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Zealos
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom3576 Posts
March 27 2012 16:11 GMT
#1058
I'm split between Acro and Matt for lynching tomorrow, but at the moment Risen flipping DT is just too great an evidence to ignore, so I'll be voting Acro for now.
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Zealos
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March 27 2012 17:13 GMT
#1067
On March 28 2012 01:59 Mattchew wrote:
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On March 27 2012 16:28 Zealos wrote:
What the, how does this even :X
Well, I guess we've gotta be very suspicious of Acro at this point.
@Mattchew Considering the town's activeness, it's better you post it sooner rather than later. Posting reads right before deadline means some people won't see it on time + Limits discussion.

Missed this piece of shit post.
i am posting it before a night deadline... giving people 48 hours to read and discuss.

Calling it a shit post is just another poor attempt of yours to cause problems within the town? But fair enough, I thought you meant right before the post deadline :3
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Zealos
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March 27 2012 17:35 GMT
#1070
But a disrupted town atmosphere aids mafia, not town.
I have suspicions toward you, though I am more inclined to say you're just an annoying townie.
I'll post a better answer to that question when the day starts, I wanna have a good read over the thread/filters to decide.
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Zealos
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March 27 2012 17:37 GMT
#1071
I would also say that I'm not 100% sure acro is scum, though he is by far the best lynch for tomorrow.
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March 27 2012 20:47 GMT
#1079
The 2nd comment was a responce to something Risen said. I was never 100% that I wanted to vote for him, and should the same situation occur, I'd vote for the same person. As for my 2 last posts, neither of them claim I am 100%, they're pretty similar. 1st - I'll be voting acro for now
2nd - Not 100% sure, but best lynch for tomorrow.

I however, am waiting with baited breath for Mattchew's current reads, because I feel that he is contributing little to nothing so far.
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March 27 2012 20:48 GMT
#1080
Oh, and Alderan, can I ask who you think is town?
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March 28 2012 10:03 GMT
#1117
On March 28 2012 06:32 Mattchew wrote:
My Scum (aka to-lynch) List = Acrofales, Zealos, Xatalos, Lyter, Evantrees
But Mattchew, there are 5 names and only 4 scum. WTF?
I believe if we lynch this list we get the scum team.



Acrofales has a red-check on him from a confirmed DT, he needs to be lynched tomorrow no matter what. Thats all, end of story.



Zealos This is my strongest scum read.

First we have his contradictions with how to interact with WBG. He seems to be selectively deaf to WBG using him only to his personal benefit as seen here.
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On March 22 2012 03:29 Zealos wrote:
On the topic of Wherebugsgo, I'd love to completely ignore him if possible, though I doubt that will end up happening....

On March 22 2012 03:57 Zealos wrote:
I think our best bet in regard to WBG is to completely ignore his posts, unless he gives us damn good reason not to.

On March 25 2012 23:36 Zealos wrote:
Risen seems to be the hot topic, so I'll start with him
I'm calling him as Mafia
My biggest reasons for this is that he consistently switches topics to talk about wbg, even though it is widely agreed that we should just be ignoring him

On March 27 2012 03:04 Zealos wrote:

Most of this argument is explained in easy to understand terms by WBG:
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On March 26 2012 06:39 wherebugsgo wrote:
On March 26 2012 06:34 Risen wrote:
I'm done for a while. Can't keep arguing in circles. I think my logic is clear, you don't. It's over.


herp derp I wanted a rolechecker to check Mattchew herp derp without even checking that there was a rolechecker herp derp my logic makes sense no matter what you say herp derp despite the fact that you just showed it's complete shit herp derp herp

Sounds more like, "before I had the foresight to plan a DT claim I tried directing DTs into Mattchew and now I'm grasping at straws trying to make the statement make sense in retrospect"



On March 26 2012 06:42 Zealos wrote:
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On March 26 2012 06:39 wherebugsgo wrote:
On March 26 2012 06:34 Risen wrote:
I'm done for a while. Can't keep arguing in circles. I think my logic is clear, you don't. It's over.

Sounds more like, "before I had the foresight to plan a DT claim I tried directing DTs into Mattchew and now I'm grasping at straws trying to make the statement make sense in retrospect"


Exactly my argument.

