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MrZentor
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1648 Posts
April 15 2012 01:56 GMT
#586
You know Chaoser, I wouldn't mind filling in for GM.
Falling’s just like flying, except there’s a more permanent destination.
MrZentor
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1648 Posts
April 15 2012 03:43 GMT
#592
Ace, is arguing against me useless because it's so obvious that I'm town?

Or..?
Falling’s just like flying, except there’s a more permanent destination.
MrZentor
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1648 Posts
April 15 2012 14:17 GMT
#612
And this is why I wanted to elect Ace.

Falling’s just like flying, except there’s a more permanent destination.
MrZentor
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1648 Posts
April 16 2012 02:42 GMT
#667
I see no relationship between the puzzle and that answer.
Falling’s just like flying, except there’s a more permanent destination.
MrZentor
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1648 Posts
April 16 2012 20:03 GMT
#717
People seem to be confused by Acrofale's bomb.

He could target a person at night with it, and if Acro died, the person died too.

He could choose to move it to somebody else the next night or keep it on the same person.

R.I.P Acrofales
Falling’s just like flying, except there’s a more permanent destination.
MrZentor
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1648 Posts
April 16 2012 20:34 GMT
#724
NOT ACE

DON'T KILL ACE
Falling’s just like flying, except there’s a more permanent destination.
MrZentor
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1648 Posts
April 16 2012 21:33 GMT
#730
Did anybody else get really confused because they originally read from top to bottom?
Falling’s just like flying, except there’s a more permanent destination.
MrZentor
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1648 Posts
April 16 2012 22:16 GMT
#741
What do you mean he slipped about me being scum?

All he did was attack me.

If anything, it makes me more innocent.
Falling’s just like flying, except there’s a more permanent destination.
MrZentor
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1648 Posts
April 16 2012 22:30 GMT
#746
Rofl, how is that a scum slip?

That's a scum attacking a townie to make it look like he's doing something.
Falling’s just like flying, except there’s a more permanent destination.
MrZentor
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1648 Posts
April 16 2012 22:36 GMT
#749
Of course mafia are going to leave hints on who their "scumbuddies" are. They want to do as much damage as possible, and breadcrumbing that a townsperson is their scumbuddy is a great way to cause havoc and perhaps a mislynch after their death.

-.-
Falling’s just like flying, except there’s a more permanent destination.
MrZentor
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1648 Posts
April 16 2012 22:38 GMT
#750
Also, he could have been trying to buddy me..
Falling’s just like flying, except there’s a more permanent destination.
MrZentor
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1648 Posts
April 16 2012 22:41 GMT
#754
By the logic you guys are using, Ace is mafia. (lol)


On April 13 2012 16:19 l10f wrote:
Agree with Ace. We're much better off electing someone who'll tell us everything that comes with being a captain than someone who gives the best lynch case. It's almost always better for things to be transparent and public knowledge.

It's hard to come up with a good lynch on day 1 when we have almost nothing to go on. On the other hand, the mafia know exactly who to lynch for obvious reasons. It's easier for them to pick specific lynch targets to earn our favor.

So let's vote someone who promises complete transparency to us.

Also if you're running for captaincy, please clearly state it.


Oh and GM and SandRoba are too.

On April 15 2012 05:29 l10f wrote:
I ain't a lurker, I was just busy/having fun

I'm going to vote for GMarshal. He and sandroba being very active and outgoing shows that they're probably town. I wouldn't mind either of them being the captain, but I'm picking GMarshal over sandroba because he seems to have a clearer direction for town and I agree with voting off non-active player for the first lynch.

MrZentor you seem to be just trying to convince town that you're not scum but by reacting so strongly to every accusation you get you seem defensive. I'm not convinced he's scum 100% but he seems to be very suspicious.

I'm elteneff on skype if anyone wants to have a conversation ^_^

I've received 4 PM's so far, sorry for not responding because I didn't see them until now!


Falling’s just like flying, except there’s a more permanent destination.
MrZentor
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1648 Posts
April 16 2012 22:52 GMT
#763
Kurumi, you need to read my full filter. I responded to that "scum slip".
Falling’s just like flying, except there’s a more permanent destination.
MrZentor
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1648 Posts
April 16 2012 23:17 GMT
#771
It's funny how people want to lynch me, but prphlz hasn't posted anything but /in.

