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deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
March 08 2012 12:18 GMT
#64
/in
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
March 09 2012 17:58 GMT
#110
On March 10 2012 02:52 rgTheSchworz wrote:
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Mafia powers:

Cover: Cost .5KP makes a player appear as townie 1 night cycle.
Frame: Cost .5KP makes a player appear as mafia for 1 night cycle.
Rolecheck: Cost .5KP returns the role and alignment of the target player.
Roleblock: Cost .5KP blocks a player from using his power during that night. Player is notified of being role blocked.
Role Reverser: Cost 1.0KP Reverses the power of a role. If you are a blue role or mafia, PM me for details.
Hide Flip: Cost 2.0KP hides the flip of a target player.


So scum have 3 special powers each night, without any restrictions.These powers do not die with the PR, such as the framer or Rb er.
Woot?
Is this even balanced?


It costs KP to use the powers.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
March 11 2012 17:36 GMT
#185
On March 12 2012 02:01 layabout wrote:
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On March 12 2012 01:37 Jitsu wrote:
On March 12 2012 01:29 layabout wrote:
+ Show Spoiler [ tedious LaL crap] +
On March 12 2012 01:20 Jitsu wrote:
What do you think it means?

Accountable means subject to the obligation to report, explain, or justify something; responsible; answerable.

If a player lies, and can't do the above, we kill him.
If he can justify it, and it's a logical and clearly visible motive, we don't.

Why do you think a player who lies shouldn't be lynched? Is it you're opinion that lying isn't Anti-Town?


Town lie all the time.
Town make illogical moves all the time.
Town play anti-town all the time.

But if we think they are town we do not lynch them.



So, a player that is, according to you:
1. lying
2. playing illogically
3. playing anti-town

...has the potential to not be lynched because we might think they are town?

No. That person will be getting my vote, and I will be doing what I can to push for their lynch, especially if those three things come up. You can do whatever you want with your vote, I guess.

The steps to overcoming the belief that town players will do what is best for town
1. Click on this link
2. Scroll down
3. When you reach the playerlist click on Toadesstern and rgtheschworz
4. Read through both fliters, paying particular attention to the numerous lies both of them make
5. Discover that townies lie, play anti-town and play illlogically
6. Apologise to layabout

Jitsu, being able to guess whether or not a player is town or scum is quite difficult even if players are all acting sensibly. You have to learn to deal with the additional complexity introduced by players playing poorly, illogically or even against their own win condition.


Just because someone is town doesn't mean its not a good idea to lynch them sometimes. If townies are shitting up the thread, playing illogically and anti-town and in general causing an atmosphere that only serves to help mafia, then getting rid of them helps town in the long run.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
March 12 2012 01:34 GMT
#249
On March 11 2012 23:44 layabout wrote:
1. Publicly announcing who you are in PM contact with:
There are situations in which it may be advantageous to announce that you have been PM-ing a player. However, announcing who you are in contact with by default shares information that is of little use to town but that scum would benefit from knowing. For example, if an all-town PM circle was established and announced immediately scum would know that all the players were town and they could then react to this.

2. I like butter

3. Obligatory MS-Paint:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


On March 12 2012 04:06 layabout wrote:
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On March 12 2012 04:01 Mattchew wrote:
so can someone explain to me why keeping your talking buddies private is helpful to town?

What i want to know is who people were talking to outside of thread before they die. It seems very helpful to scum to not reveal who they are PM'ing and kill them off if they are suspicious of them and we don't want to hold them accountable for being in talks with them?


hmmm... it is pretty obvious and has been stated in part already.

wait a minute
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On November 30 2011 07:47 Mattchew wrote:
Layabout, I am not sure if you are town or scum, either way you are retarded and I hope to god that someone off's you quickly and you ragequit the mafia forum and I never have to read a post by you again.



vote mattchew

unless somebody claims scum i am killing this guy


MS Paint trolling post coupled with dragging a vendetta from a previous game in. I really don't like the way you are playing right now.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
March 13 2012 02:57 GMT
#462
Sorry I haven't been around, unexpected stuff happened today and I'm exhausted. I'm going to

##Vote Caller

because he claimed so support LAL, while coming up with bullshit reason to lynch Dr. H. He then turned around and claimed it was a ploy.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
March 14 2012 00:49 GMT
#656
Sorry I haven't been around the last couple of days, real life hit unexpectedly. I'm playing catch up now though.

