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Zealos
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March 25 2012 21:35 GMT
#931
*Facepalm* I really hope for your sake that you are mafia, because if you flip DT then you are the scummiest town I've ever seen. And the reason I made the argument is to be sure of the lynch today.
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March 25 2012 21:42 GMT
#933
On March 26 2012 06:39 wherebugsgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2012 06:34 Risen wrote:
I'm done for a while. Can't keep arguing in circles. I think my logic is clear, you don't. It's over.

Sounds more like, "before I had the foresight to plan a DT claim I tried directing DTs into Mattchew and now I'm grasping at straws trying to make the statement make sense in retrospect"


Exactly my argument.
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March 26 2012 11:55 GMT
#949
Also as one final nail in the coffin Risen, if you were dt and sure that acro was scum, why bother checking him at all?
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March 26 2012 16:31 GMT
#956
On March 26 2012 21:50 Mattchew wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2012 20:55 Zealos wrote:
Also as one final nail in the coffin Risen, if you were dt and sure that acro was scum, why bother checking him at all?
wut?

It's pretty simple. If you are sure someone is mafia, then checking them isn't useful.
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March 26 2012 16:59 GMT
#963
Not risen then?
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March 26 2012 17:08 GMT
#966
I don't know if I've missed something, but I'm not sure why acro is under doubt?
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March 26 2012 17:30 GMT
#972
On March 27 2012 02:23 Mattchew wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2012 01:31 Zealos wrote:
On March 26 2012 21:50 Mattchew wrote:
On March 26 2012 20:55 Zealos wrote:
Also as one final nail in the coffin Risen, if you were dt and sure that acro was scum, why bother checking him at all?
wut?

It's pretty simple. If you are sure someone is mafia, then checking them isn't useful.

I'll put it this way. I am sure that Xatalos is scum, and if I was a DT I would check him to confirm. Nothing is 100% in this game and there is never too much information. Confirming your beliefs is the most important thing you can do
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2012 02:08 Zealos wrote:
I don't know if I've missed something, but I'm not sure why acro is under doubt?

Risen could be DT and acro could have checked out as scum?

Then by definition you can't be sure. As for acro, if the only argument for him being mafia is Risen being DT then I have no reason to think he's mafia unless Risen flips DT tonight.
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March 26 2012 17:35 GMT
#974
My argument against risen is not that he isn't playing well, but that he is lying. Lying is either mafia, or a town that is detrimental to the town atmosphere. Either way - Lynch.
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March 26 2012 17:37 GMT
#976
Being DT.
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Zealos
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March 26 2012 18:04 GMT
#978
Aha, this is where it gets good, and if you'd had read the thread properly, you'd see I had pretty sound reasoning for this:

On March 24 2012 07:25 Risen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2012 07:21 Acrofales wrote:
On March 24 2012 07:15 GreYMisT wrote:
On March 24 2012 07:10 Acrofales wrote:
Lol. Are we seriously putting our lynch in the hands of either mafia or littlefinger?! This is really retarded. However, I have no idea where to put my vote. My earlier reads were Mattchew, Gumshoe and Zealos. Nobody else seems to want to vote for them, although for the life of me I don't know why not.

I guess I could add Evantrees to my lynch targets, if we're going to policy lynch a hardcore lurker. Another option is to lynch Nicolas. Chaoser said he'll probably be modkilled anyway?

Anything seems better than leaving it so that a mobster switches before the end with some bullshit excuse and we mislynch a townie due to derp. Or WBG jumps and we can't even retaliate by vig shotting him.


You "Guess you could add Evantrees to your lynch targets?" What the crap? This entire post is just asking other people to make decisions for you.

Don't read shit into it that's not there. I don't want to policy-lynch, I want to lynch Mattchew, but that is clearly not going to happen. Rather than wasting my vote there and having whoever the fuck wants switch at the last second to mislynch a useful townie, I'd rather policy-lynch a lurker or someone who's going to get modkilled. I chose the modkilled.

