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MrZentor
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1648 Posts
April 07 2012 14:00 GMT
#1358
On April 07 2012 21:49 prplhz wrote:
Okay we pull MrZentor off the board. If you don't know why then read his scum filter and then read town filter.

Day1 he spent arguing so much about the Palmar-item plan that he forgot to even try to scum hunt and he didn't vote at all. Day2 he supported the Cephiro-item plan. His only attempt at scum hunting has been a half arsed case against Tobon while he accused people left and right in his town filter. His analysis doesn't look like town who found scum, but more like scum who doesn't want to take any responsibility. The case is safe as Tobon has already been pushed/tunneled for ages by Nemesis and a little by a couple of other people (including me). Before the Tobon case he says that syllogism looks scummiest of the risk.nuke check-trio, but instead he tries to push Tobon even though it doesn't look like he's really hooked on Tobon being scum with the conclusion "these things make me suspect that Tobon is scum".
While the first part of this post looks like he cares about town, he never follows up on it. There's no frustration that day2 sucked because we didn't listen to his advice or any attempts at organizing town.

Also, wherebugsgo thought he was scum and wherebugsgo is a good kid.

##Pull MrZentor


I hate being misinterpreted. I REALLY hate being misinterpreted.

Day1 he spent arguing so much about the Palmar-item plan that he forgot to even try to scum hunt and he didn't vote at all.

I spent the first half of day one trying to explain why the Palmar item-plan was a horrible plan. You can't do much to hunt scum on the first day, besides tunneling, which I hate, so I had planned on scum hunting during the second half of the day. I also was planning on voting, but irl things came up, as I have said countless times.

Day2 he supported the Cephiro-item plan. His only attempt at scum hunting has been a half arsed case against Tobon while he accused people left and right in his town filter.


I supported the Cephiro-item plan, because it would give us an item and kill a scum. Cephiro also seemed to think he wouldn't be affected by the nullify ability. When I made my first post, Tobon seemed really scummy, so I promised to make a case on him. Later on he seemed less scummy, but I felt compelled to make the case because I said I would. I have two people who I think are scum, besides syllogism. I just like watching the people without telling them, so they make mistakes, which makes it easier to prove that they're scum. Also, which town filter are you using? I purposely acted like scum as town in one of my games

Before the Tobon case he says that syllogism looks scummiest of the risk.nuke check-trio, but instead he tries to push Tobon even though it doesn't look like he's really hooked on Tobon being scum with the conclusion "these things make me suspect that Tobon is scum".

I thought it was pretty obvious Syllogism was by far the scummiest player; I just thought it would be good to have somebody else to kill after syllogism.

While the first part of this post looks like he cares about town, he never follows up on it. There's no frustration that day2 sucked because we didn't listen to his advice or any attempts at organizing town.

I let day two go, because it wasn't really town's fault that there was chaos(darkness), unlike day one, when town was just retarded. I do expect much better organization today.

Also, wherebugsgo thought he was scum and wherebugsgo is a good kid.

<3 WBG

##Pull MrZentor

It really seems quite rash to pull me on the first page of day three, before you even let me respond. Wouldn't it have been better to wait until the second half of today before pulling anybody, so you can get more information on people and pull actual scum?

<insert disappoint face here >

Falling’s just like flying, except there’s a more permanent destination.
MrZentor
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1648 Posts
April 07 2012 14:45 GMT
#1367
On April 07 2012 23:23 prplhz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2012 23:00 MrZentor wrote:
On April 07 2012 21:49 prplhz wrote:
Okay we pull MrZentor off the board. If you don't know why then read his scum filter and then read town filter.

Day1 he spent arguing so much about the Palmar-item plan that he forgot to even try to scum hunt and he didn't vote at all. Day2 he supported the Cephiro-item plan. His only attempt at scum hunting has been a half arsed case against Tobon while he accused people left and right in his town filter. His analysis doesn't look like town who found scum, but more like scum who doesn't want to take any responsibility. The case is safe as Tobon has already been pushed/tunneled for ages by Nemesis and a little by a couple of other people (including me). Before the Tobon case he says that syllogism looks scummiest of the risk.nuke check-trio, but instead he tries to push Tobon even though it doesn't look like he's really hooked on Tobon being scum with the conclusion "these things make me suspect that Tobon is scum".
While the first part of this post looks like he cares about town, he never follows up on it. There's no frustration that day2 sucked because we didn't listen to his advice or any attempts at organizing town.

Also, wherebugsgo thought he was scum and wherebugsgo is a good kid.