Then we have Zealos arguing in absolutes about Risen flipping scum. This feels like him trying to blend in with the majority opinion. Also, if Risen wasn't lynched its a backhanded way of saving Acro from lynch by discrediting Risen's DT claim.
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On March 26 2012 05:21 Zealos wrote:
Risen first, when he inevitably flips vanilla scum we can move on.

On March 27 2012 02:35 Zealos wrote:
My argument against risen is not that he isn't playing well, but that he is lying. Lying is either mafia, or a town that is detrimental to the town atmosphere. Either way - Lynch.


He also constantly flirts with the topic of getting me lynched but never actually pushes it. He is waiting for it to actually gain momentum before he pushes it.He also constantly flirts with the topic of getting me lynched but never actually pushes it. He is waiting for it to actually gain momentum before he pushes it.
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On March 23 2012 04:43 Zealos wrote:
@Acro
Matthew is... Weird. He makes some perfectly valid points, but also seems to make some rather moot ones. Although looking at the filter, he makes a LOT of accusations, without having all that much reason. For instance
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oh so your his scum teammate?

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explain to me why you are not scum.

you have 90 minutes

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then MrZentor, bad reading comprehension in hand, makes a terrible post with his lead point of his slippery slope theory being untrue because Mattchew (who is awesome, sexy and lover of all townies) never even voted for Acrofales!

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i say we lynch acrofales and everyone that has defended him

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I would be all about a Xatalos lynching today. He posts reek of "I want to look like the rest of you"

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We should lynch Oberyn

He seems to constantly switch targets, and it seems like he wants to stir up confusion. Although he almost seems too obvious in the way he does it, which could just be bad town.

Summary: I would certainly say suspicious, but not 100% mafia yet, but should no better targets appear, would be a reasonable day 1 lynch.

On March 23 2012 04:44 Zealos wrote:
Not to mention him being incredibly anti Acrofales.

He never votes me and his vote ends up as THE ONLY VOTE on Oberyn?

On March 27 2012 04:03 Zealos wrote:
Ok, I was going to wait until tomorrow, however, his most recent post just tipped me over the edge.
Mattchew is the 2nd mafia, and my lynch choice for tomorrow.
He very rarely makes useful posts, and right from the start has posted a ton of spam and filler.
Examples:
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On March 22 2012 00:25 Mattchew wrote:
lolololololol

im going to assume this is sandroba?

oh so your his scum teammate?

explain to me why you are not scum.

you have 90 minutes

where you at homeslice and why should i think you are not scum

wut?

OMG 5 WHOLE POSTS ABOUT HIM 3 OF WHICH ARE NOT EVEN SERIOUS? NO WAYYYYY

wbg you know better than that, I thought you wanted to help town

i said it here too herpderp speaking in absolutes is not scum slipping herpderp

my first game ever where I was scared to post.
(Apparently not)
[image loading]

me and SLG <3 vague posts.
(Irony)

btw defense is completely overrated. I do it cause i have too much fucking time to hawk the thread


I'm down with ignoring risen wbg acro And mr zentos completely

Welcome to TL Mafia.

wut?

you have to be joking

When was the last time he made a decent case against anyone? He appears to stir up controversy and limit discussion wherever he goes.
He's also one of the only people really defending Risen, so there could be a possible link there. However, this will be much more apparent should Risen flip mafia tonight (Assuming lynch)

Case against Mattchew. Cool. Terrible case with a ton of quotes taken out of context. Vaguely calling them all spam and having no content. Oh and I defended the town DT, this should of ended his “case” and “pressure" right there but then we have…
On March 27 2012 20:56 Zealos wrote:
Mattchew, can you make a good case instead of posting annoying 1 liners designed to stir up controversy, or should I just vote for you now?

Fine, you don’t like my posting style... lynch me… But after reading how obvious it is to lynch acro, Zealos has a brand new (wishy-washy) trying to blend in point of view.
On March 28 2012 01:11 Zealos wrote:
I'm split between Acro and Matt for lynching tomorrow, but at the moment Risen flipping DT is just too great an evidence to ignore, so I'll be voting Acro for now.

