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On April 11 2012 21:40 layabout wrote: Lets assume we are all survivors or town. Town are not mafia. Survivors are not mafia. + Show Spoiler [Filters] + 1 - Bluelightz 2 - johnnywup 3 - phagga 4 - Hassybaby 5 - Drazerk 6 - GreYMisT 7 - VisceraEyes 8 - strongandbig 9 - Macheji 10- Jackal58 11- layabout 12- BagManager 13- Cyber_Cheese 14- Eiii 15- Sbrubbles Very likely survivor: Johnnywub + Show Spoiler + he claims it when mafia would not be sure if there were many survivors and when there was no real need for him to claim it strongandbig + Show Spoiler + he speculates that everyone is a survivor, i also think he is 3rd party. Drazerk + Show Spoiler + based on his wincon being to keep himself alive On April 11 2012 07:26 Drazerk wrote: Myself, Macheji, Jackal58 or GreYMisT Go There was also this "be nice to survivors posts" On April 10 2012 23:28 Drazerk wrote: Which annoys me because if someone claims survivor you should just ignore them instead of lynching them day 1 On April 10 2012 23:44 Drazerk wrote: don't even like vigs targetting survivors Just leave em be >.> Also all three are acting like they do not care about lyching mafia. They are acting like they received a 3rd party role and then decided to mess around. A sensible townie knows that survivors can win without town and will pay less attention to what someone that claims survivor says. Likewise a sensible survivor will realise the value in getting people to listen to them and would try to avoid claiming survivor. Probably survivor Cyber Cheese+ Show Spoiler + On April 10 2012 09:11 Cyber_Cheese wrote: Thought: Everyone posts their wincon. Agree/Disagree? explanation coming when i regain PC acess Hassababy + Show Spoiler + explanation coming when i regain PC acess phagga + Show Spoiler + based on his wincon being to keep himself alive On April 11 2012 07:55 phagga wrote: I got me, Cyber_Cheese, layabout, jackal58 or sbrubbles. Seriously, I'm not sure what to think of the layabout thing. I mean, there was a alot of stupid banter at the start of the game, and I never took his posts about bluelightz seriously. I am quite surprised that so many people jump on that. On the other side, his reaction is a bit lacking. So, yeah. But lynching him for this? i don't know... Still, I also don't like how Drazerk just voted layabout before there was anything to vote him for and then tried to cover up his vote with stuff layabout said AFTER he voted him. Also, there are a few people lurking, I'm mainly looking at Eiii and Bagmanager here. Also VE seems really tame compared to other games. Town Jackal + Show Spoiler + Jackal is probably the most responsible for for the wincon claims being shared, he claimed this On April 11 2012 07:33 Jackal58 wrote: Hmmmmm phagga, Sbrubbles, Hassybaby or Drazerk He is probably telling the truth because of these posts On April 11 2012 07:29 Jackal58 wrote: If you're smart enough to figure it out I just told you what I was. Him doing this as mafia just does not seem right. Jackal is also quite a lazy player and i don't think he would bother to do this when there was no need for him to do so as mafia. Layabout which leaves us with: Greymist Bluelightz Viscera Eyes Bagmanger Eiii Sbrubbles I am fairly sure that Blue and Grey are town but you will need to check for yourself. Greymist seems very concernned about people not listening to him + Blue's tone indicates that he is thinking about who he thinks might be scum. so the mafia are likely in here: Viscera Eyes Bagmanger Eiii Sbrubbles Can't help but noticed you missed Macheji | ||
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On April 12 2012 07:53 Drazerk wrote: all survivors should just claim to be honest there is 0 reason not to as a survivor I disagree. We should kill all the claiming survivors so mafia don't nk us as easily. It's not like we can verify if a person is scum or survivor, so it doesn't actually help us find scum. | ||
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+ Show Spoiler [Successful Day 2] + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/1PLYH.png) | ||
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On April 12 2012 19:36 Bluelightz wrote: Oh god........... what the hell happened with Macheji Lolllllllll Anyway, I have my suspicion on a certain someone. Another completely useless post. Who? Why? [spoiler=Me] On April 11 2012 20:57 Bluelightz wrote: My case is fucking short yayyyyy Okay first point, he's not posting useless stuff Both questions, provide no fucking information on what s&b's alignment is. Second and last(lol) point, He pushed too far on Macheji, I think that Macheji finally cracked as town when he well sorta raged, Like I said in my previous post he seemed geniuinely mad so therefore he is town. ##Vote: Cyber_Cheese I should have thought to rebut this sooner. I just dismissed it as stupid at the time. Pushed too far on Macheji? Exactly how did I do that? When is too far? If you find someone looking like complete scum, do you just let the rest of town completely ignore them? I ask two questions aimed at getting strongandbig to post stuff relevant to the current game, how does that make me a better lynch candidate than the person you had been pursuing all game? Furthermore, he's just suddenly town now? This is his filter What exactly makes him seem like a townie to you? To date, he's thrown down a sheep vote, and essentially spent all his attention of defending himself instead of scum hunting, even when called out on it. Scum buddies? I think so! | ||