##Pull MrZentor


I hate being misinterpreted. I REALLY hate being misinterpreted.1

Day1 he spent arguing so much about the Palmar-item plan that he forgot to even try to scum hunt and he didn't vote at all.

I spent the first half of day one trying to explain why the Palmar item-plan was a horrible plan. You can't do much to hunt scum on the first day2, besides tunneling, which I hate, so I had planned on scum hunting during the second half of the day. I also was planning on voting, but irl things came up, as I have said countless times.3

Day2 he supported the Cephiro-item plan. His only attempt at scum hunting has been a half arsed case against Tobon while he accused people left and right in his town filter.


I supported the Cephiro-item plan, because it would give us an item and kill a scum. Cephiro also seemed to think he wouldn't be affected by the nullify ability. When I made my first post, Tobon seemed really scummy, so I promised to make a case on him. Later on he seemed less scummy, but I felt compelled to make the case because I said I would4. I have two people who I think are scum, besides syllogism. I just like watching the people without telling them, so they make mistakes, which makes it easier to prove that they're scum5. Also, which town filter are you using? I purposely acted like scum as town in one of my games6

Before the Tobon case he says that syllogism looks scummiest of the risk.nuke check-trio, but instead he tries to push Tobon even though it doesn't look like he's really hooked on Tobon being scum with the conclusion "these things make me suspect that Tobon is scum".

I thought it was pretty obvious Syllogism was by far the scummiest player; I just thought it would be good to have somebody else to kill after syllogism.7

While the first part of this post looks like he cares about town, he never follows up on it. There's no frustration that day2 sucked because we didn't listen to his advice or any attempts at organizing town.

I let day two go, because it wasn't really town's fault that there was chaos(darkness), unlike day one, when town was just retarded. I do expect much better organization today.

Also, wherebugsgo thought he was scum and wherebugsgo is a good kid.

<3 WBG

##Pull MrZentor

It really seems quite rash to pull me on the first page of day three, before you even let me respond. Wouldn't it have been better to wait until the second half of today before pulling anybody, so you can get more information on people and pull actual scum?

<insert disappoint face here >


1: What did I misinterpret?
2: Your town filter disagrees with this. You are trying to be active and help town in that.
3: And I'm in no way saying that you're lying about that and that makes you scum. Fact is that you weren't here and that's what I have to relate to. It is more likely that scum don't vote/PoP than it is that town don't vote/PoP (because scum mostly don't care as long as we're not lynching any of them and they have team mates to see to any unforeseen circumstances) so the fact that you didn't bother to be around makes you more scummy.
4: This is pretty good. You are writing a case on somebody, not because you felt that they were scummy but because you had promised town a case on that person. That's quite scummy.
5: But you didn't do anything. You're saying that you like to sit and watch but this is day3 and you only ever attacked Tobon and that was pretty half arsed.
6: I posted a link to a filter. You can't act scum as town, because you're not scum as town. You can't dismiss my case as an invalid meta argument just because I refer a little to a filter. Also, you did what?
7: So what is it, did you make the case on Tobon because you wanted another lynch after syllogism or because you thought Tobon was more scummy than syllogism?

I'd love to hear what you found out while watching but you probably found out that you weren't really being attacked so there was no reason to post in the thread.


1. You misinterpreted my actions as being scum actions.
2. The only reason I could hunt scum first day in that scenario is because Acrofales overreacted to Matthew tunneling him. We didn't have somebody overreact to a vote on the first day of this game.
3. It wasn't that I didn't "bother to be around." I had an emergency event. Also, I think scum would be more likely to vote than a non scum in that scenario. Since most people are voting and it doesn't matter who you kill, why shouldn't you act like you think one of them is scum and vote for them? Not PoPing in this game is a good way to get noticed, and mafia don't want to get noticed.
4. I did think he seemed scummy to some extent.(around 65%) It's just that I didn't think he was as scummy as I thought he was when I first posted.
5. So you're saying that I didn't attack Syllogism?
6. First, let me give you the definition of act I'm using, as you seem to not understand: to pretend; feign: Act interested even if you're bored. As town, I pretended to be mafia in that game, so if you're saying I'm not acting like that, you're saying I'm not acting like scum.(It seemed like a good idea at the time to act like scum.) In one of my last posts in that game, I prove that I was purposely pretending to be scum.
7. I don't think it's possible for anybody to look scummier than Syllogism. I thought it would be to have another lynch after Syllogism.

