tone afterwards. Considering he made he the first case against Ottoxlol (he was ninja'ed by paq i'd call it a tie for first) it doesn't really fit in terms of both of them being scum. Conclusion: town

Next on Ottolxlol:
He starts off with shaky cases and proceeds to start to go after everyone. Funny that he was digging in so hard on VE, but pretty easily goes for BJ in the end. His pages 3 1/2 - 6 provide little reasoning, and are mostly response to others posts and reiterations of his own posts. Page 7 sees a transition into a bit more reasoned posts. I think that they have a towny vibe though, but the action of posting that many one-liners could be consdired scummy. He hasn't been posting very much about his actually reads, which makes me think he is a null-red read.

At the moment though I feel BM still has more scummy posts than Ottolxlol, so I will vote for him until I can confirm a more red read.


What are you talking about? What lie? I don't recall Risen getting ninja'd by me.
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PaqMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1475 Posts
April 29 2012 17:18 GMT
#1886
On April 30 2012 00:52 Ottoxlol wrote:
ghost soft defending StD

Show nested quote +
On April 24 2012 23:29 ghost_403 wrote:
StDaniel is en route to being modkilled. If he comes back and does nothing, I will discuss him as a possible lynch candidate. Since he's not even playing, there's no point in pushing for his lynch.

Paqman's attacking BM for lurking, mentions BK, doesnt mention StD apart from two very soft defenses. He mentions that we waste d3 discussion on stupid speculation, but doesnt contribute a thing.
.


I mentioned that we don't do stupid speculation. I also posted these:
+ Show Spoiler +
On April 28 2012 11:53 PaqMan wrote:
+ Show Spoiler [ottox] +
On April 25 2012 08:03 Ottoxlol wrote:
Risen
gonzaws case against him
He tried to defend VE, but with not the best tools

Show nested quote +
On April 24 2012 08:18 gonzaw wrote:
He just opposes the VE lynch for the sake of opposing it, and seems to ignore everything else that had to do with VE and VE's behaviour. It makes it seem like he wouldn't even care about VE at all and only cared about opposing his lynch.


After that he starts to rally people to other candidates (marv/bm). He explained that he did FoS these people only because they had votes on them so it would have been easier to get ahead of VE.

I think his reasoning is clear, I find him town.



On April 26 2012 08:52 Ottoxlol wrote:
So its seems like ill get lynched, ill post my thoughts

MG + Risen are most likely scum.

Zeph Sent Mementoss laya are my other candidates.

Zeph had some very strange logic and posts

Sent is getting better, but the VE lynch is still there.

Mementoss said his problem with me that i did not scumhunt at all, I posted the case on VE d1, d2 I tried to be helpful, posted case, took a stance, he did not lift his vote contrary to his post.

laya stated that i am most likely town, zeph is maybe then he voted me for the kill.


On April 27 2012 03:55 Ottoxlol wrote:
Risen: he is more likely a townie that made a mistake with his swap, I don't see why a scum would do anything like this

Brood: since it was a double town vote I doubt that a scum would wait for the last minute, its good for them anyway, why wait?


Ottox's play is off. The quick switch in opinion? Scummy.

On April 27 2012 04:51 Ottoxlol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2012 04:35 layabout wrote:
ghost you may want to do some redirecting:
JK's stay the hell away from ottox, if you want to block a goon go for BK (or maybe MG) instead.
Vig's shoot the crap out of ottox. When he flips red we will be in a great position. On the outside chance that he flips green then we will know we are on the wrong track.
Trackers on Risen or BK or MG.


If I am scum, BK is town. If he were scum he would have voted before mat and laya so I wouldve lived without Risens help.


On April 27 2012 05:10 Ottoxlol wrote:
I pointed out that is a mistake in his argument. I think BK is town. If JK/Tracker thinks I am scum, pointing out the uselessness of tracking or jailing BK is good.


On April 27 2012 05:16 Ottoxlol wrote:
no, he says to jail and or track BK when if I am scum its worthless since that would mean BK is town.


On April 27 2012 05:21 Ottoxlol wrote:
If you think i am 100% scum then BK is town. the votes were 7 6 for Zeph at 07:26, plenty of time till the deadline with you and Matt saying you will vote for me. If he would have been scum he could easily voted before you guys (08:36) making the Risen switch unnecessary


hardcore defense of BK. I think he's trying to incriminate BK, if ottox flips scum. I don't see a reason for Ottox to defend BK more than he's defending himself.