Now stop confusing shit more than it is already and consolidate your own vote somewhere useful, or make a better case against Oberyn, because so far it has been: he's useless. He is a lot LESS useless than Evantrees or Nicolas, so if that's your criteria, your vote's in the wrong place.

I'm almost positive Acro is scum, and Mattchew needs to be checked tonight. VOTE ACROFALES

On March 23 2012 23:08 Risen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2012 21:11 Mattchew wrote:
lol coming from littlefinger i dont suspect it will hold much weight


Unfortunately it does not, we don't know his sanity. If someone were to check you tonight and confirm then maybe it would.

Why on earth if he said this, and he was DT, didn't he check Mattchew last night? It makes no sense whatsoever, instead he claims he checked Acro, and backed up his argument by saying he thought a rolechecker should check Mattchew (derp)
On March 26 2012 07:32 chaoser wrote:
Not to mention even if there was a rolechecker it is a flawed argument, as summed up here by chaoser:
This isn't a good excuse even IF rolechecker WAS a role. Why would you take a risk and depend on someone else to do your job? Why not do it yourself? That doesn't even make any sense. That's like saying, I want to check this guy, but oh well, I won't. I'll check this other guy that I already am sure is mafia and hope that 1) someone else checks the guy I want to know about and 2) they then out themselves somehow to give us that information. WTF?

##vote: risen

Most of this argument is explained in easy to understand terms by WBG:
On March 26 2012 06:39 wherebugsgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2012 06:34 Risen wrote:
I'm done for a while. Can't keep arguing in circles. I think my logic is clear, you don't. It's over.


herp derp I wanted a rolechecker to check Mattchew herp derp without even checking that there was a rolechecker herp derp my logic makes sense no matter what you say herp derp despite the fact that you just showed it's complete shit herp derp herp

Sounds more like, "before I had the foresight to plan a DT claim I tried directing DTs into Mattchew and now I'm grasping at straws trying to make the statement make sense in retrospect"



On top of which, he completely avoids answering my direct question:
On March 26 2012 06:12 Zealos wrote:
Even if you flipped DT, there is no reason that puts me into a scum position. You are just using threats as an attempt to stop me from pressing my case. Give us a good reason to believe you're DT, before I roleclaim as Godfather and claim you're one of my mafia buddies, as your reasoning is that roleclaims are always truthful.


Not to mention calling me and others scum with very very little to no evidence to back up his claims:

On March 26 2012 05:29 Risen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2012 05:21 Zealos wrote:
Risen first, when he inevitably flips vanilla scum we can move on.


EBWOP: And he solidifies his "really dumb townie" position well here (If I didn't make it clear in my previous post I think he's scum, I think Mattchew is scum, and I think Greymist is scum). He'll OMGUS me once I'm lynched and be in the clear. He deserves looking into tonight, imo.


The only argument he's made against anyone is the whole "I'm DT, lynch Acro" Doesn't this smack you as mindbogglingly stupid?
Risen is the lynch we should make today, with absolutely no exceptions, he is super scummy.
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Zealos
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom3576 Posts
March 26 2012 18:06 GMT
#980
Oh, and the only argument against me is that I am voting and making a case against him. If anyone can show me anything he's done right, he might have some kind of defense.
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Zealos
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom3576 Posts
March 26 2012 18:23 GMT
#983
That post was... incredibly irrelevant? I'm saying as anything, whether or not he is DT, what has he done pro-town?
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Zealos
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom3576 Posts
March 26 2012 18:50 GMT
#993
On March 27 2012 03:26 Mattchew wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2012 03:04 Zealos wrote:
Aha, this is where it gets good, and if you'd had read the thread properly, you'd see I had pretty sound reasoning for this:

On March 24 2012 07:25 Risen wrote:
On March 24 2012 07:21 Acrofales wrote:
On March 24 2012 07:15 GreYMisT wrote:
On March 24 2012 07:10 Acrofales wrote:
Lol. Are we seriously putting our lynch in the hands of either mafia or littlefinger?! This is really retarded. However, I have no idea where to put my vote. My earlier reads were Mattchew, Gumshoe and Zealos. Nobody else seems to want to vote for them, although for the life of me I don't know why not.