Falling’s just like flying, except there’s a more permanent destination.
MrZentor
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1648 Posts
April 07 2012 15:33 GMT
#1373
On April 08 2012 00:12 prplhz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2012 23:45 MrZentor wrote:
On April 07 2012 23:23 prplhz wrote:
On April 07 2012 23:00 MrZentor wrote:
On April 07 2012 21:49 prplhz wrote:
Okay we pull MrZentor off the board. If you don't know why then read his scum filter and then read town filter.

Day1 he spent arguing so much about the Palmar-item plan that he forgot to even try to scum hunt and he didn't vote at all. Day2 he supported the Cephiro-item plan. His only attempt at scum hunting has been a half arsed case against Tobon while he accused people left and right in his town filter. His analysis doesn't look like town who found scum, but more like scum who doesn't want to take any responsibility. The case is safe as Tobon has already been pushed/tunneled for ages by Nemesis and a little by a couple of other people (including me). Before the Tobon case he says that syllogism looks scummiest of the risk.nuke check-trio, but instead he tries to push Tobon even though it doesn't look like he's really hooked on Tobon being scum with the conclusion "these things make me suspect that Tobon is scum".
While the first part of this post looks like he cares about town, he never follows up on it. There's no frustration that day2 sucked because we didn't listen to his advice or any attempts at organizing town.

Also, wherebugsgo thought he was scum and wherebugsgo is a good kid.

##Pull MrZentor


I hate being misinterpreted. I REALLY hate being misinterpreted.1

Day1 he spent arguing so much about the Palmar-item plan that he forgot to even try to scum hunt and he didn't vote at all.

I spent the first half of day one trying to explain why the Palmar item-plan was a horrible plan. You can't do much to hunt scum on the first day2, besides tunneling, which I hate, so I had planned on scum hunting during the second half of the day. I also was planning on voting, but irl things came up, as I have said countless times.3

Day2 he supported the Cephiro-item plan. His only attempt at scum hunting has been a half arsed case against Tobon while he accused people left and right in his town filter.


I supported the Cephiro-item plan, because it would give us an item and kill a scum. Cephiro also seemed to think he wouldn't be affected by the nullify ability. When I made my first post, Tobon seemed really scummy, so I promised to make a case on him. Later on he seemed less scummy, but I felt compelled to make the case because I said I would4. I have two people who I think are scum, besides syllogism. I just like watching the people without telling them, so they make mistakes, which makes it easier to prove that they're scum5. Also, which town filter are you using? I purposely acted like scum as town in one of my games6

Before the Tobon case he says that syllogism looks scummiest of the risk.nuke check-trio, but instead he tries to push Tobon even though it doesn't look like he's really hooked on Tobon being scum with the conclusion "these things make me suspect that Tobon is scum".

I thought it was pretty obvious Syllogism was by far the scummiest player; I just thought it would be good to have somebody else to kill after syllogism.7

While the first part of this post looks like he cares about town, he never follows up on it. There's no frustration that day2 sucked because we didn't listen to his advice or any attempts at organizing town.

I let day two go, because it wasn't really town's fault that there was chaos(darkness), unlike day one, when town was just retarded. I do expect much better organization today.

Also, wherebugsgo thought he was scum and wherebugsgo is a good kid.

<3 WBG

##Pull MrZentor

It really seems quite rash to pull me on the first page of day three, before you even let me respond. Wouldn't it have been better to wait until the second half of today before pulling anybody, so you can get more information on people and pull actual scum?

<insert disappoint face here >


1: What did I misinterpret?
2: Your town filter disagrees with this. You are trying to be active and help town in that.
3: And I'm in no way saying that you're lying about that and that makes you scum. Fact is that you weren't here and that's what I have to relate to. It is more likely that scum don't vote/PoP than it is that town don't vote/PoP (because scum mostly don't care as long as we're not lynching any of them and they have team mates to see to any unforeseen circumstances) so the fact that you didn't bother to be around makes you more scummy.
4: This is pretty good. You are writing a case on somebody, not because you felt that they were scummy but because you had promised town a case on that person. That's quite scummy.
5: But you didn't do anything. You're saying that you like to sit and watch but this is day3 and you only ever attacked Tobon and that was pretty half arsed.
6: I posted a link to a filter. You can't act scum as town, because you're not scum as town. You can't dismiss my case as an invalid meta argument just because I refer a little to a filter. Also, you did what?
7: So what is it, did you make the case on Tobon because you wanted another lynch after syllogism or because you thought Tobon was more scummy than syllogism?

I'd love to hear what you found out while watching but you probably found out that you weren't really being attacked so there was no reason to post in the thread.


