TL Mafia 'Area' LIII - Page 2

ghost_403

United States1825 Posts

April 22 2012 22:03 GMT

#654

@johnnywup: I have no idea why you thought a few hours before the lynch was a good time to bring forward another lynch candidate. Seriously?

I'm not really seeing why Risen is scum. Sure, he's loud, obnoxious and belligerent, but that doesn't say anything about his alignment.

I'm still pretty happy with a VE lynch. I thought he was scum before he claimed, and I don't buy his claim. Even if his claim is true, he's functioning in an anti-town manner. Also, I'm surprised that no one has brought up the point that he's pretty much ragequit.

Marvellosity is still posting nothing of content. I'd be down with that lynch.

ghost_403

United States1825 Posts

April 22 2012 22:09 GMT

#658

Johnny's lurking like a bawse.

@Johnnywup: Your lynch isn't going to happen today. Who's your next choice?

ghost_403

United States1825 Posts

April 22 2012 22:13 GMT

#661

On April 23 2012 05:33 Risen wrote:
Honestly johnnywup is my biggest scumread atm Pac. I have no idea why he thinks forwarding another lynch candidate at the last second is a good idea, and it just shits up the thread. Do we take the case against him seriously? Do we try and organize everyone to swap their votes over to zeph even though no one else has mentioned zeph as a serious candidate thus far? We can't do that, we don't have the time.

I know I was against it before, but I don't see how marvel could be pushing a lynch on VE right now. We can't lynch our claimed JK. It's been stated in the thread but I'll state it again. You don't lynch a claimed doctor, and we shouldn't lynch the closest thing we have to a doctor. Is it possible VE is lying? Yup. He might be lying and be a vigi, or a tracker, or scum, or vanilla. Doesn't matter. The only shitty thing is that the person who is jailed doesn't know they were jailed, so I don't know how to confirm his claim.

Regardless, a vote on VE is stupid. It's just like everyone who voted for me when I claimed a guaranteed sane detective with a red check. Only an idiot would vote for said blue unless it was LYLO. It's applicable here. We can't lynch someone who claims such a powerful blue role right now. Is it a shitty claim? Yeah. I don't think it was smart, but we have to roll with it now that it's in the open. Any trackers watch him, I guess.

I'm voting marvel. Pre-EBWOP I just looked at the voting thread prior to hitting post. What the hell is going on? How can you lynch a claimed blue? This is so stupid. If need be I'll vote BM b/c I'm all for lynching someone who's being useless, but for now my vote is resting on marvel.

##vote marvellosity

On April 23 2012 07:10 Risen wrote:

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No one is going to pay attention to you. You're an idiot. WHAT WAGON DID I JUMP ON. I never even placed my vote on marv. Go look at the voting thread. derpderpderp, I'm hurrdurrPaq, I don't actually read anything, I just jump on Gonzaw's case, say I'm going to be away, but actually never leave when Risen comes to defend himself.

ghost_403

United States1825 Posts

April 22 2012 22:15 GMT

#665

On April 23 2012 06:29 Risen wrote:
I haven't even placed my vote on marv yet >.> It is my intention to do so, though. Everyone on VE should be shot/lynched. I'll vote for anyone on him. Only an idiot would vote for VE and we're better off with all of them dead.

ghost_403

United States1825 Posts

April 22 2012 22:15 GMT

#667

BlazingJitsu, you down with a Risen lynch?

ghost_403

United States1825 Posts

April 23 2012 09:40 GMT

#830

[obligitory post]

I'll be traveling for the rest of the day, more or less. I'm going to try to get on while I've got some downtime inbetween flights, but no promises. Hopefully, I can be on for a bit tonight.

ghost_403

United States1825 Posts

April 23 2012 16:43 GMT

#840

@mementoss: I made my position very clear on my vote. If I had believed my vote was necessary to achieve a VE lynch, i would have switched. Accusing me of trying to spoil a lynch that was a sure thing is disingenuous.

ghost_403

United States1825 Posts

April 24 2012 02:26 GMT

#972

Marv. Please flip town. Plzplzplzplzplzplz.