Am I the only one who thinks that ottox's posting has gotten worst?
Page 1
compared to:
Page 6

I know it's sad, this is all I could come up with. I wrote up spoilers on BK and MG but they got deleted. So here's a watered-down copy of it.

+ Show Spoiler [MG] +
On April 27 2012 14:28 MidnightGladius wrote:
I haven't been giving this game the attention I should, between cohosting, work, and term papers. I can see that my play this game was been really lacking, and I just haven't been feeling my reads. I've been hedging my posts, because I honestly haven't felt the same kind of conviction with my cases.

That said, mislynching me will cost us the game. You're just going to have to trust me. The fact that a bunch of townies have been pushing for me is disheartening, but I'm sure that you will find scum trying to hammer me today.


If you couldn't commit as much as you wanted to, why would you sign up for the game? I know that real life kicks in and unexpected things happen, but come on dude /:

That said, mislynching me will cost us the game. You're just going to have to trust me.

That's asking a lot, considering what you've given us the past few days. Town's goal is to kill scum and win, and you haven't been helping us. Instead of telling us that lynching you will lose Town the game, why don't you start trying to make us reconsider your alignment?

The fact that a bunch of townies have been pushing for me is disheartening,


yes, most people have tagged you as part of the scum team. So why aren't you doing anything to prove us wrong??? Why aren't you doing anything to convince us otherwise?? Your posts at the beginning of the game were well-thought and nicely put together, but the quality has dropped since.

If it is so "disheartening" to you then please do something to change my mind.


+ Show Spoiler [BK] +
Before I looked up on him I was suspicious of BK as scum though I'm not sure why. After reading through BK's filter with a scum point-of-view, it didn't make much sense to me. He hasn't pushed forward any type of scum agenda or anything to incriminate him as scummy. His posts have been pretty consistent with each other as well.


So far I think our lynch is between Ottox and Risen.

+ Show Spoiler +
On April 28 2012 13:49 PaqMan wrote:
I think BM would be a good candidate as well. Scum goals aren't necessarily to survive, but to survive long enough to force town to make errors. So far he's been able to survive by doing the bare minimum, while we've managed to lynch two townies.

+ Show Spoiler [Bill Murray] +
On April 23 2012 16:32 Bill Murray wrote:
Oh, and Mattchew, the reason I play is because I love the game
Just because I like to coast by D1 sometimes doesn't mean I'm not going to be posting more on subsequent days. We're in the early phase. There is not a single game where I drastically help the town that I'm not wagonned d1, after all scum find me an easy mislynch.


He's about to coast by his 3rd day. He's picked up the activity more than what it was on D1, but it is still over the bare-minimum.

On April 24 2012 06:48 Bill Murray wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2012 09:14 marvellosity wrote:
VE should be banned for ragequitting.

adding marvellosity to my townreads on my power point with mattchew and that guy who asked to vig me
im going to have something for you guys tomorrow in terms of a dedicated post
see you all then


It has been 3 days since this post.
BM I would like to see this power point that you have.

On April 27 2012 10:55 Bill Murray wrote:
I've had an important day in real life. Sorry I haven't been as active as I'd like.

If I do not make it into tomorrow, I would like to out my townreads:

Layabout
Mattchew
Mementoss
Janaan
Marvelosity
Paqman

Scum:
Ottoxlul
St.Daniel
JohnnyWup


This is BM's only contribution and even then it barely gives us any insight.


I would be cool with lynching BM.


Not much I know, but you can't say I didn't contribute anything. The fact that I hardly mentioned StD is because I bought his food poisoning excuse. It makes sense now why he dropped out the other game instead of this one.
And if you really looked through my filter instead of summarizing the past few days, you'd know that I quickly lashed out at StD. here: + Show Spoiler +
On April 27 2012 08:52 PaqMan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2012 08:51 St.Daniel wrote:
On April 27 2012 07:42 johnnywup wrote:
i dont think anyone persons flip confirms any other person as scum or town, it may increase odds but i don't think that that should be a basis for getting reads on people -.-


I agree. We should also consider who someone voted with. For sample, if 2 or more people casted the lynch vote on same person for multiple lynches, thst's something we need to take a look at. Note that my theory doesn't work 100% of times but it is something to think about.


Where the hell have you been, and what was up with that ninja vote


And why would I want to lynch a dude that's not even playing when there's clearly better options?




Ottox you never explained yourself to us. You keep saying that you think Risen is scum, then you say he's town, then you say he's scum again. WTF is up with your posting.

