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+ Show Spoiler [whati want us to do] +I want us to kill Macheji for being the first player to misuse occam's razor instead of an actual argument.
I also need Greymist to live.
So my wincon is for town to win and one of Greymist or Bluelightz to still be alive at endgame.
On April 11 2012 05:49 Sbrubbles wrote:Show nested quote +On April 11 2012 05:40 layabout wrote:
sbrubbles voting a player for being "defensive" is terrible Defensive wasn't the right word, admittedly. What I mean is, you could have simply stated he is your protectee. Instead, you try to meta-explain why the hosts would have him as such without anyone asking or question it. This is aside from the point, of course, that I believe you're lying.
I dislike the way you are trying to over analyse an action that had very little thought put into it.
Macheji, would you care to summarise your case against me and tell us how certain you are that i will flip scum?
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How do you argue with nonsense?
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On April 11 2012 06:56 VisceraEyes wrote:
Because he's supposed to be the biggest bastard of them all. He hasn't called me scum yet. I think he's scum trying to hide.
This has a similar amount of credibility to the "case" on me.
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On April 11 2012 06:57 Hassybaby wrote:
I actually thought Draz was talking crazy when the initial accusations were said (damn your YugiOh cards making me think that part of the convo was pre-game) but since its after the PMs....
Are you gonna properly address what they're actually saying or continue to just dismiss it?
Also, those are very specific choices. Blue who has shown doubt about your guilt (well, sort of) and Grey, who is the main guy behind the Draz lynch, who in turn is the main guy after you
How do i address them saying "we don't believe that's your wincon" when it is in fact my wincon?
Also, those choices ARE specific. Because that is what my wincon is.
Draz said i was a good lynch here http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=326599¤tpage=7#125
and then backs it up here http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=326599¤tpage=7#132
Who in their right mind would read that and be convinced?
The only lie is here:
It says "no spoilers in here" but it contains two spoilers
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Can we be clear, serious and transparent for a while?
The thread is trash.
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I think Strongandbig is a third party.
His posting History this game is the following:
I want to /in
/in
I am going for "bastard meta"
/confirm
Is Darzek claiming broken shell? oh btw i haven't seen lost
37 "!" you a sleeper cell?
Contrived twitpic nonsense
"Im Tovn" dont trust ppl
I looked at the lsot wiki, maybe everyone in town is a survivor?
I think BM is a smurf and he is lurking, so i am going to pressure him, aren't i useful
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Layabout needs to keep Greymist and Bluelightz alive
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On April 11 2012 09:25 GreYMisT wrote:
I fail to see how this is helpful. Its certainly not helping us find out who the scummiest player is
Well if somebody is lying and a DT check's them, the DT will know that they lied about their wincon.
Other than that there is an increased chance that any two players that have to protect each other share alignments, but since players appear to have multiple targets to keep alive to endgame it's possible that that chance is not so large.
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On April 11 2012 09:40 Eiii wrote:It's kind of blowing my mind that people are so excited to post their wincon when there are probably other parties out there interested in keeping them from winning :X I'm a pretty big fan of lynching lay because this is not consistent with what little I know about the game. Between that, the other slipups people have dug up, and him not being on *my* list... ##vote layabout
You are terrible
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Lets assume we are all survivors or town.
Town are not mafia. Survivors are not mafia.
+ Show Spoiler [Filters] +
Very likely survivor:
Johnnywub + Show Spoiler +he claims it when mafia would not be sure if there were many survivors and when there was no real need for him to claim it
strongandbig + Show Spoiler +he speculates that everyone is a survivor, i also think he is 3rd party.
Drazerk + Show Spoiler +based on his wincon being to keep himself alive On April 11 2012 07:26 Drazerk wrote:
Myself, Macheji, Jackal58 or GreYMisT
Go There was also this "be nice to survivors posts" On April 10 2012 23:28 Drazerk wrote:
Which annoys me because if someone claims survivor you should just ignore them instead of lynching them day 1 On April 10 2012 23:44 Drazerk wrote:
don't even like vigs targetting survivors
Just leave em be >.>
Also all three are acting like they do not care about lyching mafia. They are acting like they received a 3rd party role and then decided to mess around.
A sensible townie knows that survivors can win without town and will pay less attention to what someone that claims survivor says. Likewise a sensible survivor will realise the value in getting people to listen to them and would try to avoid claiming survivor.
Probably survivor
Cyber Cheese+ Show Spoiler + On April 10 2012 09:11 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
Thought: Everyone posts their wincon. Agree/Disagree? explanation coming when i regain PC acess
Hassababy + Show Spoiler +explanation coming when i regain PC acess
phagga + Show Spoiler +based on his wincon being to keep himself alive On April 11 2012 07:55 phagga wrote:
I got me, Cyber_Cheese, layabout, jackal58 or sbrubbles.
Seriously, I'm not sure what to think of the layabout thing. I mean, there was a alot of stupid banter at the start of the game, and I never took his posts about bluelightz seriously. I am quite surprised that so many people jump on that.
On the other side, his reaction is a bit lacking. So, yeah. But lynching him for this? i don't know...
Still, I also don't like how Drazerk just voted layabout before there was anything to vote him for and then tried to cover up his vote with stuff layabout said AFTER he voted him.
