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On March 18 2012 00:37 Jayjay54 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 18 2012 00:33 Drazerk wrote:On March 18 2012 00:30 Jayjay54 wrote:
I think Draz is bullshitting. The "I need 5 items" condition makes no sense as balrog. It's completely random.
Draz refers to this old Balrog fake claim and adds another random condition to it.
So they took an old fake role as a gag, implemented it here and were like "yea he needs more stuff".
You also claim to have restrictions on your KP item wise. Also completely nonsense for flavour (balrog doesn't need shit to kill).
I still think he might be sleeper cell or even scum (who didn't intend to claim until he knew he hit third).
Overall, draz, you are a perfect day 1 lynch. At worst (in case you weren't bullshitting), we lose a third party who wants to kill a townie and looks for items, which is still OK from town perspective. At best, me nail a lanch at scum or sleeper.
Sounds like a plan to me.
##vote Drazerk Except for the fact I can't kill for a while and you will be controlling the kill while I wait for scum to kill gandalf for me? I am not voting you, because of that. I am voting you, because I don't buy your role. Balrog who is resembling an old fake claim, but is now suddenly obsessed with items in addition. yea right.
I just want to get back to middle earth through the rift using items 
Also the whole point of the game is that it is a collection of roles from multiple game and with Igrok as a co host it makes perfect sense for it to be in the game and due to the epic relationship me and balrog had in LOTR it makes sense for me to have received it as payback.
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On March 18 2012 00:38 Jayjay54 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 18 2012 00:34 Velinath wrote:On March 18 2012 00:30 Hassybaby wrote:
Veli, according to Draz, he's got limitations on his dayvig involving items. So I don't know how well we'll be able to control it.
I think it would be a good idea to KILL him at some point, lynch or otherwise, so we can see what everything he says is true. But right now, I'd like to focus on other aspects like the election. We still have over 24 hours, and a lot of people have yet to say anything, so I think waiting will be better Well, if he's limited by items then we don't need to kill him. It'll be easy enough to tell if he's lying if someone gets consumed by shadow and flame again without anyone having given him an item. yea, that'll help. Because he can't at no point say "Hey I received an item". That's totally a prove.
Only ways you can get an item is the following
Kill someone
Lynch someone
Get given it
Naturally I would only get an item through lynching in which case I would own up to it because you already know my kill flavour T_T
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On March 18 2012 00:49 Jayjay54 wrote:
You want to use items to get back? Sorry. Just no.
Also, that was sarcasm.
Draz can at any point claim he got given an item. Now what? No one claims to have given an item.
draz: can you only kill when you get an item?
I am going to laugh at you when I flip
I am done arguing with you and defending myself we concentrate on what is important now which is the election and a real lynch we are not discussing myself any more.
And I can not discuss just know my kill and win con are both related to items
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On March 18 2012 00:52 Grackaroni wrote:
Hey Drazerk, why did you want to make town elect velinath, because you believed he was 3rd party. When you claimed that your win condition before was just to survive and win with town?
over powered blues with additional powers why wouldn't you want that?
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On March 18 2012 01:23 Jayjay54 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 18 2012 01:13 ghost_403 wrote:
Drazerk never had to claim. Clearly, he didn't think that he was a threat to the town, at least for the time being. Focusing on lynching him out of the game right now is counterproductive. Today, we need to be more concerned about electing a Wheatly and finding a good lynch, rather than focus on some neutered third party.
##elect velinath because he seems to understand this. he have claimed just because of that. if you believe him, then his wincon has changed. so he might have thought he was no threat for town THEN. If we find a better lynch, I am fine with moving on. However, this lynch is at worst a third party lynch. We won't lose a townie. Before we randomly lynch a player, lynching drazerk is by far the better option. And that doesn't even take into account that there's a fair chance he's lying. I still think we should give Wheatley to one of the newer players (mav, david or whatever), since they might not be as good in abusing OP powers, yet (no offense, bros! seriously!). That is, if they're willing to be transparent and to let town guide their actions. If they get insane, it will be probably easier for town to recognize it, while vet-players will annihilate town.
Please learn to read. I claimed after my win con changed.
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On March 18 2012 01:31 Maverick32x wrote:Show nested quote +On March 18 2012 01:25 Drazerk wrote:On March 18 2012 01:23 Jayjay54 wrote:On March 18 2012 01:13 ghost_403 wrote:
Drazerk never had to claim. Clearly, he didn't think that he was a threat to the town, at least for the time being. Focusing on lynching him out of the game right now is counterproductive. Today, we need to be more concerned about electing a Wheatly and finding a good lynch, rather than focus on some neutered third party.
##elect velinath because he seems to understand this. he have claimed just because of that. if you believe him, then his wincon has changed. so he might have thought he was no threat for town THEN. If we find a better lynch, I am fine with moving on. However, this lynch is at worst a third party lynch. We won't lose a townie. Before we randomly lynch a player, lynching drazerk is by far the better option. And that doesn't even take into account that there's a fair chance he's lying. I still think we should give Wheatley to one of the newer players (mav, david or whatever), since they might not be as good in abusing OP powers, yet (no offense, bros! seriously!). That is, if they're willing to be transparent and to let town guide their actions. If they get insane, it will be probably easier for town to recognize it, while vet-players will annihilate town. Please learn to read. I claimed after my win con changed. Why did your win con change?
