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On April 26 2012 10:59 Mementoss wrote: That was, really, awkward. I was thinking of changing my vote to Zeph because of how I felt he was posting in the thread and how ottoxol was acting, but then I realized it was a heat in the thread thought. Damn guys. I donèt know what to think about Risen right now though. That being said still, if we have a vig shoot into this: Marvellosity BillMurray layabout Sentinel Ottoxlol I would really like a shot into Ottoxlol. If he comes up scum it makes Riven look really bad, if not Riven is sorta cleared as townie mistake. If he doesnèt die, hes GF and we lynch him next day. If vig DOES shoot, donèt forget to claim. Hey just wondering do you guys think this is a breadcrumb? Looking over our dead townies posts I haven't found that much on St. Daniels, but there seems to be a general suspicion about him. Mem seemed to dig pretty hard into him. | ||
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On April 27 2012 07:35 PaqMan wrote: Yeah, seeing as St. D was sick and dropped out of his other game, I think that dude's just inactive. I'd rather have Ottox or Risen lynched over BM. But BM hasn't done anything helpful so I'm not sure what we should do about him. Why is he still in this game then? He chose to secretly vote for Zephirdd in order to stay in the game. If he was really an inactive he would have stuck to his guns and quit this game too. That's why I think he is a lurking scum, sure he was sick for a time, but him staying doesn't make sense. | ||
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On April 28 2012 20:28 Bill Murray wrote: p.s. since when was mementoss a tracker? here I have been thinking we're in a good position fucking disheartening Wow so scummy, so far we've had 7 townies killed and 1 blue (according to you -_-). Great position!!!! (sarcasm intended) You're going to die for this: ##Vote: Bill Murray | ||
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On April 28 2012 20:27 Bill Murray wrote: I disagree with you about Risen + Ottox not being scum together, and so did Mementoss. Guess where he is? Oh, yeah, dead. Are you crazy?! Mementoss is dead why are talking to him!!! | ||
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@johnny: This is why: On April 24 2012 14:25 Bill Murray wrote: I am not going to be wagoning paqman today and I will vote the next person to vote for him He has been jumping around with his accusations the whole game without digging hard into any one case. I felt his posting started to look better toward the middle of page 2 of his filter, but these last two posts are very scummy. St. Daniels has been lurking, but the way he is doing it is really bothering me (behind our backs Zeph vote). No one is willing to pay attention to him due to how inactive (alledgedly) he is. This is a perfect cover for a lurking Mafia in my mind. Lurking isn't good, it is a very pro-mafia behavior. I have seen posts from these lurkers that further reinforce my suspicions. If we don't look at their posts due to thinking their "too easy" targets we will never be able to find Mafia. I am looking at others posts, but as far as I can see these two are the most scummy. | ||
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Beginning of the game is fine to me acts pretty town. Then he gets caught in a lie and proceeds to be a dick about it. Then he has the vote switch. Now he is lurking, and making excuses. The problem I have with voting for him is that his latest posts look more townie, he's being honestly productive. The main case against him (gonzaw's, although townie) is shaky, and has painted him as scum. The vote switch is suspicious, but fits with his posting tone afterwards. Considering he made he the first case against Ottoxlol (he was ninja'ed by paq i'd call it a tie for first) it doesn't really fit in terms of both of them being scum. Conclusion: town Next on Ottolxlol: He starts off with shaky cases and proceeds to start to go after everyone. Funny that he was digging in so hard on VE, but pretty easily goes for BJ in the end. His pages 3 1/2 - 6 provide little reasoning, and are mostly response to others posts and reiterations of his own posts. Page 7 sees a transition into a bit more reasoned posts. I think that they have a towny vibe though, but the action of posting that many one-liners could be consdired scummy. He hasn't been posting very much about his actually reads, which makes me think he is a null-red read. At the moment though I feel BM still has more scummy posts than Ottolxlol, so I will vote for him until I can confirm a more red read. | ||
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On April 29 2012 10:26 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: I agree with JK jailing otto. And here are the votes if anyone's interested in drawing conclusions: Ghost_403 --> ottoxlol Risen --> ottoxlol Mattchew --> ottoxlol [UoN]Sentinel --> ottoxlol Ottoxlol --> MidnightGladius Bill Murray --> MidnightGladius marvellosity --> MidnightGladius johnnywup --> MidnightGladius Janaan --> MidnightGladius PaqMan --> MidnightGladius BroodkingEXE -> BillMurray(?) This last one is painting bkexe redder in my eyes. I don't see ottoxlol as the most confirmed scum in my eyes. Why vote for someone I don't see as the best option out there. Sure I can post shaky reasoning to try and convince the town, but would anyone really believe me? I am interested in why you would want to jail Otto. Why do you think he is the goon over your other scum reads? | ||