I guess I could add Evantrees to my lynch targets, if we're going to policy lynch a hardcore lurker. Another option is to lynch Nicolas. Chaoser said he'll probably be modkilled anyway?

Anything seems better than leaving it so that a mobster switches before the end with some bullshit excuse and we mislynch a townie due to derp. Or WBG jumps and we can't even retaliate by vig shotting him.


You "Guess you could add Evantrees to your lynch targets?" What the crap? This entire post is just asking other people to make decisions for you.

Don't read shit into it that's not there. I don't want to policy-lynch, I want to lynch Mattchew, but that is clearly not going to happen. Rather than wasting my vote there and having whoever the fuck wants switch at the last second to mislynch a useful townie, I'd rather policy-lynch a lurker or someone who's going to get modkilled. I chose the modkilled.

Now stop confusing shit more than it is already and consolidate your own vote somewhere useful, or make a better case against Oberyn, because so far it has been: he's useless. He is a lot LESS useless than Evantrees or Nicolas, so if that's your criteria, your vote's in the wrong place.

I'm almost positive Acro is scum, and Mattchew needs to be checked tonight. VOTE ACROFALES

On March 23 2012 23:08 Risen wrote:
On March 23 2012 21:11 Mattchew wrote:
lol coming from littlefinger i dont suspect it will hold much weight


Unfortunately it does not, we don't know his sanity. If someone were to check you tonight and confirm then maybe it would.

Why on earth if he said this, and he was DT, didn't he check Mattchew last night? It makes no sense whatsoever, instead he claims he checked Acro, and backed up his argument by saying he thought a rolechecker should check Mattchew (derp)

Once again, if you are DT and you think someone is scum you check them. You always confirm them. He could have checked me the next night.
-You're argument "He did the wrong thing"
Show nested quote +

On March 26 2012 07:32 chaoser wrote:
Not to mention even if there was a rolechecker it is a flawed argument, as summed up here by chaoser:
This isn't a good excuse even IF rolechecker WAS a role. Why would you take a risk and depend on someone else to do your job? Why not do it yourself? That doesn't even make any sense. That's like saying, I want to check this guy, but oh well, I won't. I'll check this other guy that I already am sure is mafia and hope that 1) someone else checks the guy I want to know about and 2) they then out themselves somehow to give us that information. WTF?

##vote: risen

Most of this argument is explained in easy to understand terms by WBG:
On March 26 2012 06:39 wherebugsgo wrote:
On March 26 2012 06:34 Risen wrote:
I'm done for a while. Can't keep arguing in circles. I think my logic is clear, you don't. It's over.


herp derp I wanted a rolechecker to check Mattchew herp derp without even checking that there was a rolechecker herp derp my logic makes sense no matter what you say herp derp despite the fact that you just showed it's complete shit herp derp herp

Sounds more like, "before I had the foresight to plan a DT claim I tried directing DTs into Mattchew and now I'm grasping at straws trying to make the statement make sense in retrospect"



The rolechecker thing is the only thing I don't understand. The desperation of explaining himself is a little scummy. Also, for giggles
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2012 03:29 Zealos wrote:
On the topic of Wherebugsgo, I'd love to completely ignore him if possible, though I doubt that will end up happening....

Show nested quote +

On top of which, he completely avoids answering my direct question:
On March 26 2012 06:12 Zealos wrote:
Even if you flipped DT, there is no reason that puts me into a scum position. You are just using threats as an attempt to stop me from pressing my case. Give us a good reason to believe you're DT, before I roleclaim as Godfather and claim you're one of my mafia buddies, as your reasoning is that roleclaims are always truthful.


