I can't believe you're even entertaining Mattchew's claim as being true. Your mislynch is costing us the game. We already should have lost, and now you're just pissing away our second chance. And Paq, the either town idiot or brilliant scum who's been tunneling me all game for NO REASON. And YOU johnnywup. I've never seen someone flip flop more in a game. You're worse than Romney. I'm done with this circus. We got a second chance and it's being thrown away.

Why don't you quit whining for once and actually play?

PaqMan

United States1475 Posts

May 03 2012 04:54 GMT

#2270

I tunneled you for what, 2 days? And your only defense was flip shit and insult. You're actively lurking and you're not helping Town win at all. Instead of proving to me that you ARE town, you throw meaningless insults at me. This is the second time you say your going to quit SO PLEASE DO IT.

PaqMan

United States1475 Posts

May 03 2012 04:58 GMT

#2271

Going to bed so goodnight. I still don't think BM is town. I'm probably going to end up voting him.

PaqMan

United States1475 Posts

May 03 2012 05:06 GMT

#2277

On May 03 2012 14:04 Bill Murray wrote:
Im going to wait until Sent claims who he was on
if he was on me, mafia no killed, and I'm going to be voting Mattchew
If he was on someone else, I'm going to vote them
In the meantime, I know Ghost and Risen are scum with one of Matt/Sent
##Vote: Ghost_403

+ Show Spoiler +

On May 03 2012 11:15 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Ok. Everybody calm the fuck down.

Mattchew is claiming vigilante and unless he's trolling it's a good chance he's one of the two godfathers. Because what does vigilante flip when he dies?

I'm going to vote for Bill Murray because that is who I jailed tonight. Now granted, if I were scum, I'd rather sit and not kill, then Bill Murray gets lynched as townie and you get a free kill, BUT that's a waste of a night. It boils down to this. For the sake of this post, let's assume that mafia has to place a kill and BM is not goon:

If the mafia decides not to kill someone, we lynch Bill Murray, and then tonight they kill another townie. If the mafia does order a kill, they don't know who we're likely to lynch and have to play more conservatively for another night because the obvious candidate, Bill Murray, is not the goon.

However, while the first scenario looks more appealing at first because they kill two townies, I don't think it's a good deal. For example, they could place a kill on me. If they killed me, we could have questions: Did I really jail BM? If BM is not the goon, who is? Neither one of these could be answered because I was away when the night ended, and I am no longer alive.

TL;DR: If BM is not goon, it's a bad tradeoff for the mafia to withhold their kill and make it look like I did it. Therefore, I will assume that BM is in fact the goon, that I have successfully jailed him, and that he will be lynched today.

##Vote: Bill Murray

PaqMan

United States1475 Posts

May 03 2012 05:13 GMT

#2280

I want to lynch either Sentinel or BM. The thing is, Ottox was right.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=329128&currentpage=110#2181

I feel really dumb for continuously ignoring this.

Ok forreal now I'm going to sleep.

PaqMan

United States1475 Posts

May 03 2012 13:20 GMT

#2285

Just a quick thought as I'm in a rush. If Sentinel is telling the truth then we let him jail BM tonight, and we lynch someone else like Risen.

PaqMan

United States1475 Posts

May 03 2012 21:39 GMT

#2311

On May 04 2012 05:03 Mattchew wrote:
Why else would they fake jail him... I guess he COULD be scum but that would mean their whole team sent/risen/bm would be involved in this and that doesn't seem like it's very logical... I think logically sent's fake claim means bm is town

Okay so I don't believe you or sentinel. So I think BM would be a pretty good lynch. Him or Risen.

PaqMan

United States1475 Posts

May 03 2012 21:42 GMT

#2312

Actually I think you're right Mattchew. It doesn't make much sense.
I'm voting Sentinel.

PaqMan

United States1475 Posts

May 03 2012 21:45 GMT

#2313

But I don't like how BM switches his vote to Mattchew and Risen follows. So now Risen seems the better lynch..

Hmm. Decisions, decisions...

PaqMan

United States1475 Posts

May 03 2012 22:25 GMT

#2314

On May 04 2012 04:54 Risen wrote:
Changing my vote to confirmed scum mattchew.

How is he confirmed scum? Every time suspicion gets thrown onto you, you pull the RAGEQUIT card and stop playing. Yeah I'm not buying that bs. Your play the entire game has been scum play, so I'm putting my vote back onto you.

PaqMan

United States1475 Posts

May 03 2012 22:27 GMT

#2315

@Mattchew I do not completely believe your claim. I also don't believe Sentinel's. That said, I'm happy to make a compromise and lynch your other scumread, Risen.

PaqMan

United States1475 Posts

May 03 2012 22:42 GMT

#2316

After the lynch Sentinel can jail BM again, which should result in no night kill and proving that his JK claim is true.
One of Mattchew or Sentinel is town so lynching either of them right now is dangerous. I fully believe we should take the third option and lynch Risen.

If Mattchew is telling the truth, Risen will flip godfather and we can proceed to lynch the remaining scum.

PaqMan

United States1475 Posts

May 03 2012 23:16 GMT

#2323

Every time you get put on the spotlight your only defense is OMGUS. What have you done to help town? oh yeah nothing.
After your horrible voteswitch didn't you say that you were going to make a lot of cases and posts? Didn't you come back after you supposedly "gave up" and said you were going to get back into the game? And then you said you were quitting AGAIN. What's up with that trash?

I really hope that you're just trolling us.

PaqMan

United States1475 Posts

May 03 2012 23:19 GMT

#2326

Well I guess you're done playing mafia because you're getting lynched.

PaqMan

United States1475 Posts

May 03 2012 23:21 GMT

#2327

ebwop: I've also made cases against Mattchew and Fos'd other people. More than what you can say for yourself. Your play the entire game literally consists of Raging whining insulting and quitting.

PaqMan

United States1475 Posts

May 03 2012 23:34 GMT

#2330

Oh, now you want to post after your at risk of getting lynched? nice play.

PaqMan

United States1475 Posts

May 04 2012 00:13 GMT

#2333

Yeah, he's not pushing either one besides voting Matt. His post is basically saying "Vote one of the blues and get off me."

But what really bothers me the most about the whole ordeal is that Mattchew's claim could have been a last-ditch effort to save BM from getting lynched. I want to see Sentinel posting more when he returns.

PaqMan

United States1475 Posts

May 04 2012 00:20 GMT

#2335

Where are you at Mattchew?

PaqMan

United States1475 Posts

May 04 2012 00:25 GMT

#2337

@Risen you're not putting any effort into proving to town that Mattchew is lying.
Why am I going to trust the guy that I've had scum reads on when all he says is this: + Show Spoiler +

On May 03 2012 09:46 Risen wrote:
Mattchew is lying.

Followed by this: + Show Spoiler +

On May 03 2012 13:35 Risen wrote:
I quit.

yeah great argument bro.