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On March 29 2012 23:20 Dirk Hardpec wrote:
I am on fire again, and I got some core thing now.
I still think we should be lynching nisani201. role != alignment.
This makes little sense- especially considering we have a list that we can be fairly confident with using...
Also how would you have gotten a core?
My Vote is going to Dirk currently- but I'd be willing to vote Blubb to prevent a no lynch situation...
@Phagga-
I don't think the 5th party, House Chezinu shows up after our death if thats what you're saying?
Overall I think we are in pretty decent shape... the kills resulting from the burns could of been a lot of scum hopefully...
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Right now I'm thinking that Blubb and Dirk are the sleeper or scum left in that list...
My reasoning is that I still think that Kenpachi is 3rd party... HOWEVER, he could still turn green, and be some kind of alternate party....
As for who's the scum out of those two, its hard to say...I honestly think we need to be voting out Dirk.. but in order to avoid a no lynch (and I'll be in class till 9pm cst), I'm going to vote for Blubb.
It doesn't matter really, since I think we will be able to get the other one without any problem~
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On March 31 2012 06:20 Jayjay54 wrote:
blubb, your case vs ken is weak. from all list candidates kenpachi looks the best, because, well, he's kenpachi.
dirk claims to be burning and is the next target nonetheless.
You did basically nothing to change this. That's why you die.
mav, ken can't be third because the colour radiator didn't return third.
I'm on a break .. but isn't it possible that he is town but has a separate role? Kind of like one of the beings?
Doesn't matter though as long as he's pro town..
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I guess since I'm getting picked up as a potential scum by JJ- I may as well reveal a bit...
As you guys know, I'm 5th party Chezinu, which Midnight and Gonzaw were both a part of.. who flipped pro-town... We had our QT which is pretty much useless now, but I was given the sentry gun- which I shot at scum with- however it doubled up and wasn't used (confirmed by Midnight)
I also had the Factual core, which I traded to mementoss- who can confirm that as well...
I also am a lazy cop.. who's job is pretty much meaningless, but I can tell the alignment of anyone we've lynched.. so far they have all lined up accurately, so I haven't had much use of it so far.... but if we do lynch anyone and their alignment doesn't add up (I image due to some kind of block), I would be able to reveal that information for you guys...
As for who I think could be scum!!!
The pickings are getting slim...
JayJay- Probably not scum, has been pretty active and has been seeking out the right people on a consistent basis.
Kenpachi- 100% town based off the color radiator.
Mementoss- probably town since he is the computer terminal person.. that seems like a difficult role to make up- and his actions correlate well with what the results that we have seen.
Nisani- Targeted by Dirk, who is confirmed scum, HOWEVER, that most recent exchange where he felt the need to defend himself awfully quickly could be an indicator of some sort of guilt... maybe sleeper cell?
Foolishness- Sent to android hell and back... Seems to be a town.. definitely not scum.. but the third party possibility makes this tough...
Phagga- No good read on this guy.. makes list.. bandwagons.... not a whole lot of 'pro-town' going on there...
If it were up to me to vote right this second.. I'd go with Phagga.
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Edit: *wasn't used by consumed*
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##vote: GLaDOS
May as well see what this does..
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I'm in class till 4est...
But mementoss... I gave you the factual core... What does it do?
I disagree with the mementoss Lynch... I think we should focus on either nisani or phagga... I'll have a chance to flip through filters when I get home.. but I feel like the Lynch on mementoss is making a decision based off a lot of stretches of logic... That post you made JJ with the quote from mementoss highlights a lot of scum.. sure he wants the vote on nisani
.. but he seems to be on board with his reads...
Also super disappointed with kenpachi... Confirmed town sacs himself....;;
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Ok, I'm not entirely sure if trying to defend myself is of much use. I get the strong feeling that JJ already has his heart set on me, so I get that this is an uphill battle.. however, I'm encouraging everyone left to think for themselves and not to simply bandwagon your way to a lose... I am not third party, and I am not scum....
That being said.. I have an actual question- how do we know any scum is left? Couldn't there just be 1 sleeper cell remaining?
This vote is difficult because of the potential for Sleeper Cell to be motivated to kill scum as much as allow town to kill themselves.... to be honest, and I know this is the you blame me, I blame you sort of thing.. but flipping through filters, almost everyone that is left has some sort of 'unique' job... the only person who hasn't discussed this yet is JJ and Phagga...