Jackal hasn't called me out on my massive amount of lurking. This alone to me indicates that he's probably scum. In any game where he's town he's the first person to call me out on absolutely anything.

Three people 'independantly' coming up with a case against him is shady as fuck, I guarantee at least two of Caller, prpl and Curu are PMing each other.

There was a handful of people pushing LAL at the start of the game, yet none of them have suggested lynching Caller after his Dr. H ploy. Why? If you follow LAL to the letter of the law, you should be pushing for Caller's lynch.

I've liked what I've seen from VE so far this game. Scum should definitely be scared of him. However don't assume he's town just because he's come off of a big win in Storm.

Where is Bill Murray? He almost has less posts than me and I've been around for about five minutes total.

More stuff coming up as I read through the thread.

deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
March 14 2012 00:55 GMT
#657
If Jackal's roleclaim is legit, shooting is the worst thing he could do right now. Anyone encouraging him to do so is an idiot or scum. Offering a 1-1 trade is also retarded.

On March 14 2012 07:33 Jackal58 wrote:
Oh and if it goes that way and we don't both die Prpz I have no problem being lynched. A 1 for 1 trade is worth it. Always.


On March 14 2012 07:14 prplhz wrote:
Jackal58 you fucking shoot tonight if you're actually town.


These get facepalm posts of the day for me.

Thankfully Dr. H is talking sense:
On March 14 2012 07:22 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
The best thing for Jackal to do is not shoot at all
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
March 14 2012 13:10 GMT
#731
On March 14 2012 21:57 Palmar wrote:
Cleaning out trash, thanks Caller.

I'll just confirm right now that I asked him to kill node. The reason is well...

Node's last game as scum: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=269956&user=53526
This game: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=316574&user=53526

He has not attempted to play the game at all, it's really annoying to play with people who don't even try (rgTS I hate you), and of the shitty lurkers inhabiting this game Node seems to me like he has the highest chance of flipping scum. In addition I feel much safer with me controlling Caller's bullet and using it to clean out trash, than having him decide his own targets. Me and VE discussed Caller's alignment at length, and while we disagreed, I'm still not completely comfortable with letting caller do whatever he wants.

Looking forward to this flip. If we hit scum we are in such a good position.


Agreed, if Node flips scum we are in a very good position. However we would be in a better one if a medic was on VE last night. I mean who else was mafia going to kill...
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
March 14 2012 13:11 GMT
#732
Oh and Mattchew is probably scum.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
March 14 2012 13:14 GMT
#734
On March 14 2012 22:12 Palmar wrote:
Why would mafia not shoot anyone but VE tonight?


VE was one of the most townie people in the thread and had just come out of a game where he completely destroyed scum. If he was town he was almost guaranteed to be top of the mafia kill list.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
March 14 2012 13:19 GMT
#739
On March 14 2012 22:15 Palmar wrote:
He has also just come off a game where he actively tried to lose the game for town as town (see resistance). I agree that he's a good target anyway though.

So do you think Caller is town? In addition, I'm thinking of killing you Deconduo, what do you have to say about that?


If you are thinking of killing me because you think I'm scum then you're wrong. If its because I've been inactive then fair enough. I would be pushing for my lynch too. I'm stepping up my game though.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
March 14 2012 13:27 GMT
#742
On March 14 2012 22:23 Palmar wrote:
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On March 14 2012 22:19 deconduo wrote:
On March 14 2012 22:15 Palmar wrote:
He has also just come off a game where he actively tried to lose the game for town as town (see resistance). I agree that he's a good target anyway though.

So do you think Caller is town? In addition, I'm thinking of killing you Deconduo, what do you have to say about that?


If you are thinking of killing me because you think I'm scum then you're wrong. If its because I've been inactive then fair enough. I would be pushing for my lynch too. I'm stepping up my game though.


I think you're scum. Last time you were terribly wrong it was because you were scum, now you supported the whole "Jackal should not shoot" movement, while it's obviously the best thing he can do, given both his own statements about his expectations towards the game, and the fact that he was very close to being lynched last night that resulted in a no-lynch which will ensure he'll be controversial throughout the game.