Also, I still don't see how a confirmed scum calling me confirmed scum makes me scum....
Falling’s just like flying, except there’s a more permanent destination.
MrZentor
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1648 Posts
April 16 2012 23:53 GMT
#778
On April 17 2012 08:40 marvellosity wrote:
Also VE, apparently I'm talking to your wife.


lol
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MrZentor
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1648 Posts
April 17 2012 00:43 GMT
#786
Yeah, we need to get prphlz to say something.

##Vote: prphlz
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MrZentor
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1648 Posts
April 17 2012 00:54 GMT
#788
No, I don't. I want to force him to say something or he dies. I'm not going to unvote him if he convinces me that he's not mafia. That's not likely.
Falling’s just like flying, except there’s a more permanent destination.
MrZentor
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1648 Posts
April 17 2012 00:54 GMT
#789
I meant I will unvote him*
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MrZentor
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1648 Posts
April 17 2012 20:23 GMT
#870
On April 18 2012 00:38 talismania wrote:
Ok. There are five people in this game who are scum. There are twenty who aren't.

Here are the players from which I believe the scum team comes:

MrZentor - A few reasons to think this as have been posted.

One, as brought up by layabout via kurumi of course is the entanglement with l10f. l10f is bad at playing scum. The simplest explanation for his behavior is that he was trying to protect his scumbuddy when he saw someone attack him.

Two is that his demeanor has changed over the course of the game. He started out with his bid for captaincy, ever since it fizzled and people started looking at him, he's been on the defensive. This is a weaker reason as town can act this way too. Also note strongandbig's point about his campaign for captaincy including the promise that people could lynch him if they disagreed with his decision-making. That made and still makes no sense from a town point of view - if you're town, why would you agree to let yourself get lynched under any circumstances?

Three is that he basically revealed that he knew about acrofales' bombs. I haven't heard any replies from the people I PM'd about this yet so I'll just go ahead and post it.

Show nested quote +
People seem to be confused by Acrofale's bomb.

He could target a person at night with it, and if Acro died, the person died too.

He could choose to move it to somebody else the next night or keep it on the same person.

R.I.P Acrofales


This means that acrofales told him how his bombs work. This means that MrZentor knew that if acrofales died, another person would die. This means that if MrZentor were scum, he knew that killing acrofales would be a 2 for 1. Also note that acrofales stated in the thread at one point that he thought MrZentor was acting scummy. Acrofales was targeted for a reason - part of it may have been his suspicion of l10f but another part of it may be this. Marvellosity, this explains why acrofales told you to be suspicious of Zentor if he died. The only part that doesn't make sense is why Zentor would even make that post - maybe someone else knew? Maybe he slipped in trying to appear helpful? Or this whole case is rubbish and he's town.

Sinani206

Read Sinani's filter. Compare it to l10f's.

Sinani does nothing day one but comment on the captaincy. It's all superficial game-content posts from him. There is no attempt at real scumhunting. There is no attempt at any protown plan. He hasn't responded to PMs. Yet he's still in the game, posting and making votes. His vote just now for ET reeks.

Jackal58

He's on here almost by process of elimination and my own gut feeling to be perfectly honest. Here are his comments in PM land when asked what he thinks of sinani, node, and zentor:

Show nested quote +
Node is AWOL too much. Don't know if he's going strong in PM land or not.
Sinani drives me nuts but I think he's town.
Zentor strikes me as a noob trying to get lynched. Dunno what he is.

What do you make of them?
What do you make of Sandroba?

Original Message From talismania:
what do you make of node, sinani, and zentor?


Could be confirmation bias, but my eyebrows arched a bit when he asks me that fish-y question on sandroba. Here's the rest of the conversation:
+ Show Spoiler +
I have never been right about Sinani. I don't expect to start being right about him today. He reminds me of Kenpachi.
And Node I agree. I've only seen him disappear like this when he's been scum.
You're right about Sandroba. I don't know why everybody claimed to him,and I still haven't ruled out that he may have used a vig to bus his teammate.

Original Message From talismania:
All three are near the scummy end of my list. sinani and node both only commented reactively to the captaincy discussion and have done little in the way of accusation or protown planning/ideas. At least sinani appears to still be playing the game.

