Death Factory Mafia 2

On April 03 2012 10:27 Sbrubbles wrote:
Guys, I'll make my pull on syllo now.

##pull syllogism

Another point is that we may be able to get another lynch in by pushing. There are still 8 pushes around and what I see as two viable candidates:

Bluelightz:
Gives a town read list almost first thing in the game then gives a strange explanation and lets it drop. Wtf?
Pressured, he claims an ability that I just can't see as being town. I mean, lay down bombs and only he knows where they're at? Even if it's legit, I think it'd be too risky to use it.
Above all, I think he needs to come here and use his pull.

Cascades:
He does a pull on Palmar to just to check if he was telling the truth when there was no purpose in him lying, even if he was scum. I mean, it would make sense if he was arguing in favor of Palmar getting his item, but otherwise a strange move.
His suggestion on writing down what you expect to happen when you PoP imho doesn't add much and doesn't help. But it's a way to appear useful.
This is the strange thing, though:

How can he cut Blue's slack when he never pressured him in the first place? Opinions?

On April 04 2012 20:01 Acrofales wrote:


Okay... given the role of darkness in DFM1, why the FUCK would you say this? This makes no sense for scum OR town.

If you're scum, then you can say this to your darkness casting buddy in scumQT. The only reason to say this in the thread is so that town thinks you're helping them by saying something that is entirely useless to us.

If you're town, you just gave scum information they didn't have, which means you're incredibly stupid.

Given my policy that bad town play is almost always beneficial to scum I think we should definitely attempt to lynch three people today: bluelightz, cephiro and syllo.

I doubt we have enough pulls to get all three of them off the bottom, one of them will have to go into the fire. The only way we have of knowing someone is in the fire is if the item is picked up, which means we have to risk scum picking up the item, or having town go there first and then pushing a scum off the top edge afterwards.

On April 05 2012 04:00 layabout wrote:
Given what we know, we should kill syllo. Between syllo and ceph we have at least a 50/50 chance of hitting mafia, if risk is being truthful and there are no millers.

Of the two cephiro appears to be town because of ________yawn________
Syllogism does not appear to be scumhunting, but has spent time and effort doing "other stuff"

Yet i see a number of pulls have been used on Bluelightz, before i have even had a chance to read the thread.

It looks like this is going to end up like yesterday...

I am not roleclaiming so suck it.

On April 05 2012 15:59 prplhz wrote:
We do know something about the nullifier, he can nullify townies in the red zone.

We don't know if he can nullify scum or if he can nullify people outside of the red zone.

I think it would be weird if he could just nullify anybody anywhere whenever because then it's going to be nigh impossible to lynch scum ever, especially since it has multiple charges. It seems a lot more reasonable to think that it probably can't do any more than we've seen it do yet.

I have no idea why we decided to kill syllogism by pushing Cephiro, when a more simple and straight forward way would be to push syllogism. Cephiro can use whatever ability he has some other time when lights are back on and we have more control over what is happening. Anyway, since you guys are already lynching Bluelightz and syllogism and I don't have any more PoPs I'm probably going to be less active for the rest of the day.

On April 05 2012 20:20 Acrofales wrote:
Ah, bluelightz. Great to have your presence. I feel like pulling you off the bottom of the queue, but I'm willing to listen. You haven't answered some questions in this thread. Please do, imho your life depends on it.

Why did you think using your bombs was in any way, shape, or form a good idea? Regardless of the darkness (which, imho just makes it even better for scum to have the bombs placed).

On top of that, knowing that it is dark and nobody can see positions, except possibly the guy who cast darkness (and is almost certainly scum), why did you say where the bombs were?

And finally, because other than placing bombs your contribution to this game has been completely nothing, please give your top 3 scum reads, and tell us why they are scum.

On April 05 2012 22:29 Acrofales wrote:

Lol. I hope you're dead before tonight.

Why did you want your role confirmed instead of some "random bullshit claim"? What purpose does it have to confirm your role? Why are you obsessed with roleclaiming at all? What purpose does it serve?

On April 08 2012 00:16 prplhz wrote:
EBWOP: Do you think that Bluelightz faked a second charge on his power or that he forgot to use it today? Because those are the only two options if he is scum.

On April 08 2012 00:34 Nemesis wrote:

Hmm I guess you are right with bluelightz not using his power. But the thing about bluelightz is that he likes to lurk as scum, and he actually gives a shit when he is town. Besides claiming his power, he has done shit this game. At least mrzentor is actually trying.

Mrzentor, who do you think is scum right now besides syllogism?

Bluelightz's scum games:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=321159&user=256428
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=319120&user=235418

Bluelightz's town games:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=315210&user=235418