Time to catch up on the thread. brb

FYI, my plan for catching up on the thread means reading to everything past the night post, then returning through the events of Day 1. Probably going to take a while, but I'm not going to bed until I post something constructive. I'm a bawse like that.

ghost_403

United States1825 Posts

April 24 2012 03:05 GMT

#979

Ugh. I have stuff I want to say, but I'm with Gonzaw. I don't want to post during twilight. Just feels wrong

When day hits, I'll post what I think is still relevant.

ghost_403

United States1825 Posts

April 24 2012 03:05 GMT

#980

ebwop: sloosh said that. My bad.

ghost_403

United States1825 Posts

April 24 2012 12:05 GMT

#1048

Haha, chainsaw defense. I've been giving Ottoxlol a noob pass since Day 1, but perhaps BJ is right. I'd be down with a Ottoxlol lynch.

The other thing that I don't like about Ottoxlol is the fact that he's not hunting scum at all. If you take a look through his filter, his suggestions for lynches are all lurkers. There's 50 pages in this thread, and he can't find any scum who are posting? I assumed it was due to the fact that he's a newb, but newbs roll scum too.

@ottoxlol: If you don't want me to try and get you lynched today, start hunting some scum. You want to suggest someone who isn't lurking and/or insane?

ghost_403

United States1825 Posts

April 24 2012 12:05 GMT

#1049

On April 24 2012 01:51 Mementoss wrote:

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What is the point keeping your vote on someone who is not going to get lynched? It is the same as having no vote, cause you actions have no influence on who is going to get voted out. Its a very anti-town thing to do imo. I would say anyone that was around not voting Marv BM Risen or VE, at the end of the day wasted their vote. As a result, scums 4 votes became ever more powerful in taking a blue away from us.

At the end of the day if you weren't convinced VE was scum per sae, would it not have been better to lynch someone who was vanilla rather than someone who was JK? Cause if VE wasn't red he was blue.

At the end of the day, I voted to lynch scum. (Bonus! Sentinel has done nothing to change my opinion of him thus far.)

As I said before, I would have changed my actions if there was a chance of my vote effecting (or is it affecting? lolidk) the outcome, I would have switched. I thought VE was scum, and I acted on that by choosing not to change my vote and push for someone else.

I don't really see what the problem is.

ghost_403

United States1825 Posts

April 24 2012 12:15 GMT

#1053

Another thing that I was going to note last night was the fact that Sentinel has been lurking like a bawse through this whole game. If you take a look at what he wrote last night, he more or less claimed that he was onboard the VE lynch, and that's it. Sentinel is afraid of posting in this thread, because he's afraid he'll do something to out his scumbuddies. I thought he was scum yesterday, our townie friend sloosh thought he was scum before Sentinel killed him, and I think we should be lynching him today. I'm guessing that he rolled goon, which is why he's so afraid to get caught. Scum KP should drop to 1 after we lynch Sentinel.

Let's look at Sentinel's posts from last night!

Poast 1

"I was totally onboard for the VE lynch before VE was". Who cares? What does this add to the thread? How does this help us hunt scum? MG's idea that the scum voted to lynch VE before the townies is flawed to begin with, and now he somehow wants more credit for it?

On April 24 2012 09:05 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:

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Wait... how the hell do you brand Risen green because of "town meta"? I think his aggressive-defensive bipolarity kinda ruined that aspect. If anything makes him green is that he backed VE till the end.

Scum love making townie reads, because it saves them the trouble of scum hunting. You have nothing to say about the fact that Mattchew thinks you're scum? I'd be pissed if I ended up red on that list.

On April 24 2012 09:26 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
I'm in Star Battle so I won't make the deadline. I'll probably post some once I'm done, closer to 14:00 GMT (+00:00)

"I'm going to give myself an excuse not to post so I can avoid scumslipping."

On April 24 2012 10:41 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Fuck, have to push back my reply to tomorrow early morning.

See above.

On April 24 2012 10:43 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
I'm posting exactly seven hours from now. I think I'll make it.

See above.

There's no reason for a townie to have this little content in the game. One post with a decent thought is all I ask for. Just one. One post where I can look back and agree or disagree with what you have to say. Instead, this. Nothing of content. The lack of content from Sentinel is due to the fact that's he's terrified of being caught.

