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On March 20 2012 04:50 xsksc wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2012 04:48 Dirkzor wrote:
I'm inclined to believe that scum is not where I think they are day 1. Which is why I'm pushing xsksc. Tobon and Johnny are the easy outs which never produce scum anyway.
Probulous is also a good lynch candidate for a day 1 lynch. But lynch is coming up fast and we need to consolidate soon.
Unless I'm misinterprating that, you're pushing to lynch me because I'm not one of the places you would have found scum? I'd love to defend myself here, but you're giving me nothing.
What I'm saying is that the one everyone find scummy day1 always ends up being town who made some stupid mistake during the day and everyone can agree that its stupid and therefor lynches that person. Tobon and Johnny fits that.
I'm looking at the 2nd row of suspects.
Either way, I'm skimming trough your filter (again) and I might be just the way you write your suspicions. You never really put words to why exactly you find him scummy - or not in a case-way, if that makes sense. Just that you disagreed and then you voted him.
Reading Sloosh's filter now.
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Hokay..
I'm down with lynching any of the following due to the power of elemination:
Sloosh
xsksc
Jackal
Probulous
TIPD
Nemesis
(in no particular order)
Are there 3 or 4 scum this game? Or don't we know? We already have a bunch of "confirmed" townies. These combined with my town reads give me this list.
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Also that list is great for dt checks, vigs, and roleblockers (the townie ones).
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##Unvote
##Vote Jackal58
Consolidate.
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On March 20 2012 05:41 Jackal58 wrote:
Great. More Jub Jubs.
I'm at work ya maroons.
You called me out for lurking while I was at work. Post more when not working?
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See. 2nd row hunting ftw!
Night!
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Last scum:
Probulous
Nemesis
Sloosh
Or 2 therein if only 3 scum.
GG
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eh.. edit:
or 2 therein if only 2 scum left.
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On March 21 2012 00:02 slOosh wrote:
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The reason I didn't want to sheep Sandroba was because the bandwagon was forming really fast and I was scared that he could have been mafia pulling off an easy mislynch with no repercussions. I was willing to sheep on Snarfs because I could see how he could be mafia and that wasn't a 10 minute before deadline bandwagon, which allowed for additional information input and discussion and a possible change in vote. I didn't have that luxury with Jackal and so I decided no lynch was better than a null read lynch.
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You were scared that Sandroba was mafia pushing for a mislynch? Sandrobe is at best confirmed town (and was) at worst easy to find scum later on due to his mason claim. So thats bull.
On March 20 2012 06:51 slOosh wrote:
Catching up and going through Jackal's filter, I don't see anything telling of scum.
Additionally, its been pointed out, but this bandwagon is forming really fast and people are just jumping on.
From what I understand from my experience w/ TL Mafia, jackal doesn't bother putting in effort D1 since he always dies / his early reads are poor (or at least that is what people say about him). Does it absolve him of lurking? Well, combined with St. Patrick Day, power outage and work I'm really leaning null.
And a no-lynch is better than a lynch on (someone who I think is) a null read, especially since this is a true bandwagon where the only true read is Sandroba's and mostly everyone is sheeping. Not gonna lynch someone who I don't think is scum, and can't even apply the faulty "we get information out of it" because we won't.
##Unvote Snarfs
##Vote no-lynch
About this post. I disagree that it makes sloosh look scummier if jackal flipped town than if Jackal flipped scum.
This post makes perfect sense if Sloosh knew Jackal allignment. We only had 7 votes on Jackal and this was 10 min before lynch. He only needed to convince 1 person to vote differently to get jackal off the hook.
He spends most of this post explaining reasons why it is most likely that Jackal isn't scum. Then ends with:
And a no-lynch is better than a lynch on (someone who I think is) a null read, especially since this is a true bandwagon where the only true read is Sandroba's and mostly everyone is sheeping. Not gonna lynch someone who I don't think is scum, and can't even apply the faulty "we get information out of it" because we won't.
Which is gently telling people to take votes of because the lynch is bad without saying it outright.
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Sloosh: Im saying I think you are scum.