Well no shit. But since you can’t edit the fact you had to see the majority of town think this first screams of scummy agenda trying to get a mislynch on me.
On March 28 2012 02:35 Zealos wrote:
But a disrupted town atmosphere aids mafia, not town.
I have suspicions toward you, though I am more inclined to say you're just an annoying townie.
I'll post a better answer to that question when the day starts, I wanna have a good read over the thread/filters to decide.

Wait…. HOLD THE FUCKING PHONE… I am NOW just an annoying TOWNIE??????? WHAT THE FUCK… There isn’t even close to a reason for this, just straight up change of opinion. (wish wash wish wash wish wash)
On March 28 2012 02:37 Zealos wrote:
I would also say that I'm not 100% sure acro is scum, though he is by far the best lynch for tomorrow.

Oh man lets cover all the bases and not take a lick of responsibility for anything!

I quoted this in there but i would love to point out this scum-slip. He somehow knows he will be alive after the night post
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On March 28 2012 02:35 Zealos wrote:
I'll post a better answer to that question when the day starts, I wanna have a good read over the thread/filters to decide.

Furthermore he tries to do the trendy townie thing of pressuring people by way of vote. Man does he really get swayed quickly
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On March 22 2012 04:12 Zealos wrote:
#Original Name
Lets try to get him talking

On March 23 2012 04:58 Zealos wrote:
Well, my vote was to provoke a post like that, which is good enough for me.
##unvote

1 post, that wasn't even very good. That's it. This screams of nervous scum

This case is farrrrrrr from hinging on Acro flipping scum, but if he were to, tell me these posts don't scream of an attempt to coach a teammate while "pressuring" him
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On March 22 2012 22:17 Zealos wrote:
My thoughts:
Acro:
Why have you still not given some definitive thoughts? I asked a couple of pages ago and there is still nothing, are you just avoiding the question? The only people you say should be lynched atm are Lurkers, of which I am one, even though I have been fairly active. You made a point against gumshoe but haven't really elaborated or spoken of it since. I want to see you actually follow through on what you are saying.
So overall, so far, my Lynch list would be:
1. Acro

In response to Acro posting a case (on me)
On March 22 2012 23:46 Zealos wrote:
I think it is good that you have made an argument against someone using substance, however, it is somewhat less poignient given the substance of his latest post. However, you have constructed a more useful post and formed an opinion, so although I am still a little susipcious, as you basically back down from your own argument, I will change my vote for the time being.


Finally we have these 2 quotes which are just so bad they actually look like scum agenda.
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On March 27 2012 01:31 Zealos wrote:
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On March 26 2012 21:50 Mattchew wrote:
On March 26 2012 20:55 Zealos wrote:
Also as one final nail in the coffin Risen, if you were dt and sure that acro was scum, why bother checking him at all?
wut?

It's pretty simple. If you are sure someone is mafia, then checking them isn't useful.

On March 27 2012 05:19 Zealos wrote:
Perfect, new person, fresh perspective. Top 3 lynch tagets Jitsu?

I AM SCARED OF THE NEW GUY TELL ME WHAT YOU KNOW!



Xatalos I have been calling him scum and asking for opinions on him all game. Ald also did a pretty nice post on him

*click me*My First case

*click me*Ald on Xat

I'll try to not be redundant.
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On March 27 2012 21:36 Xatalos wrote:
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On March 27 2012 20:17 Mattchew wrote:
On March 27 2012 19:08 Xatalos wrote:
I'm a bit curious about his breadcrumbs though... Is he preparing for a roleclaim later? Like MrZentor did with his "code"? If worse comes to worst, we might lose another blue this way... I'd say shooting him is still a good bet though, or we might waste day 3 completely AND end up using the lynch on Acrofales anyway.

Oh so you want to out more blues?

Cool. Thanks for claiming scum in thread


Could you make an actual case against me instead of throwing a one liner at me every time I say something? The way I see it, you just panicked after I made my initial lynch vote for you and started throwing baseless one liners at me to somehow make yourself look "less suspicious" by making me look "more suspicious". All this seems like a scared counter-pressure to shift the attention away from yourself. Frankly, I can't think of a reason why a townie would be tunneling so hard on me after I merely made an analytic decision to vote for you (although I switched to gumshoe after I saw his newer posts). The only conclusion I can think of is that you are a Mafia player trying to get me lynched (not very skillfully, I might add), only because I suspected you.