That's 'cause Sentinel rolled scum.

##vote [UoN]Sentinel

ghost_403

United States1825 Posts

April 24 2012 12:16 GMT

#1054

I've got another busy day ahead of me. I'm hoping to have some time to play again tonight. If you have any questions for me, make sure I can find them, and I'll address them when I can. Sorry again for the lack of time I've had to play this

ghost_403

United States1825 Posts

April 24 2012 14:29 GMT

#1080

StDaniel is en route to being modkilled. If he comes back and does nothing, I will discuss him as a possible lynch candidate. Since he's not even playing, there's no point in pushing for his lynch.

@marv: Ottoxlol's posting history shows him posting outside the TLMafia subforum, so I'm leaning newbie on him. However, some of the stuff that I've seen him do in thread has made me think he's "newbie scum" as opposed to "newbie town". BJ's (lol) case addresses some of that. I really need to work on reading newbie towns, so that is something I think I would like to work on.

ghost_403

United States1825 Posts

April 24 2012 14:31 GMT

#1081

Also, I'm in tears because now, even if Marv does flips town, I might not get to see blzinghand eat his hat T_T

ghost_403

United States1825 Posts

April 24 2012 17:17 GMT

#1108

@ottoxlol: You're under attack for not making any cases or trying to lynch lurkers because that's what scum do. Townies need to lynch scum, scum need to waste time. Not making cases and pushing to lynch lurkers is the best way for scum to do that. Newbies often do the same thing, which is the only reason I haven't tried to put you on the gallows quite yet. But, Mementoss is right: it's getting harder to give you a pass for being a noob.

I think I've got enough time to respond to your previous post now. I'll post that in a minute.

ghost_403

United States1825 Posts

April 24 2012 17:33 GMT

#1112

I think BJ nailed it when he posted this:

On April 24 2012 18:40 BlazingJitsu wrote:
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This says absolutely nothing. This is Ottoxlol trying to push people who were on the VE wagon with some unhelpful WIFOM. Paying close attention to this post, you'll realize he doesn't actually push anyone as scum. This is unhelpful shitty dick play. This is scum play that he set up D1. This is Ottoxlol trying to pool the proverbial wool over the town's eyes by trying to appear helpful.

[...]

You're recapping what happened the previous day in an effort to post something of content. It's not. We're playing the game, we know what happened, we don't need you to tell us this. Instead, we need you to post stuff that we don't already know, like who you think is scum and why.

Your response to this:

I wrote that I don't have a good read that's why i did not push. I started to look into the names that came up and I felt none of them was convincing so I made a post that maybe can help others. How is that anti-town?

It's useless. Lists of what happened are useless. Being useless is anti-town. That's why it's anti-town. We need you scumhunting, and that's not what you're doing.

It's very easy to understand how a new player would make this mistake, and again, that's why I haven't pushed you onto the gallows yet. But, as we're continuing to play, it's obvious that you're still not contributing, and it's getting harder for me to distinguish between newbie town and newbie scum. I'm pretty sure someone wrote a guide on this exact thing somewhere, and I fully intend to bring it up when I get a chance.

On April 25 2012 02:20 Ottoxlol wrote:
but ghost, no one made any case but Mementoss and MG

So everyone else is scum? Or we don't have any reads because no one is suspicious enough? Thats why everyone thinking on lynching lurkers or me.

Not everyone has pushed no reads. We're not talking about just today, we're talking about the course of the entire game. You really haven't pushed anything the whole game (Asserted WithOut Proof - AWOP). So, no. I don't think they are all scum. Just the ones who post nothing while trying to look useful.

ghost_403

United States1825 Posts

April 24 2012 17:45 GMT

#1116

@Ottoxlol: Stop insisting that you did stuff and start doing stuff. I'm going to push for a Sentinel lynch today. I think he's rolled scum goon, and I want him out of the game. If how you're acting doesn't change after tomorrow night, I'm going to try and lynch you.

ghost_403

United States1825 Posts

April 24 2012 17:57 GMT

#1122

@mattchew: I see a newb doing something stupid, and I feel bad. Can't help it. What do you think? Newb or scum?

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