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Risen got caught in a lie about voting for Marv. While he didn't post it in the voting thread, I would say putting ##Vote: Name still counts as a vote in my mind. When I mean ninja'ed he posted a case on Ottolxlol within a couple minutes of you. Considering the length of the case, I would say that you both had cases on him at the same time. Since no one had any big suspicions before that separates him from Otto in my eyes. | ||
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No, I am saying that JK's can jail their most town reads. Mafia then have to guess who to shoot (since they want to get rid of influential or correct townies) and whether they are JK'ed. I think a jailing using a reasoned desicion (figuring out who is town) is better than having a 1/3 chance of a useful jail. | ||
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On April 30 2012 00:52 Ottoxlol wrote: ghost soft defending StD He's attacking Sent because he's lurking, yet he did not even mention StD apart from that post. Paqman's attacking BM for lurking, mentions BK, doesnt mention StD apart from two very soft defenses. He mentions that we waste d3 discussion on stupid speculation, but doesnt contribute a thing. Janaan doesnt mention him at all, to be fair he's mentioning that we should not lynch lurker d2-3 because we have posts that we can work with (this was about BM's lynch so I don't think it is relevant). Every other ppl mentioned StD for lynch target or scumread, but no one pushed him other then BK. StD layed really low tho. ghost and Paqman are my reads based on their relations with StD, and their unwillingness to engage in the discussion in the thread. Janaan gives me a headache, he would be my greenest read, but StD voted two times the person he made a case on. Of course this is not conclusive, but he was noob scum, and with Janaan not mentioning him it is a bit suspicious. 1) He had more reasoning behind suspecting Sent. 2) BM is doing more than lurking he is posting like scum to go along with it. 3) Trying to implicate me, because I suspected StD? He just cast suspicion on ghost and paq for not suspecting StD. 4) What relations? He didn't post anything in this post besides baseless accusations. | ||
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On May 01 2012 09:17 Ottoxlol wrote: Hah. Is english your native tongue? How can u interpret this sentence as implication. Baseless accusations? That word means there was no quotes of what they have been posting. There was... No one attacking the case other then "its weak" "Ottox is so scummy lynch him". Scum stopping the thread, town is too weak to think by themselves, GG. What was the point of the third point you made then? What quotes? What do you mean by:"No one attacking the case other then "its weak" "Ottox is so scummy lynch him". Scum stopping the thread, town is too weak to think by themselves, GG". I don't understand at all. | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + On April 22 2012 07:50 ghost_403 wrote: @BJ + Show Spoiler + lol VE is probably scum. Accusing gonzaw of a scumslip is just terribad, and someone of his experience should know better. Also, the idea of a JK working against the town is such a fashion is WTF bad. If he was a noob, I would give him a pass, but he's not. He should know better than that. Sentinel obviously rolled scum this game. His filter has nothing of content, and when layabout called him out, it took him 15 minutes to unlurk, at which point he added nothing to the conversation. He's here, but not contributing at all. I think he would make an excellent Day 1 lynch. The problem with this is that we had plenty of other lurkers at the time. Layabout called out 5-7 of us (depending on if you consider sleeping an anti town action), so why was Sen the worst out of them? For this post? I find it quite strange when others had less posts, and questionable productiveness that he chose to go for an active lurker. His reasoning for not voting for VE is contradicted in a later post is that he is playing too scummy. WTH, why is it that VE’s super bad play give him the right to live? + Show Spoiler + On April 22 2012 08:12 ghost_403 wrote: @gonzaw: I think a town should be focused in what they do, so I don't like throwing votes around all over the place. If I had to vote for one of them right now, I would vote sentinel over VE. My only reservations about voting VE at the moment is that I think he should play a better scum game, but I can see his scumslip case as something he was hoping other townies would catch on to and run with. He says a town should be focused in what they do and should keep their vote in place. Then he shouldn’t have abandoned this statement and go after paq. He points out both Matt and marv as being