Aperture Mafia - Page 131

On October 31 2020 03:01 iamperfection wrote:

i think yamato was clearly town last night and you didnt seem to see it for whatever reason.

On October 31 2020 03:47 Alakaslam wrote:
Ok I just read the other thread.

So Iamp is cleared and ShoCkeyy too imo. That helps me over here.

I am basically certain it is Koshi or TT then.

On October 31 2020 03:51 Alakaslam wrote:
I am wondering why the threads are uneven in size. I think that is to accommodate scum not out numbering town no matter what.

But consider.
4-3

This could be a 100% scum role that makes for 2 ML early, which htf balanced, or there is 1 scum here 2 scum there.

Coupled with hiding the votes, this seems like Acro scum

On October 31 2020 04:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Anyways for this thread and for this:

I am not sold on that. I have problems with him clearly thinking people are mafia (Acro for example -- me maybe??) and not saying it out loud. I generally don't get why people write read posts without clear conclusions. If i look at his original read on Acro it ends up yamato being able to take both routes afterwards, calling him mafia or not, while it "making sense". Same with his read on me. I understand people can be indecisive about someone's alignment but if that's so then you try to figure it out or at least not make posts about you being indecisive, because what does anyone gain from that (except for you gain activity credit, which is actually beneficial for mafia -- saying things that "look good" without really saying anything)??

Truth to be told i havent played with yamato in a while but i dont think he has historically been that "possibly vary" of his reads.

I also don't understand why me and him questioning shockeyy for the same things should somehow make my reconsider my read on him? I mean, i dont even think that had a lot relevance regarding shockeyys alignment in comparison to someone else. I could easily do that even if i was mafia with shockeyy because i dont really see how it would really "harm" our play. Same goes to him + shockeyy. I also don't really get that he seems to be implying (not sure because once again he doesnt say it out loud) that it is scummy from me. But shouldnt the questioning in itself be townie in his opinion (from me)? Because he just kind of said i should consider him more townie for "mindmelding". Anyways, i understand his take on this one and i am pleased with his answer, i just wrote this for my pov getiing clearer to ppl.

The thing i dont mostly get is his response to me accusing him of possibly buddying Hapa. His read on Hapa started with him believing Hapa is a friendly 3p helping town. Hell he even asked for protection on Hapa. After i mulled over the idea of him being mafia trying to buddy Hapa he responded with; why would he buddy with a competing alignment. Now i find this very problematic.

1) If yamato is lying about his original read on Hapa that obviously makes him mafia

2) So let's assume that yamato thinks Hapa is town friendly 3p enough to grant him protection (that especially i think is a big thing and i think it implies yamato's read is very very strong EVEN IF Hapa has CLAIMED to be NOT town). Now the thing that i find very contradicting is that yamato doesn't get why someone would think a mafia guy is buddying up to someone who is a damn good scumhunter when he scumhunts, good at convincing people to lynch who he wants, and playing for town?????? No, instead he says "competing alignment", which in my opinion means something not town. But he shouldn't think that, he thinks Hapa is playing for the town (not being some "competing alignment" whatever that means). He said he wouldnt call for protection but instead just kill Hapa. I dont understand that because there is also you, iamp, that needs to be killed if youre town, and i think yamato would want to kill me too, if not for my existing or non-existing skills in playing mafia, just because he finds me annoying (unless it was fake rage which also makes him mafia).

I find the above very contradicting to be honest. You cannot kill all the people you want at once. It's true that even if yamato is mafia, he possibly isn't even buddying up to Hapa. My problem is that he doesn't recognize that someone could think that and tries to explain it in some weird way that at least to me doesn't make much sense.

Other than the Hapa thing i don't really even care about now, because i understand even if i wanted to, i am not gonna get him lynched this phase. I would like to hear his take on that still. Because while yes, i agree that his posting DID look townier than at the start of the game, i am not completely sold on him being town.

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I also want to hear why Koshi thinks TT is town. I dont think Koshi is mafia, i would easily add him to no-lynch list.

I want to know what TT did in the database.

I want Slam to talk more and be more clear with his responses, for now i dont really understand what he is trying to say basically with any of his posts.

On October 31 2020 04:19 iamperfection wrote:

i think your misconstruing what yamato said he thinks hapa is playing generally pro town was what he said.

On October 31 2020 04:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:

He asked protection on Hapa in #505. He even said so later on when he asked "why would i ask protection for a competing alingment if i was mafia" or something like that.

I think this is a very strong town read, no? Or like 100% implication that Hapa is playing for town. Why else would you ask people to protect a third party?