On April 28 2012 11:53 PaqMan wrote:
+ Show Spoiler [ottox] +
On April 25 2012 08:03 Ottoxlol wrote:
Risen
gonzaws case against him
He tried to defend VE, but with not the best tools

Show nested quote +
On April 24 2012 08:18 gonzaw wrote:
He just opposes the VE lynch for the sake of opposing it, and seems to ignore everything else that had to do with VE and VE's behaviour. It makes it seem like he wouldn't even care about VE at all and only cared about opposing his lynch.


After that he starts to rally people to other candidates (marv/bm). He explained that he did FoS these people only because they had votes on them so it would have been easier to get ahead of VE.

I think his reasoning is clear, I find him town.



On April 26 2012 08:52 Ottoxlol wrote:
So its seems like ill get lynched, ill post my thoughts

MG + Risen are most likely scum.

Zeph Sent Mementoss laya are my other candidates.

Zeph had some very strange logic and posts

Sent is getting better, but the VE lynch is still there.

Mementoss said his problem with me that i did not scumhunt at all, I posted the case on VE d1, d2 I tried to be helpful, posted case, took a stance, he did not lift his vote contrary to his post.

laya stated that i am most likely town, zeph is maybe then he voted me for the kill.


On April 27 2012 03:55 Ottoxlol wrote:
Risen: he is more likely a townie that made a mistake with his swap, I don't see why a scum would do anything like this

Brood: since it was a double town vote I doubt that a scum would wait for the last minute, its good for them anyway, why wait?


Ottox's play is off. The quick switch in opinion? Scummy.

On April 27 2012 04:51 Ottoxlol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2012 04:35 layabout wrote:
ghost you may want to do some redirecting:
JK's stay the hell away from ottox, if you want to block a goon go for BK (or maybe MG) instead.
Vig's shoot the crap out of ottox. When he flips red we will be in a great position. On the outside chance that he flips green then we will know we are on the wrong track.
Trackers on Risen or BK or MG.


If I am scum, BK is town. If he were scum he would have voted before mat and laya so I wouldve lived without Risens help.


On April 27 2012 05:10 Ottoxlol wrote:
I pointed out that is a mistake in his argument. I think BK is town. If JK/Tracker thinks I am scum, pointing out the uselessness of tracking or jailing BK is good.


On April 27 2012 05:16 Ottoxlol wrote:
no, he says to jail and or track BK when if I am scum its worthless since that would mean BK is town.


On April 27 2012 05:21 Ottoxlol wrote:
If you think i am 100% scum then BK is town. the votes were 7 6 for Zeph at 07:26, plenty of time till the deadline with you and Matt saying you will vote for me. If he would have been scum he could easily voted before you guys (08:36) making the Risen switch unnecessary


hardcore defense of BK. I think he's trying to incriminate BK, if ottox flips scum. I don't see a reason for Ottox to defend BK more than he's defending himself.
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PaqMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1475 Posts
April 29 2012 17:22 GMT
#1887
yeah I feel so stupid for voting MG over Ottox. When tomorrow comes Ottox has to be lynched.
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PaqMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1475 Posts
April 30 2012 01:29 GMT
#1921
On April 30 2012 09:37 johnnywup wrote:
hey guys im eliminated from the tournament so i have a few moments to look over the thread.

first off: do you have proof sentinel? I believe you but I'd like proof just in case

Ottox is confirmed Not Goon from sentinels. I think we should aim for goons before GFs, even if we have confirmed scum. GFs are useless at this stage for scum, we don't have a vig so they don't have any real powers. We need to aim for the KP before we kill the GFs, imo.

So if anyone has any idea who the Goon is, we should lynch that person.


Haven't read the rest of the page but WTF. You cannot possibly be serious right now.

First off, how can you so easily believe Sentinel's claim.
Secondly, how can you possibly be certain that Ottox isn't goon
Thirdly, Ottox has escaped our lynch TWICE. I'm not going to let it happen a third time.
Fourthly, I'm not going to lynch someone that may or may not be scum over an obvious one that's chillin right in front of us.
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PaqMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1475 Posts
April 30 2012 01:31 GMT
#1922
EBWOP: Forgot we only had one blue. Sentinel's claim is true.
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PaqMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1475 Posts
April 30 2012 01:35 GMT
#1924
@Risen

On April 30 2012 10:31 PaqMan wrote:
EBWOP: Forgot we only had one blue. Sentinel's claim is true.

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