useless and non productive. It still begs the question on why he put his vote on Sent, why couldn’t he find any information besides him being a lurker? + Show Spoiler + On April 22 2012 09:35 ghost_403 wrote: @johnny: I hate writing up cases against people. I pointed it out that I think he's scummy here. I think big posts are a waste of time and space, but that's probably why no one listens to me in these games. brb, writing up a big poast. This is very strange he just said big posts are “a waste of time and space”, but he has no problem writing one up in the very next post. "The Very Next Post." I see a lot of twisting of context in this post (very scummy). Spoiler 1: Read the post right before it. This is a response to VE’s conviction, aka he’s asking VE, the only person who thought he was mafia whether gonzaw’s point was misguided. We were talking about policy, so obviously you are allowed to disagree with him in order to get a correct policy on the table. Spoiler 2: Anarchy? Far from it, he is suggesting scrapping a policy lynch and letting everyone look for scum and vote based on their own feelings. What do we get from this post? Sentinel is a lurker, like a lot of other people in the thread, which still begs the question why Sent, how has ghost picked him? + Show Spoiler + On April 23 2012 01:52 ghost_403 wrote: Wow, I could have sworn that I read that Sentinel voted BM. -_- My bad. That knocks him into second place in my list of people I think are scummy. When I have more time, I'll look back into the Sentinel == scum thing. Working on a Linear Algebra problem at the moment. brb I’ll look back into the “Sent == scum thing?” You didn’t need BM’s bandwagoning to vote for Sent in the first place, so why would you need to go back on your vote? Next he moves on to Ottoxlol, his only reasoning? He’s looking for lurkers. -_-, Your main lynch candidate at one time was a lurker (in fact that was your only argument for suspecting him). + Show Spoiler + On April 24 2012 21:15 ghost_403 wrote: Another thing that I was going to note last night was the fact that Sentinel has been lurking like a bawse through this whole game. If you take a look at what he wrote last night, he more or less claimed that he was onboard the VE lynch, and that's it. Sentinel is afraid of posting in this thread, because he's afraid he'll do something to out his scumbuddies. I thought he was scum yesterday, our townie friend sloosh thought he was scum before Sentinel killed him, and I think we should be lynching him today. I'm guessing that he rolled goon, which is why he's so afraid to get caught. Scum KP should drop to 1 after we lynch Sentinel. Let's look at Sentinel's posts from last night! Poast 1 "I was totally onboard for the VE lynch before VE was". Who cares? What does this add to the thread? How does this help us hunt scum? MG's idea that the scum voted to lynch VE before the townies is flawed to begin with, and now he somehow wants more credit for it? On April 24 2012 09:05 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: Wait... how the hell do you brand Risen green because of "town meta"? I think his aggressive-defensive bipolarity kinda ruined that aspect. If anything makes him green is that he backed VE till the end. Scum love making townie reads, because it saves them the trouble of scum hunting. You have nothing to say about the fact that Mattchew thinks you're scum? I'd be pissed if I ended up red on that list. On April 24 2012 09:26 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: I'm in Star Battle so I won't make the deadline. I'll probably post some once I'm done, closer to 14:00 GMT (+00:00) "I'm going to give myself an excuse not to post so I can avoid scumslipping." On April 24 2012 10:41 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: Fuck, have to push back my reply to tomorrow early morning. See above. On April 24 2012 10:43 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: I'm posting exactly seven hours from now. I think I'll make it. See above. There's no reason for a townie to have this little content in the game. One post with a decent thought is all I ask for. Just one. One post where I can look back and agree or disagree with what you have to say. Instead, this. Nothing of content. The lack of content from Sentinel is due to the fact that's he's terrified of being caught. That's 'cause Sentinel rolled scum. ##vote [UoN]Sentinel Three things to sum up what you said in the post: Sent pointed out a mistake in MG’s post, he made a townlist, and "I'm going to give myself an excuse not to post so I can avoid scumslipping.". Three things to counter what you said in this post: He did this so as to prevent misunderstandings about him bandwagoning, not everyone thinks townlists are bad, and you made an excuse post yourself: + Show Spoiler + On April 22 2012 06:57 ghost_403 wrote: All right, /confrim. Sorry I've been gone for the last day. The time I can spend in the thread is going to be limited for the next couple of days. After the 25th, I should be back to full steam. Now to find some scum. Only got 12 pages to go through. Shouldn't be too hard. | ||
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