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On April 11 2012 21:40 layabout wrote: Probably survivor Cyber Cheese+ Show Spoiler + On April 10 2012 09:11 Cyber_Cheese wrote: Thought: Everyone posts their wincon. Agree/Disagree? explanation coming when i regain PC acess I was surprised someone worked it out on day 1. On April 13 2012 07:38 Sbrubbles wrote: Well, I can't see Drazerk as lying at this point. The "kill someone" wincons are never alone, acording to the OP, so he has other wincons which he can only hope to further if he's alive. Thus he would never lie in such a manner, knowing we're gonna lynch him tomorrow if he's lying. ##vote Cyber_Cheese For now, I'm mostly basing my vote on Drazerk, but Macheji, VE and Blue had cases on C_C and I'll try to expand on that later. OK, so you guys know my wincon now. Ask yourselves: Are you happy with having the lynch decided at the start of day 2? Furthermore, is Johnnywup (Claimed survivor) a worse lynch than me? | ||
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On April 13 2012 06:53 Drazerk wrote: Also CC says he has to kill a target but his win con has no targets. Further proof he is the SK I don't seem to remember claiming that. Can you link it? | ||
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I hadn't say I had to kill the target, it's just a personal goal. I was given a fake win-con, to protect Macheji/VE/Sbrubbles/Bagmanager, and to kill Greymist. I figured I'd follow through on the kill for the shits and giggles. I suppose I can't now...  (How to use linebreak tags?) On April 10 2012 18:16 phagga wrote: There is no wincondition that Mafia wins if they outnumber town. The way it is stated, that list is final. + Show Spoiler + On April 06 2012 18:07 Forumite wrote: - Winconditions: Each player has one or more of the following winconditions. Wincondition (4) is always combined with at least one other wincondition. (1) You win if there are no Scum or SKs alive at the end of the game. (2) You win if at least one of the players named in your role-PM are alive until the end of the game. (3) You win if you are alive at the end of the game. (4) You do not win if a player named in your role-PM is alive at the end of the game. If at any time there is no way you can win, then you become a broken shell of a man and lose all your abilities, any remaining secret messages and your vote, although you may still post in the game if you want to. You will also no longer receive secret messages sent to you. You are still alive until lynched or nightkilled, and still count as a living player in every other regard. The same thing happens to anyone who goes inactive, cheats, fail to vote or otherwise qualify for modkilling (except they are not allowed to post). So I guess Mafia has the Wincondition that at the End of the Game (which is still to be announced) some people either need to be alive or dead. On April 10 2012 18:36 Hassybaby wrote: Makes me think that there are only a bunch of SKs and assassin survivors, and town wins when they're dead. Maybe that means there isn't a Mafia team. Also, stop trying to apply logic to Drazerk. That's like asking Kenpachi to make a credible case on someone. Now, on it's own it's a decent assumption, but it's his second best post to date, (after this). The fact he's found need to specifically reply to that mechanic suggests to me he's a sk. Still not so bad. On April 13 2012 06:03 Hassybaby wrote: Ok, that convinces me that there is no Mafia team in this game. two survivors and two town have flipped. That still leaves 9 people. Some bias appears to be at work. On April 10 2012 09:11 Hassybaby wrote: I vote C_C for trying to get is to mass claim On April 11 2012 08:05 Hassybaby wrote: Wait, are we seriously mass claiming? On April 11 2012 08:13 Hassybaby wrote: As long as its not a mass claim, I'm cool with it. We could make an interesting chart to link people up. Objecting to the idea of claiming, but all too willing to create 'content' by getting other people to claim. | ||
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Don't be sheep lads. I'm not going to say I'm a bad lynch. At some point, any good town should strongly consider it. Don't let that be an excuse to waste day 2 with my lynch pre-determined creating no discussion. Furthermore, if multiple people are in a similar situation, start with the one that is the least helpful. | ||
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On April 13 2012 09:43 Eiii wrote: Between this:which you haven't refuted, and this: Seems to suggest that the survivors need to work together somehow. But you don't really seem in on that, which makes you out more to be SK than survivor. Also, I thought we were going to get game-end conditions today? "You win if You survive until the end of the game." Judging by the rest of my role pm, survivors don't have to work together at all. | ||
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On April 13 2012 17:34 johnnywup wrote: I don't understand what you mean. It came with a different role PM that you could claim? A fake win-con, not the whole pm. | ||
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On April 13 2012 18:47 Bluelightz wrote: Fuck this, with my case im guessing im going to vote C_C. ##Vote: Cyber_Cheese Okay certain someone is VE. Sheep. Make the case anyway, kgo. | ||
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On April 13 2012 21:45 Drazerk wrote: The layabout lynch was good for town now we know the set up. Judging by the amount of conversation that day, It left a lot to be desired. | ||
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Especially given that you have a Secret Message. | ||
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