About Probulous: I like his filter. I liked his pushing and case on VE and I like his case on you. Of the three on my list I find him the least likely to be scum. His case on Sloosh might come to push a mis-lynch if sloosh is town. Most people seemed willing to lynch sloosh even before probulous case, so probulous made a case to get a townie lynched. That will clear up when/if sloosh flips
Nemesis have been tunnelling hard on VE. Don't really know what to make of it. Both Nemesis and Probulous made cases on VE within a 20 min timeframe. Combined with this post
On March 20 2012 06:44 Nemesis wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2012 05:06 sandroba wrote:
Alright I read through everyone's filter quite some times and I think we should indeed lynch Jackal. If anyone opposes please tell me why.
He said previously he didn't have any opinion on snarfs when talking to VE, but he took 3 min to filter him this game, look at the filter I posted from the previous game, compare, think about it and come to the conclusion he is scum. I don't believe that is possible.
##Unvote
##Vote Jackal58 I don't quite buy the case against him, and when he was talking to VE, he said that snarfs was "non-existant." I'm guessing he meant that snarfs was lurking. I'd still prefer a VE lynch right now. The meat of his lynch is that he is lurking, which he seems to do a lot day 1 in other games too.
just before sloosh made his vote for no-lynch. It just seem to fit.
VE: Option 2? Maybe you wasn't asking me? =)
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Oh and to add about probulous: He have made excuses for being away. Mostly people who are scared to get caught lurking excuse themself being away from thread. I hate when people use excuses that are mostly life stuff (birthdays and work)
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A DT claim does not a townie make.
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On March 21 2012 07:13 VisceraEyes wrote:
Also I was roleblocked. Apparently having massive thread-presence is some kind of blue-tell. lmao
Got to go now, but bringing this back to light!
2 roleblocks now...
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On March 21 2012 16:01 xsksc wrote:
Two roleblockers AND a framer? Doesn't sound likely..
two roleblockers and a framer on the scum team does seem unlikely.
It could be 1 town roleblocker and 1 scum, but I still find this unlikely.
Sloosh wants us to look into the people bandwagoning Jackal (and now himself). This doesn't really make sense since Jackal was scum and we only just got him lynched. If we had 10 people on jackal I could agree that some might be scum but with only 7 votes the scenerio just fits better that scum voted elsewhere.
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slOosh. Hunt scum. Find someone more scummy then you and explain clearly why. But right now it looks grim for you.
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Oh my. Why did slOosh keep quite during the probulous interrogation and now when the focus is back on himself he starts posting more?
I'm also quite confused about where to vote. I think probulous is making sense in what he is saying. I see the difference between VE's town read on Jackal and TIPD's non-read on jackal. Its NOT the same as xsksc and VE is tryign to make it appear.
I still think at least 1 scum is on the "non jackal vote" list, but I'm more and more inclined to believed we had scum voting jackal. Be that TIPD or another I don't know. I just always second guess.
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I'm in a rush and have only skimmed the thread. I feel that sloosh is more scummy looking back. His defence have been decent with a tone of townie, but the double roleblock caught my attention. I'm more down with a sloosh lynch then Prob.
##Vote slOosh
I won't be back before lynch so this will be it. If you decide to lynch Probulous I see no problem.
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How did I become a suspect? O_o
I'm sorry I wasn't here for the lynch but I put my vote where I thought it would find scum. Many of you were in doubt aswell. Anyway..
Nemesis is someone who has to die before lylo. Blue roles do your job!
Btw this doesn't confirm slOosh in any way really. If both probulous and slOosh are scum it would make perfect sense to just bus eachother. Whoever gets lynched the other gets a lot of towncred. slOosh was fast to point to himself as confirmed town (or 99%). Just saying.
A thing talking against this theory is that they might have tried to push the lynch towards nemesis more?
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On March 23 2012 07:56 johnnywup wrote:Show nested quote +On March 23 2012 07:52 Dirkzor wrote:Nemesis is someone who has to die before lylo. Blue roles do your job! what? we're no where NEAR lylo...quite the opposite really..
I know. But my statement is still valid. Even is Nemesis is town how can you justify lynching anyone else then him giving how day 1 + 2 went down?
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