If he is town then not shooting was the right thing. Losing 4 townies on night 1 could very well have lost the game for us on the spot.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
March 14 2012 14:02 GMT
#746
On March 14 2012 22:59 Palmar wrote:
Jackal this is boring why don't you answer my question rather than some unimportant shit asked by some unimportant person?


Because he's dodging.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
March 14 2012 22:57 GMT
#873
On March 15 2012 07:33 Kurumi wrote:
You dreamt about a mysterious figure watching people pass by during the day. You couldn't recognize their sex. When the night came, the person you saw before was busy searching for something. Suddenly, you were reading a book in your own bed with "Secrets are being unveiled" title. As soon as you read the title the entire scene disappeared. You were once again on a pitch black street and couldn't find the man or woman working secretly here before. A while passed with you standing just right in the middle of the street. You were sure it's not it wasn't the 21st century. While your thoughts were troubling you, an angry man showed up in front of you out of nowhere, saying:
- You have been warned before about violating our privacy!
After that, you regained your consciousness.


No way Ver or Incog wrote this.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
March 14 2012 23:47 GMT
#886
On March 15 2012 08:45 Jackal58 wrote:
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On March 15 2012 08:32 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
jackals claim was OBVIOUSLY fake but kurumi is tellin the truth right? fuck

Kurumi plays like this as scum and as town. That said I don't believe his role at all. It's not a role. It's gobbledegook wrapped inside a pita with nonsense sauce on it.
I have grown to enjoy the absolutely nonsensical approach Kurumi brings to the table in these games but that role PM is not a role PM.
Unless he has more to reveal about his role I don't buy it.


Decon where the hell are you?


I'm here. Voting Kurumi for his obviously faked claim.

##Vote Kurumi
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
March 15 2012 11:22 GMT
#921
On March 15 2012 16:19 Katina wrote:
We should leave kurumi alone for now and focus on better lynch targets. I feel in someway he thinks he was being useful to the town. his actions through the game have been congruent with everything he has said. Im not completely sold on him yet, hes worht keeping an eye on for now.
As for players like mattchew and Doctor H, they are better candidates for a lynch.

Mattchew: Is scummy to me, he has been from the start. He overuses animations, and he asks a lot of questions without providing his own answers. He hasn't contributed much to the town and is pretty much useless. Not to mention his mass amount of pointless one-liners.

DoctorHelvetica: He has been very inconsistent this game and that isnt helping the town. There has been a lot of fingering pointing without follow up that is just causing confusion. His lack of focus makes me wonder what's on his agenda because its not on the town.

My rising suspicion right now is on Deconduo. I have looked over his filter and noticed that he doesn't contribute much of anything either. A majority of his posts are short and just basically agreeing with whoever he is quoting. He hides and doesn't come out until someone mentions him.
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On March 14 2012 22:19 deconduo wrote:
On March 14 2012 22:15 Palmar wrote:
He has also just come off a game where he actively tried to lose the game for town as town (see resistance). I agree that he's a good target anyway though.

So do you think Caller is town? In addition, I'm thinking of killing you Deconduo, what do you have to say about that?


If you are thinking of killing me because you think I'm scum then you're wrong. If its because I've been inactive then fair enough. I would be pushing for my lynch too. I'm stepping up my game though.


He promised to step up his game and hasn't delivered.


Hi scum.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
March 15 2012 11:57 GMT
#924
On March 15 2012 20:55 Palmar wrote:
yes.

Game is complicated because I wasn't around and reading in the beginning, and no one is making enough sense for me to sheep them.


Dr. H, Wiggles, you.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
March 15 2012 12:14 GMT
#929
On March 15 2012 21:08 Jackal58 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2012 21:04 Palmar wrote:
Might lynch Caller though.

You think scum have a day vig?

I'm assuming thats a troll seeing as he's the one that told Caller to shoot Node.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
March 15 2012 12:38 GMT
#934
Why aren't people lynching Kurumi?
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
March 15 2012 12:53 GMT
#937
On March 15 2012 21:51 Palmar wrote:
probably not going to flip scum though.

he's just bleurgh


Why would a town come up with a completely fake claim to defend Jackal?
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