I see you made some sort of a "case" against me right after I voted for you, which revolved around me being a bit unsure on who to lynch. This is my first game game of Mafia (in a forum), so of course I wouldn't be 100% confident and decisive in my first posts, but I've been trying to improve and I think I'm a lot more confident in my skills now (there aren't many veterans here either, so it's not really necessary to trust other people's opinions...). And what of it if I use smilies every now and then?

Please, make a good case against me or stop that useless spam!

Funny because Xatalos has yet to make a case on anyone. He took the retarded WBG "lynch Risen" logic of "He is playing too bad to be scum" and translated that into 2 lengthy contentless posts and threw in some thread observations (no real opinions on anything just recaps)
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On March 27 2012 23:00 Xatalos wrote:
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On March 27 2012 21:50 Acrofales wrote:
Okay, I'll bite. You're also following the same stupid reasoning here that Greymist, risk.nuke and Mattchew want to jump on. You suspect I might be blue, but you think it is better to kill me than confirm? Losing a vigi and a DT isn't enough for you?


I'm not saying you are a blue, I'm saying I'm 50/50 on whether you are a Mafia pretending to be a blue or an actual blue. There's no way you're a green townie, with your breadcrumbing pointing at a specific role. I don't personally think you're the best lynch target either, but since most people seem focused on lynching you tomorrow, vigi shooting you would save day 3 from being wasted on your lynch (no matter if you're Mafia or town).

(I have to say though, if Risen hadn't flipped DT, you would seem like the more convincing blue so far. But if day 3 is going to be wasted on your lynch anyway, there's not much point to leave you alive for tomorrow...).

He is wishy washy while coming to obscure conclusions. Even I will entertain the thought that Acro is vanilla town but Xatalos seems convinced he's a blue? This is bizarre and looks like he has been hunting for blues breadcrumbs all game. (Townies should only care about who is town and who is scum, not who has a role.)


Also, if you take the time to read through his filter you can see he is still blaming things on this being his first game. This smells of scum trying to compensate for slipping up by saying "oh I didn't know any better".




Alas I have ran out of time (6:00PM EST Class) Lyter and evantrees are lurking and scummy. HA!


What an awful case on me. The idea of me coaching Acro as a scum teammate has gotta be some of the biggest crap I've ever read. Why would I post it in the main thread instaed of just putting it in the mafia thread?
Also, me asking jitsu about his lynch targets scummy? If you follow that logic, that is pretty much all you've done ALL GAME so you've gotta be scum on your own logic?
And lets say I was scum, and knew that Risen wasn't mafia then why would I be the one posting the hardest case agaisnt him even though he was almost certainly gonna get lynched anyway?
Now I'm done defending myself agaisnt your cesspool of a case, I'll go back to looking for scum
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Zealos
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom3576 Posts
March 28 2012 19:04 GMT
#1173
To be honest Mattchew, I have nothing more to defend myself from. The town can read the thread so far, and make an educated decision about whether I am town or scum. I'll be looking over what has been said so far now we know you're town and acro scum, and see about a viable next target.
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Zealos
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March 29 2012 08:21 GMT
#1197
I think with Mattchew still playing and trying to lead the town on with his terrible leads is gonna lead to a mafia win, that being said, he clearly isn't scum.
I wanna hear more from Greymist
##vote Greymist
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Zealos
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March 29 2012 08:43 GMT
#1198
Lol, night time, derp.
Though after reading over Grey's filter it does seem "Convineint" that whenever the town gets a false lead such as risen, he becomes quiet and leaves us to lynch him, no words for or agaisnt.
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United Kingdom3576 Posts
March 29 2012 12:35 GMT
#1200
Changed my mind, I'll vote for someone that no one else suspects, because then I'll look unique and townie. Mattchew, please, stop being an idiot, it doesn't matter what I say or do at this point, you've decided in your screwed up logic that I'm mafia, so please, lynch me, so the rest of the town see's what a retard you are and stops listening to your bullshit reads.
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Zealos
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United Kingdom3576 Posts
March 29 2012 15:18 GMT
#1205
On March 29 2012 21:46 GreYMisT wrote:
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On March 29 2012 17:43 Zealos wrote:
Lol, night time, derp.
Though after reading over Grey's filter it does seem "Convineint" that whenever the town gets a false lead such as risen, he becomes quiet and leaves us to lynch him, no words for or agaisnt.


