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On April 02 2012 05:46 EchelonTee wrote:
Want to hear my opinion of gonzaw? The fact that he writes really big posts every time means it is hard to dissect his reads. The fact that other people have acted wildly anti-town (sinensis/MrZ sigh...) means that he gets a free pass to look townie if he writes look townie for no good reason. He has also been pushing, in my opinion, townies all game. But is this hard evidence? Nope! am I willing to bet losing this game? Nope!!!! So I push people who I see as more scummy. You calling me suspicious for playing optimally isn't you being dumb; you're smarter than this. You're pulling the strings lol.
Wait, if you don't think I'm scum, why do you even point this out?
Apparently you think sloosh+DYH+froggy are scum, so why did you even post that?
Saying "he looks townie but he could be scum just having a free pass" isn't valid at all.
If you find me suspicious then point out things that make me suspicious, if not then do EXACTLY what you said we should do and "focus on a handful of candidates".
He has also been pushing, in my opinion, townies all game
So you think Blue is town? Why? Prove it to us
What do you think about Sinensis?
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Did he give more evidence than just that?
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EBWOP:
Just checked:
On March 30 2012 14:13 EchelonTee wrote:I disagree that sinensis's play is "quite different" in normal mini mafia I. The only difference I see is that when people are now accusing sinensis, he doesn't fly into a relentless rage; that's the experience that sinensis has gained. If you look at his filter this game, he commented on a lot of different topics throughout the day and put a stance down. did he make big fat posts? nope. sinensis just works off a different diet, and it doesn't sound poisonoues to me.
Ex: there's a difference between there's these two posts: Show nested quote +On March 28 2012 11:51 Sinensis wrote:Back from work. On March 28 2012 11:00 Cyber_Cheese wrote:I've been using a simple system to keep track of people, and I have the game solved. It's just a matter of waiting it out now. + Show Spoiler [gg] + So you just alignment claimed soviet for the second time? You are also grouping people based on Nationality. Only one class benefits from grouping based on Nationality, so indeed, gg Nazi. ##vote: Cyber_Cheese says why he wants to vote and does it decisively. Show nested quote +On March 28 2012 23:18 MrZentor wrote:
##Vote Cyber_Cheese
I'm voting for reasons I explained very early in the thread. references earlier, very intangible reasons. makes it look like he put forth a decent case on C_C when he never rly did. both are short votes, but you have to read into tone. Sinensis has been decently forthright
Doesn't seem too convincing to me
ET, if you still think Sinensis is a "hapless" townie, then what do you think about the cases brought against him now?
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What the hell?
Okay, we have like 1% chance of winning this, and the only way we can do it is by this:
IF YOU ARE THE US DT DON'T CLAIM AT ALL!
Why? Because scum will know NOT to kill you, since you are US. They have to kill the remaining SU from 4 remaining townies in 3 nights, in which case they will most surely get him even if we lynch all of them.
Also, it seems there are 2 Godfathers, meaning his checks will most likely be useless:
Will Godfathers return "Innocent" to both the KGB Agent and the US DT?
Okay people, Blue was not shot, meaning we certainly don't have a vig.
Do we kill him or Sinensis today?
@DYH: Please reread all filters and the thread and tell us exactly who you want lynched.
Out of Blue or Sinensis, who do you prefer to lynch?
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No one?
Ah fuck this.
We might get more support of a Sinensis lynch right now, considering even some people think Blue is town.
##Vote: Sinensis
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@froggy: There's the chance sloOsh slipped he was SU or even DT at some point, but maybe that's unlikely.
He was pretty vocal, and was pushing the people that are likely scum, so killing him to have less "opposition" makes sense from their POV.
Apart from that there's no much to say. ET did go against sloosh last night, why would he FoS him if he was going to kill him at night?
Like you said, it's WIFOM.
I'm waiting for his response to sloosh's death.
Who do you think is scum now ET?
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Maybe they did check sloosh, but could they really have 2 GFs AND a DT? May be a little to much in terms of scum power.
Also I doubt a scum DT had anything to do with the 2 SU townies we got lynched.
Either way, ET respond my question, who do you think is scum now?
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So Sinensis, would you even try to do something else this game?
Seriously, it's like you don't even care anymore. If you were town, your misslynch would cost us the game.
I guess your team would just want to try and snipe the remaining SU townie then and not even care about trying to defend themselves, etc?
You may though, your chances of doing so are great, but there's also the chance you miss; and there we win.
Finding the 4th scum will be harder though.
@zelblade, what do you think of this? Will you vote Sinensis or look at another candidate?
If so, who other players do you think are scum?
@DYH: Do something dude, I think you've had enough time to read the thread and filters, tell us your thoughts.
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Stayed awake later than usual lol
Okay then, I await both of your thoughts.
Mods, isn't 5 considered majority this day? Because Sinensis only has 4 votes on him, yet he is still marked as red in the OP
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@Mods: Oh right, forgot it was only about total voters 
Okay, it seems we arrived at an agreement.
If you are a townie DON'T VOTE ANYONE ELSE OTHER THAN SINENSIS!
If you are a townie, and the day ends with you voting another townie, then scum can make a last-minute switch towards this player and instantly win the game.
This happened on Newbie IV where I was scum, and I'm sure scum already thought about it, so ALL of us need to be on Sinensis by the time the day ends.
If one of us IS NOT on Sinensis, but Sinensis is still lynched and flips red, it either means you are scum, or your target is scum (since scum wouldn't switch their votes at the last minute).
So unless your vote is on Bluelightz or lucky enough to be on one of the other 2 scum, then just don't risk us the game and keep your vote on Sinensis.
@Blue: I'm wondering what explanation you could give that I'm scum by this point lol
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@DYH: What do you think about other players then?
I agree that we have plenty of time finding the remaining scum though lol (assuming Blue is scum and we lynch him tomorrow).
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bump
Don't let this game go yellow 
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So you'd be willing to lynch Blue tomorrow if Sinensis flips scum?
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Because lynching Blue tomorrow if Sinensis flips town is impossible...?
Really, you keep nitpicking the wording of my posts to discredit me or something, say I'm on "your plate" or something, but you don't even think I'm scum?
Seems to me that you and Blue are doing this to try and get me lynched later.
I think you are bussing Sinensis at this point, and you are even bussing Blue. At least that gives you 2 more nights to snipe the remaining SU and if you don't you could convince people you are town because you were on 2 scum lynches.
But I wouldn't want to deal with that now, we need to focus ENTIRELY on very few candidates (Sinensis+Blue at this moment) if we ever want to win this at all.
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I won't make a case against you right now because like I said we don't need distractions from today's lynch.
Also, it's not about presenting "cases". I don't need to put a gigantic post explaining why I find you scummy, if I don't plan on voting you right now and having people follow it.
I pressured you since D1, asked you questions which you responded pretty sub-par; and constantly said why I find you suspicious these days. That's enough.
However, you haven't done any of the sort against me, yet you still think I'm "suspicious" somehow (which again is one of the reason I find you scummy).
I am leaning towards froggy or zelblade as the remaining scum; but I will look at it better at Night.
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How does that make him scum? Blue posted in another game that his wifi was fixed; all of us could have seen that, not only scum.
Although I advice not taking things from outside the game into consideration, since it's against the rules right?
Anyways, I'm going away for some time in 1 hour or so, but hopefully I'm back before the flip.
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Woot I'm back
So, isn't the flip in 10 minutes or not? There's nobody around lol
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The flip is now right?
Or am I getting this wrong? :S
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Oh there we go
Told you Blue was scum >_>
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