1. You misinterpreted my actions as being scum actions.
2. The only reason I could hunt scum first day in that scenario is because Acrofales overreacted to Matthew tunneling him. We didn't have somebody overreact to a vote on the first day of this game.
3. It wasn't that I didn't "bother to be around." I had an emergency event. Also, I think scum would be more likely to vote than a non scum in that scenario. Since most people are voting and it doesn't matter who you kill, why shouldn't you act like you think one of them is scum and vote for them? Not PoPing in this game is a good way to get noticed, and mafia don't want to get noticed.
4. I did think he seemed scummy to some extent.(around 65%) It's just that I didn't think he was as scummy as I thought he was when I first posted.
5. So you're saying that I didn't attack Syllogism?
6. First, let me give you the definition of act I'm using, as you seem to not understand: to pretend; feign: Act interested even if you're bored. As town, I pretended to be mafia in that game, so if you're saying I'm not acting like that, you're saying I'm not acting like scum.(It seemed like a good idea at the time to act like scum.) In one of my last posts in that game, I prove that I was purposely pretending to be scum.
7. I don't think it's possible for anybody to look scummier than Syllogism. I thought it would be to have another lynch after Syllogism.



So Mattchew is clearly town.

1: No I didn't. They're scummy.
2: So nothing scummy happened the first day?
3: Sorry for saying that, what I meant was that when other stuff happens, townies often feel a lot more responsible to the other townies than scum do (such as virtu in Surprisingly Normal Mini Mafia IX), it's just a general trend. It sucks if you really had an emergency and couldn't be around but I can only relate to what I see in the thread.
4: Okay. This is still your only contribution.
5: I'm saying that it was nothing compared to how you attacked Tobon.
6: I was just baffled that you acted scum as town. Again, you can't just dismiss me as only arguing with meta.
7: Okay I should think this over. Don't really know if it makes sense for scum not to just push syllogism at that point.

You still didn't find out anything while you were watching us.


1. They're not for reasons listed below.
2. Day one was just a huge mess. It's impossible to tell what's scummy and what's not because of the chaos with Palmar's plan, risk's claim, and a bunch of other stuff. I'm sure something scummy happened the first day; it's just nearly impossible to separate it from everything else.
3. I felt I did all I could given my conditions to help town on day one, which is why I don't feel any responsibility for the death day one. I'm just frustrated that town basically did the opposite of what they should have done and what I said to do, e.g. pushing Palmar to the item and throwing their PoPs away.
4. I had tons of other contributions.
5. Well, I couldn't really say much on Syllogism, because everything against him had been posted several times.
6. I'm just saying that in that game, I acted like scum, so you can't say I'm scum for not acting like that.
7. I'm not really sure what you're trying to say.

Falling’s just like flying, except there’s a more permanent destination.
MrZentor
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1648 Posts
April 08 2012 15:34 GMT
#1406
On April 09 2012 00:31 prplhz wrote:
Hey guys the lynch is in like 12 hours and we have tons of stuff to do. There are at least 6 people who have said that Mr. Wiggles is scummy so start pulling him off the board, and then follow up with MrZentor.

I really doubt we're going to reach consensus on another push lynch (since people tend to favor Mattchew who looks pretty town to me) so maybe we should just push syllogism off the edge.

We don't want another no lynch today, please.


So you're going to try to kill me even though I've shown why I'm not scummy?
Falling’s just like flying, except there’s a more permanent destination.
MrZentor
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1648 Posts
April 08 2012 23:53 GMT
#1439
Mattchew, you have to admit that it's suspicious that the power you just used looks exactly like the power used to kill VE day one.
Falling’s just like flying, except there’s a more permanent destination.
MrZentor
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1648 Posts
April 09 2012 01:14 GMT
#1442
On April 09 2012 09:50 Mattchew wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2012 08:53 MrZentor wrote:
Mattchew, you have to admit that it's suspicious that the power you just used looks exactly like the power used to kill VE day one.

what? I was no where near him. Lol my power can only be used on people around me. I told everyone this the whole time.

Stop being stupid


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Falling’s just like flying, except there’s a more permanent destination.
MrZentor
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1648 Posts
April 09 2012 01:26 GMT
#1444
See above response.
Falling’s just like flying, except there’s a more permanent destination.
MrZentor
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1648 Posts
April 09 2012 01:55 GMT
#1447
On April 09 2012 10:49 Mattchew wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2012 10:26 MrZentor wrote:
See above response.


scum or stupid?



Says the guy who admitted to having the power that pushed VE into the fire.