Not to mention calling me and others scum with very very little to no evidence to back up his claims:

On March 26 2012 05:29 Risen wrote:
On March 26 2012 05:21 Zealos wrote:
Risen first, when he inevitably flips vanilla scum we can move on.


EBWOP: And he solidifies his "really dumb townie" position well here (If I didn't make it clear in my previous post I think he's scum, I think Mattchew is scum, and I think Greymist is scum). He'll OMGUS me once I'm lynched and be in the clear. He deserves looking into tonight, imo.


The only argument he's made against anyone is the whole "I'm DT, lynch Acro" Doesn't this smack you as mindbogglingly stupid?
Risen is the lynch we should make today, with absolutely no exceptions, he is super scummy.

This all reads "I'm mad."

It all it reads is "I'm mad" then you clearly need to read better. What reasoning do we have to believe he is DT?
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Zealos
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom3576 Posts
March 26 2012 19:03 GMT
#999
Ok, I was going to wait until tomorrow, however, his most recent post just tipped me over the edge.
Mattchew is the 2nd mafia, and my lynch choice for tomorrow.
He very rarely makes useful posts, and right from the start has posted a ton of spam and filler.
Examples:
On March 22 2012 00:25 Mattchew wrote:
lolololololol

im going to assume this is sandroba?

oh so your his scum teammate?

explain to me why you are not scum.

you have 90 minutes

where you at homeslice and why should i think you are not scum

wut?

OMG 5 WHOLE POSTS ABOUT HIM 3 OF WHICH ARE NOT EVEN SERIOUS? NO WAYYYYY

wbg you know better than that, I thought you wanted to help town

i said it here too herpderp speaking in absolutes is not scum slipping herpderp

my first game ever where I was scared to post.
(Apparently not)
[image loading]

me and SLG <3 vague posts.
(Irony)

btw defense is completely overrated. I do it cause i have too much fucking time to hawk the thread


I'm down with ignoring risen wbg acro And mr zentos completely

Welcome to TL Mafia.

wut?

you have to be joking

When was the last time he made a decent case against anyone? He appears to stir up controversy and limit discussion wherever he goes.
He's also one of the only people really defending Risen, so there could be a possible link there. However, this will be much more apparent should Risen flip mafia tonight (Assuming lynch)
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Zealos
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom3576 Posts
March 26 2012 19:22 GMT
#1002
Because sheeping like that is very scummy imo.
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Zealos
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom3576 Posts
March 26 2012 20:19 GMT
#1006
Perfect, new person, fresh perspective. Top 3 lynch tagets Jitsu?
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Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom3576 Posts
March 26 2012 20:44 GMT
#1009
Oh yeah mate, I'm not expecting it in the next 10 mins or anything, take your time
Just interested to see what a fresh person thinks of current ongoings.
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Zealos
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom3576 Posts
March 27 2012 07:28 GMT
#1032
What the, how does this even :X
Well, I guess we've gotta be very suspicious of Acro at this point.
@Mattchew Considering the town's activeness, it's better you post it sooner rather than later. Posting reads right before deadline means some people won't see it on time + Limits discussion.
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United Kingdom3576 Posts
March 27 2012 09:59 GMT
#1038
On March 27 2012 18:40 risk.nuke wrote:
We don't need a case, we got a redcheck. Acro. Sit down shut up.

Mods can we have a 24 hour day today if town agrees on it? There won't be or well you don't know with the ratio of morons in this city but there shouldn't be much confusion about who we're lynching.

This is never good for town, even if we know who we are lynching, we should still make progress towards the next days lynch ect.
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Zealos
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United Kingdom3576 Posts
March 27 2012 11:56 GMT
#1044
Mattchew, can you make a good case instead of posting annoying 1 liners designed to stir up controversy, or should I just vote for you now?
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