I voted for risen....

Yes, but without much reasoning, and you seemed to be pretty happy just to blend in.
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Zealos
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March 29 2012 18:36 GMT
#1214
I really don't understand what makes me a good lynch target. Day 1 I called out Acro for being suspicious for his first post. I mean, I might have been trying to blend in, but it surely it would have been easier and less suspicious for Acro had I not said anything? Also, when Risen was being lynched anyway, surely as a mafia it would have been better to just vote and not say much, instead I was the one most pushing for the lynch. Why would I put the effort forward to do that as mafia if I knew that he was going to be killed anyway?
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March 29 2012 18:51 GMT
#1217
On March 30 2012 03:43 Mattchew wrote:
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On March 30 2012 03:29 Xatalos wrote:

Zealos: Apparently some think he's suspicious, but I don't really see it. He's been very active, contributing and created a pro-town atmosphere. Unless I see something damning from him, I'm not willing to vote for him. Verdict: Bad lynch.

So he has been "active, contributing and created a pro-town atmosphere." 2 of these have literally 0 to do with alignment. And his dumbass argument with me about Risen was actually disruptive as fuck to the thread during that day.
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risk.nuke: I was a bit suspicious of him after his first posts, but his later posts have been a lot more contributive. I'm not sold on either his innocence or guiltiness yet. Verdict: Medium lynch.

"If you guys start to vote risk.nuke i will too because he's town and I like lynching townies" - this paraphrased
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Alderan: He hasn't contributed very much, but isn't really a lurker either. Not a very bad lynch choice, but not among the best. Verdict: Medium lynch.

chaoser: Clearly has experience in playing, but hasn't contributed much, disregarding some of the more trivial discussion. A semi-lurker who doesn't look very pro-town, but not anti-town either. Verdict: Medium lynch.

Lyter: Has contributed little and posted seldom. Something feels off, but not a top lynch yet. Verdict: Medium lynch.

sinensis: Doesn't look very interested in adding to the discussion, voting without much explanation or contribution. Apparently suspects evantrees mainly, but doesn't push his lynch other than voting for him. Verdict: Medium lynch.

evantrees: A hardcore lurker without real contribution. Certainly feels a bit suspicious, but could also be a disinterested townie. Verdict: Medium lynch.

Wish-wash no firm stance
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GreYMisT: Also an experienced player, but hasn't contributed much or often. Was the runner-up in day 1 lynch, but wasn't voted by even a single Mafia player. Both him and chaoser haven't done much to help town, but GreYMisT feels more suspicious to me. Verdict: Good lynch.

meh idk. I haven't seen a decent case against greymist and it looks like risk.nuke's relentless pushing (without much content) is snowballing up.

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So, I'll probably be voting for GreYMisT tomorrow if I can.

barring unforeseen circumstances I cannot see this being a good decision.

I know this might be shocking, and really hard for you to understand, but when 2 people disagree and argue, it's both people arguing. If you don't like me disagreeing with you then disagree, but don't try to make a vote out of it.
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Zealos
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United Kingdom3576 Posts
March 29 2012 19:34 GMT
#1221
You actually mean... I tried to... Justify my vote instead of just blending in with the crowd. Wow, as a mafia I really fucked that one up eh?
I'm also going to stop responding to you Mattchew (Which I should have done ages ago) Because it is just a back and forth getting no where and tunneling the discussion.

I want to hear from Xata and Grey.
Thoughts on people's suspicions?
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March 29 2012 20:50 GMT
#1223
So Grey, you planning on defending yourself or switching the topic back to me again?
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Zealos
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March 30 2012 07:22 GMT
#1239
This game is so stupid at this point.
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Zealos
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March 30 2012 07:27 GMT
#1240
Well, I may as well stick with my idea of Grey.
##Vote Greymist
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March 30 2012 10:13 GMT
#1243
I know, I won't vote until near the deadline for the voting thread. The votes in here is just my current desision.
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March 30 2012 15:18 GMT
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Wow, you really do like to pick at every little thing. I do it because I'm lazy, and it's the easiest thing to do. The votes here is the vote I would chose if I were the end of the day. You really are determined for a bandwagon against me, and it's really starting to show.
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