Sandroba is town or we're all royally fucked. You think there's something going on with him?


coagulation

Like, Jackal, this case isn't that strong. There's not much to go on here, but again it's almost process of elimination. He goes after ace fairly strongly, as maverick pointed out. That doesn't necessarily make him scum - many people had suspicions of ace at the time, myself included. His vote on prp does not sit right with me. Not necessarily because of who it was made on, but how it was made. Maybe I'm tunneling, but it was almost like "oh whew, people are interested in a townie lynch let me hop on that real quick".

VayeshMoru

Oh Vayesh. I really have no clue what your alignment is. You're on this list because you're voting Node right now, and Jackal is fingering him as well. That's weak, I admit. But you also have cast some suspicion on marvellosity, who gives me town vibe, as well as me. You were the only person and maybe are the only person in the game to ever publicly state a suspicion on me. I think it was something like "he's only trying to play for himself" or something when I had just made a post about making sure that everyone shared as much information as possible.

________

On the bubble:

Node

Node has the same MO as sinani day one - except he actually did put some pressure on someone (strongandbig). And he's also disappeared since then, whereas sinani has at least attempted to keep playing. He's mainly out here because Jackal is raising suspicions of him, and I think scum right now are fishing for viable lynch alternatives to themselves

________

Outside possibilities:

Prplhz, erandorr. I wouldn't mind seeing these players flipped but I'm guessing they would come back town and would rather we go for one of ones higher up.




One, as brought up by layabout via kurumi of course is the entanglement with l10f. l10f is bad at playing scum. The simplest explanation for his behavior is that he was trying to protect his scumbuddy when he saw someone attack him.


To be honest, I think I was wrong about what I wrote in my previous posts. l10f admits I'm scum. He says I shouldn't get killed asap but that I should get killed. He wasn't defending me. He was trying to delay my death, because if you spend 3 days assuming I am scum and building all your theories around me being scum, when I'm lynched and flip town, you're dead. That excerpt is just an example of him being scummy.

Two is that his demeanor has changed over the course of the game. He started out with his bid for captaincy, ever since it fizzled and people started looking at him, he's been on the defensive. This is a weaker reason as town can act this way too. Also note strongandbig's point about his campaign for captaincy including the promise that people could lynch him if they disagreed with his decision-making. That made and still makes no sense from a town point of view - if you're town, why would you agree to let yourself get lynched under any circumstances?


Of course my demeanor has changes over the course of the game; everyone's has.

It's not really about "me" being lynched; it's more of a guarantee that I won't disregard town's decision and lynch a townie.(See GM)

This means that acrofales told him how his bombs work. This means that MrZentor knew that if acrofales died, another person would die. This means that if MrZentor were scum, he knew that killing acrofales would be a 2 for 1. Also note that acrofales stated in the thread at one point that he thought MrZentor was acting scummy. Acrofales was targeted for a reason - part of it may have been his suspicion of l10f but another part of it may be this. Marvellosity, this explains why acrofales told you to be suspicious of Zentor if he died. The only part that doesn't make sense is why Zentor would even make that post - maybe someone else knew? Maybe he slipped in trying to appear helpful? Or this whole case is rubbish and he's town.


Of course I knew about his bombs. He and I were best friends. <3 Assuming he was killed because of his bomb, and therefore I am scum is stupid. He was being very active by pming a lot of people, acting extremely townie, and pressuring l10f. He would be a great target for the scum, mostly because of the last part.

The point at which he says I'm acting scummy is before we talked and roleclaimed to eachother. One of the reasons why he starting talking to me is because he thought I was scummy.

When he says Marv should be suspicious of me, I think it's more of a "he's not confirmed town" than a "I think he's scum". He's telling Marv to not completely trust me. The reason for why there's the possibility of me seeming confirmed town to Marv is probably floating around PM land, so at least a few of you should know what I'm talking about.

There really is no reason for scum to so obviously post information that can only incriminates them. A town, however, want to clear up the confusion.

this whole case is rubbish and he's town.



Falling’s just like flying, except there’s a more permanent destination.
MrZentor
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1648 Posts
April 17 2012 20:42 GMT
#874
I trust Sandroba, just like he trusts me.


##Vote: Jackal28
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