You're both.
Falling’s just like flying, except there’s a more permanent destination.
MrZentor
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1648 Posts
April 09 2012 02:00 GMT
#1449
On April 09 2012 10:57 Mattchew wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2012 10:55 MrZentor wrote:
On April 09 2012 10:49 Mattchew wrote:
On April 09 2012 10:26 MrZentor wrote:
See above response.


scum or stupid?



Says the guy who admitted to having the power that pushed VE into the fire.

You're both.

I have said all along that to use my power I need to be touching the person (1above, 1below, or on the same spot) to use my power. I was never near VE. I also pushed him to help him save palmar.

Please stop being ignorant and unintelligent.

Also, I clearly used my power on syllo. Its an anonymous power that I announced.


How do we know you're not just making up this limitation to appear innocent?

So you're saying scum hasn't bussed syllo yet?
Falling’s just like flying, except there’s a more permanent destination.
MrZentor
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1648 Posts
April 09 2012 02:07 GMT
#1451
Zing!
Falling’s just like flying, except there’s a more permanent destination.
MrZentor
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1648 Posts
April 09 2012 02:21 GMT
#1453
That sentence doesn't make any sense.

Want to know why?

Grammar.
Falling’s just like flying, except there’s a more permanent destination.
MrZentor
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1648 Posts
April 09 2012 02:28 GMT
#1455
It's also true.
Falling’s just like flying, except there’s a more permanent destination.
MrZentor
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1648 Posts
April 09 2012 03:57 GMT
#1471
##push prplhz
Falling’s just like flying, except there’s a more permanent destination.
MrZentor
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1648 Posts
April 09 2012 03:59 GMT
#1475
##Pull Bill Murray
Falling’s just like flying, except there’s a more permanent destination.
MrZentor
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1648 Posts
April 09 2012 03:59 GMT
#1477
##Pull Bill Murray
Falling’s just like flying, except there’s a more permanent destination.
MrZentor
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1648 Posts
April 09 2012 04:00 GMT
#1479
##push prphlz
Falling’s just like flying, except there’s a more permanent destination.
MrZentor
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1648 Posts
April 09 2012 04:05 GMT
#1481
On April 09 2012 13:03 Mattchew wrote:
oh and zentor, you suck and i really hope your scum

grammar nazi the shit outta you're, your, because in reality on an internet forum it doesn't matter as long as the receiver understands the message. You pick on grammar cause your argument is wrong. This makes you either scum or really really really stupid


Wow, he really is mad.
Falling’s just like flying, except there’s a more permanent destination.
MrZentor
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1648 Posts
April 09 2012 04:08 GMT
#1483
On April 09 2012 13:07 Mattchew wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2012 13:05 MrZentor wrote:
On April 09 2012 13:03 Mattchew wrote:
oh and zentor, you suck and i really hope your scum

grammar nazi the shit outta you're, your, because in reality on an internet forum it doesn't matter as long as the receiver understands the message. You pick on grammar cause your argument is wrong. This makes you either scum or really really really stupid


Wow, he really is mad.

Yes. I am mad I signed up for another game with you. Wont make that mistake again


I was just trolling you; I honestly never thought you would get this angry.

We cool bro?
Falling’s just like flying, except there’s a more permanent destination.
MrZentor
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1648 Posts
April 09 2012 04:11 GMT
#1485
Also Mattchew, I promise to put flowers on your grave.

You do like flowers, don't you?
Falling’s just like flying, except there’s a more permanent destination.
MrZentor
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1648 Posts
April 09 2012 04:14 GMT
#1488
On April 09 2012 13:13 Mattchew wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2012 13:08 MrZentor wrote:
On April 09 2012 13:07 Mattchew wrote:
On April 09 2012 13:05 MrZentor wrote:
On April 09 2012 13:03 Mattchew wrote:
oh and zentor, you suck and i really hope your scum

grammar nazi the shit outta you're, your, because in reality on an internet forum it doesn't matter as long as the receiver understands the message. You pick on grammar cause your argument is wrong. This makes you either scum or really really really stupid


Wow, he really is mad.

Yes. I am mad I signed up for another game with you. Wont make that mistake again


I was just trolling you; I honestly never thought you would get this angry.

We cool bro?

oh so you admit you don't care about the game. and now you are back peddling cause I was mean. idc about your apology I am hoping for you to be scum.


I care about the game; I thought making you angry would be a good way to get a read on you.

If it helps any, I'm pretty confident that you're town, and if I had the ability to save you, I would. <3
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