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johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
March 19 2012 03:23 GMT
#319
I'm not attacking you VE. Dunno why you're being ignored right now, but a couple hours ago you were the loudest voice.

And Jackal is certainly someone to keep an eye on.
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
March 19 2012 03:28 GMT
#322
On March 18 2012 09:18 VisceraEyes wrote:
When I said Jackal was 'feigning' a read, I meant that he was, as Jackal said, 'yanking my chain'...that while I can see him thinking that the way I'm playing is "off" (this is a new style I'm trying out) he didn't really come to the ultimate conclusion that I'm scum based on my posts, and that he was instead faking a red-read on me to guage my reaction to the pressure. Because you're wrong, not only scum 'fake reads'...scum have to make 'fake cases' but both town and scum can 'fake reads' for any number of reasons.

The main case against your lynch of VE is that he's trying a new style, which by default makes his posts very different than other games
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
March 19 2012 03:33 GMT
#323
against your argument of his posting being different than other games where he was very helpful, that is
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
March 19 2012 03:49 GMT
#329
VE, may I ask whats with the bullshit empty compliments?
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
March 19 2012 04:25 GMT
#335
he does still want me lynched, hes made that much clear. he just has a better candidate in mind, seems like
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
March 19 2012 05:10 GMT
#346
On March 18 2012 15:54 Tobon wrote:
That important message having been said, at the moment I'm with Nemesis and slOosh. Johnnywup's behavior is coming across to me as townie deer in headlights, rather than amphibian-god-napping scum. On the other hand, grilling the newb to get some sort of reaction is very positive townie behavior as well. Hmph. I don't trust my own reads much.

I think we'll get the most real solid info out of the voting for day 1, as long as we avoid a no-lynch. So I plan to bandwagon on whomever can get close to enough votes. All your reads are likely to be better than mine, and that way I can hopefully prove my town-itude by being a deciding vote on a scum slaying.

he wants to lynch anyone
then he goes from thinking im innocent to not being against killing me
On March 19 2012 06:15 Tobon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2012 04:37 jcarlsoniv wrote:
That being said, Tobon planning to just bandwagon is scummy. We need more posts from him, and also need lurkers to stop lurking. I hate lurkers. I'm looking at you, snarfs, Toad, sandroba.


And what I said was that if it came down to it, that I'd rather bandwagon than allow a no-lynch, because I believe a no-lynch to be a big waste of time. You'll notice that I haven't actually voted for or tried to push the case against anyone with lynch votes yet. But yes, if just as the current example, Johnnywup has the most votes but no majority and we're near the end of the day, I'd add my vote to try to get a lynch rather than leaving a no-lynch.


he thinks im innocent but is willing to kill me just to kill someone. scummy as hell.


On March 19 2012 07:20 Tobon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2012 07:02 jcarlsoniv wrote:
I want to know your thoughts. Who are you finding scummy? What do you think of the current discussion? Even if you don't trust your reads, it doesn't mean that they won't give insight for other people.
Initially, I thought that VE was pressuring Johnny to gain info, and even though I find Johnny's response a null read (can't tell whether it's newbie town or newbie scum - I can identify with his reaction being a newb myself either way), that seemed good townie behavior.

then he goes back on his read on me being innocent


On March 19 2012 10:11 Tobon wrote:
I'll find scum, or die trying (haha). Meanwhile, since it's generally agreed that sandroba is almost assuredly town, and because my rereading of the general guide just now says indecision and lack of finger-pointing is generally seen as scummy, I will decisively point my finger the same direction he did.

##vote Jackal58

votes to lynch someone without any reason because he thinks not voting makes him seem scummy.



that's why i'm voting for tobon to be lynched.
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
March 19 2012 05:21 GMT
#352
What you said takes a lot off my opinion of you being scum. But there's still a little bit. I don't like you being willing to vote for anyone if they can get lynched.
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
March 19 2012 05:22 GMT
#353
EBWOP: i still don't like you and i still think youre scum
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
March 19 2012 05:26 GMT
#355
it's very hypocritical to vote for someone because they votelynched without a case when you votelynched without a case. or at least i think thats his reasoning.
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
March 19 2012 05:33 GMT
#359
really? because you said "Snarfs made a random Nemesis lynch vote but never made a case for it", with the "never made a case for it" being the main part of that sentence..
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
March 19 2012 05:34 GMT
#360
responding to tobon that is ^
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
March 19 2012 05:39 GMT
#362
On March 19 2012 14:35 Tobon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2012 14:30 slOosh wrote:
Tobon can you explain why a lynch on people who you think are null is better than a no-lynch?

Because, frankly, I expect other people who are more experienced to be better at this than I am. And because the mafia get their kill no matter what, so time is a wasting. And so, if I'm not actually _against_ a certain person being lynched, and six of my other townmates have been convinced, I'm going to trust in their collective judgement.


I don't understand this perspective. If you have an opinion, you fight for it. If you think someones a townie, then you say so. If you think someones scum, then you try lynch them. But you don't do either, you'll lynch who other people think is scum, even if you don't think so? You're disregarding yourself as a role in town, which makes me think you aren't town.
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
March 19 2012 05:46 GMT
#364
So you're saying you have no opinions? Bullshit. You still have time to push an opinion and you have had time. But from the very beginning you said you essentially won't have opinions and will just bandwagon, which is scummy as well. You're resisting pushing opinions and thoughts because you're afraid it'll reveal you to be scum more, or because you just want to take the easy route to kill town. Either way, you're scum.
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
March 19 2012 05:57 GMT
#367
you listed 3 lurkers not 3 people you feel are scummy..

And you haven't given me a reason to think you aren't scum.
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
March 19 2012 06:13 GMT
#370
if you were scum-hunting then why was your pick seemingly random, without a case? explain your pick of snarfs, beside him being inactive.
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
March 19 2012 06:14 GMT
#372
this is not the time for you to leave, eyes are on you and you're ditching. of course, it can be unavoidable to leave, but this just makes me suspect you more.
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
March 19 2012 19:03 GMT
#436
In light of all this, I'm not sure if tobon is the correct lynching candidate. I've got an hour here to post and I'll make my judgement then.

##unvote tobon
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
March 19 2012 19:06 GMT
#438
thanks for clearing that up, WBG.
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
March 19 2012 19:08 GMT
#440
Ok so, jcarl, why Dirkzor?

And everyone, why was Snarfs becoming a big target? Because hes acting different than another game? I don't see that as enough evidence.
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
March 19 2012 19:11 GMT
#442
I noticed, but doesn't this basically confirm his as town?
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