Inside joke my role has been changed in every game I have played on TL Mafia
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On March 18 2012 01:39 Grackaroni wrote:
Drazerk you're clearly holding something back from us.
Original win con : survive until the end with town.
New win con : Kill Gandolf, get 5 items.
Old win con: Velinath should be Wheatly because you think he has a pro-town role similar to yours.
New win con : Velinath is a horrible candidate and we must not let him get elected.
Either you were trying to do something scummy earlier by electing a 3rd party (defended by the fact that 3rd party is basically overpowered blues) or you turned anti-town and didn't want somebody who you thought had a pro-town role to win the election.
Nothing in your wincon should have made that change in your view of Velinath so you are either holding something back from us or you are just bullshitting completely.
I had two choices upon my win con change -
1) Keep around and just try and get lucky
2) Claim and ally with town and hope scum or someone else does it for me
What do you think someone else who has a similar role would do?
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sigh...
I have the anger core two random people who are voting for me when I am lynched will die
I will not be passing it to someone so you can lynch me so if you are going to kill me do it via a bullet.
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Oh and I got it when I killed VE so say thanks to drazerk
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On March 18 2012 03:31 Foolishness wrote:
On Wiggles you must keep your eye
So hard to tell when he is to lie
He's a powerful player
Do not make him mayor
It's hard to read him, but give it a try...
You are clearly not reading the game 
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On March 18 2012 03:48 Jayjay54 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 18 2012 03:28 Drazerk wrote:
sigh...
I have the anger core two random people who are voting for me when I am lynched will die
I will not be passing it to someone so you can lynch me so if you are going to kill me do it via a bullet. now it's just getting sad. You already had a DT item, now you have a second one which happens to kill people lynching you? really? try to be more creative.
Tell that to your hosts if your not happy with the game
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On March 18 2012 03:17 Kenpachi wrote:
kk. im going to hand you my item Drazerk, in return, you must vote GLaDOS everyday you are alive (in case we dont get majority day 1).
Still waiting on this item...
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##Vote: GLaDOS
Well I think I can now say that because of what item he gave me kenpachi is 100% town and killing glados is the best action the town can do today.
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On March 18 2012 07:41 Velinath wrote:Show nested quote +On March 18 2012 07:31 Drazerk wrote:
##Vote: GLaDOS
Well I think I can now say that because of what item he gave me kenpachi is 100% town and killing glados is the best action the town can do today. Man, your credibility is already shot. Give us something more than this to explain why this is a good idea.
It was the portal gun -
He is chell
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On March 18 2012 07:58 gonzaw wrote:Show nested quote +On March 18 2012 07:31 Drazerk wrote:
##Vote: GLaDOS
Well I think I can now say that because of what item he gave me kenpachi is 100% town and killing glados is the best action the town can do today. Also, why do you even care about town anymore? You haven't answered any of our questions nor tried to lend your powers to us, so clearly you don't care. Do you even know you are about to get lynched? Do you know that if you are indeed 3rd party you will LOSE? Why don't you even acknowledge that, and more importantly STOP it altogether? You are giving me more and more reasons for thinking you are actually scum.
You have all the information I have bar the information about my kill shot WHICH I CAN NOT GIVE OUT
I don't care about being lynched if you idiots lynch me hopefully I take out gandalf with me and get a 50/50 on the win con
You people really need to learn that the more scummy I appear the more likely I am town and visa versa
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For the record the portal gun just lets you see what items someone has but you can't use any abilities if you choose to use it
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On March 18 2012 08:13 Jayjay54 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 18 2012 08:08 Drazerk wrote:On March 18 2012 07:58 gonzaw wrote:On March 18 2012 07:31 Drazerk wrote:
##Vote: GLaDOS
Well I think I can now say that because of what item he gave me kenpachi is 100% town and killing glados is the best action the town can do today. Also, why do you even care about town anymore? You haven't answered any of our questions nor tried to lend your powers to us, so clearly you don't care. Do you even know you are about to get lynched? Do you know that if you are indeed 3rd party you will LOSE? Why don't you even acknowledge that, and more importantly STOP it altogether? You are giving me more and more reasons for thinking you are actually scum. You have all the information I have bar the information about my kill shot WHICH I CAN NOT GIVE OUT I don't care about being lynched if you idiots lynch me hopefully I take out gandalf with me and get a 50/50 on the win con You people really need to learn that the more scummy I appear the more likely I am town and visa versa are you actually claiming to be town?
god no you jub jubs
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On March 18 2012 08:37 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On March 18 2012 08:10 Drazerk wrote:
For the record the portal gun just lets you see what items someone has but you can't use any abilities if you choose to use it Speaking of which why did Kenpachi giving you that item convince you that we should kill GlaDOS?
If you can't trust Chell you can't trust anyone in this game
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On March 18 2012 08:45 blubbdavid wrote:
Are people notified who gave them an item?
I was not
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