Also, there are a few people lurking, I'm mainly looking at Eiii and Bagmanager here. Also VE seems really tame compared to other games.
Town
Jackal + Show Spoiler +Jackal is probably the most responsible for for the wincon claims being shared, he claimed this On April 11 2012 07:33 Jackal58 wrote:Hmmmmm phagga, Sbrubbles, Hassybaby or Drazerk He is probably telling the truth because of these posts On April 11 2012 07:19 Jackal58 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 11 2012 06:26 layabout wrote:+ Show Spoiler [whati want us to do] +I want us to kill Macheji for being the first player to misuse occam's razor instead of an actual argument.
I also need Greymist to live. So my wincon is for town to win and one of Greymist or Bluelightz to still be alive at endgame. On April 11 2012 05:49 Sbrubbles wrote:On April 11 2012 05:40 layabout wrote:
sbrubbles voting a player for being "defensive" is terrible Defensive wasn't the right word, admittedly. What I mean is, you could have simply stated he is your protectee. Instead, you try to meta-explain why the hosts would have him as such without anyone asking or question it. This is aside from the point, of course, that I believe you're lying. I dislike the way you are trying to over analyse an action that had very little thought put into it. Macheji, would you care to summarise your case against me and tell us how certain you are that i will flip scum? That's funny. I got 4 players in my list. On April 11 2012 07:29 Jackal58 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 11 2012 07:28 VisceraEyes wrote:On April 11 2012 07:25 Jackal58 wrote:On April 11 2012 07:21 VisceraEyes wrote:
How about we all simultaneously post our Role PMs and compare them that way? I PROMISE I will too guys, really. How's about you talk everybody into lynching me. Because you haven't told me whether you're scum or not. I just THINK you are right now. If you're smart enough to figure it out I just told you what I was. Him doing this as mafia just does not seem right. Jackal is also quite a lazy player and i don't think he would bother to do this when there was no need for him to do so as mafia.
Layabout
which leaves us with:
Greymist
Bluelightz
Viscera Eyes
Bagmanger
Eiii
Sbrubbles
I am fairly sure that Blue and Grey are town but you will need to check for yourself.
Greymist seems very concernned about people not listening to him + Blue's tone indicates that he is thinking about who he thinks might be scum.
so the mafia are likely in here:
Viscera Eyes
Bagmanger
Eiii
Sbrubbles
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I hope you will see the merit in this case and vote for macheji
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=14299830
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=14304406
##vote Macheji
Perhaps my post was not very clear at the beginning.
+ Show Spoiler +Let's assume we are all town, survivors or mafia.
I think that town includes these people:
layabout-me
Jackal
Greymist
Bluelightz
You really shouldn't have a problem with me saying this as mafia would unlikely to kill any of these players and it's not as if i am trusted
survivors includes these people
Johnnywub
strongandbig
Drazerk
and probably includes these people
Hassababy
cybercheese
phagga
so the mafia would be in this group
Viscera Eyes
Bagmanger
Eiii
Sbrubbles
macheji
so i am saying that we should lynch one of them.
I would also like to point out that none of them (or most of you for that matter) are doing anything that resembles trying to lynch scum.
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It was a mistake i had to go so i rushed
There are a number of players that are voting for me. All of them appear to be outright refusing to believe my wincon.
Maybe they actually think i am mafia (but they can't be that stupid, right?)
So if i support a case, those players are very unlikely to then turn around and support it.
There was also the issue of it being called an OMGUS which would serve to discredit anything i say against him.
back in like 3 hours
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wait the deadline is now?
in that case vote WBG Bagmanager
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Can somebody please explain to me why my play suggest that i am mafia?
And Greymist can you maybe not do another retarded switch to me?
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The fact of the matter is that i am one of the few people that have actually provided content that may be of any use.
Most of you have not done shit.
Macheji is a good lynch.
VisceraEyes is not playing to his town meta.
Strongandbig is survivor or sk.
Eiii is not being useful
Scum will try to push Jackal, Johnnywub or strongandbig.
Drazerk is filling the thread with empty crap, he should be intelligent enough to realise that he is leading a terrible lynch do not follow him.
+ Show Spoiler [Dear Macheji] +
ASOIAF spoiler
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On April 12 2012 05:44 GreYMisT wrote:Show nested quote +On April 12 2012 05:39 layabout wrote:
Can somebody please explain to me why my play suggest that i am mafia?
And Greymist can you maybe not do another retarded switch to me? Im between you and Draz now. Draz is not getting lynched today so I am switching to you to assure majority. I stated why i think you should be lynched. What you have not explained is why your targets should be lynched.
Almost entirely through elimination.
The thread has been so very stagnant and so many players have provided so little it would be very easy for mafia to be hiding amongst the unhelpful lurkers and since this is TL they will be hiding amongst them.
Oh and since i know that i am not mafia and any of them could be mafia, i know that lynching them would definately be better than lynching me.
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Bagmanager is WBG!!
He is smart enough to know how fucking dumb you are being,
But he does not care.
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Nope you brutally murdered me and traded my corpse to a group of centaur in exchange for a dead Octopus, which you then cooked and ate.
I mean,
"You all suck"
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