And I know, before the pitchforks start coming at me... doesn't anyone think that is a bit suspicious?
I'm a cop, Nisani is an inventor, Mementoss is a computer (GI joe reference), Foolishness talks in rhymes....
For a game with relatively intricate style.. those players have not brought up their roles at all... Obviously if they are medic or DT that makes sense and I understand.. however- I think it is still something to consider...
I'm going to stick to a Phagga vote... I know he is one of the few people who didn't go after me in this thread, so I'm sure I'm slitting my own throat- but I'm going to go for it.
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On April 02 2012 07:27 phagga wrote:
Uh, JJ, the Deadline is in 24 hours...
also: I don't want to calculate too much, but: If we are at 3-2-1, and we kill mafia, that makes 3-1-1. Then there are 2 nightkills, which leave us at 1-1-1, which is nigh unwinnable. However, if we go from 3-2-1 to 3-2-0 and then 2-2-, we can win with an item of Nisani. HOWEVER, that assumes that there is still a cell member left to kill. This is why I stick to Foolishness.
Maverick: You're right, it is possible that there is only one sleeper cell or one mafia left, as we do no know the flips of night one nor the size of the mafia group. What JJ and I are picturing here are the worst case scenarios.
So you want to know my role?
If you think it will make you a scum target- then no... but I'm just pointing out a trend..
@JJ- Sorry, didn't see/remember the vig thing...
As for the JJ switch to Mementoss- though I appreciate being off your hit list... I want to give it a little more background...
In retrospect- I suppose it is possible that a computer terminal could be a negative.. per Portal 2 theme... I don't want to bandwagon and jump on the Mementoss train.. This is speculation however, and I realize it is far from helpful...
I'm heading to bed and will see what I can dig up in the AM.. I also thought the lynch was tonight as well, so I guess its good I have more time to check things out...
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@Foolishness
Yes, I'm the last one of the Chezinu party.
As for who you shot.. can you tell us who it was?
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I appreciate your vote of confidence, thank you foolishness.
I don't think he would lit on fire Mementoss since he didn't visit.. he shot...
So let me get this straight though.. the gun only shoots if they are the same alignment.... so that would mean that Nisani is NOT scum... since the shots would of gone through if he shot Dirk and Nisani?
That of course doesn't rule out sleeper cell..
What is making everyone think Mementoss as our vote? I'm not really seeing it...is it the relatively strong role yet he is still alive?
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I didn't claim VT.. I claimed Cop.. but you're in luck because its a Day action, so I'm good with the portal gun.. sinceI do have it, is there anyone you want me to check with it?
As for your Cursed Crown item, isn't that just putting a death counter on someone? I guess I'm not seeing the usefulness of it....
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Well I didn't want to vote for myself.. and I'm not entirely convinced that Mementoss is Scum/3rd party... In fact, I'm really continuing to lead towards Nisani.... I was suspcious of him awhile back before he claimed inventor... I actually tried to shoot him with a sentry gun that Midnight bought and traded to me from the black market... but only PM'ed 1 of the mods instead of all 3 and it didn't go through... Then he claimed inventor, and I felt like I shouldn't shoot him.... so I guess its kinda worked out.. but his inventions are highly suspect...
As for the Portal gun, so since I don't have a night action its useless? Was kind of hoping it would become my night action ;;
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So kind Foolishness.... Well there you have it.. Mementoss and Nisani...
Now I feel like an idiot for not changing my vote...But you've got my vote for Mementoss on the next cycle ;;
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Make a day vig item. And give it to JJ.
Thats my vote. I say we just go all-in on this...
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@JJ- you can 100% count on me. If you're scum, congrats.. if you're not... <3
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ok so what does THIS mean?
I'm seeing this in a couple ways-
Since I have the Portal 2 gun- the scum was thinking that by NOT killing, this would make me look guilty?
There is only Sleeper left.- With no KP?
Something else???
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I'm on my phone... But I find that hard to believe mementoss..
Foolishness clearly learned something from his sacrifice.. OR was able to protect everyone in some way...
If either of those are true.. then you're scum for sure.
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So if it didn't protect everyone, then what did it do? Why would he take himself out of the game unless he had something legitament to go off of...
@Phagga- its possible that when he sacrafices himself, he gets one last post before he dies?
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This game does seem like it has been going on forever....
Either way, I'm sticking to my vote.. we will see what happens...
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