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nah, these scare me:
Spam:
I am a nazi on spam. Consolidate your posts and keep them focused towards contributing towards the game. The game really shouldn't have more than 30 pages by day 1. Please keep the thread readable. You will get one warning and I won't hesitate to replace you, so tread carefully. Feel free to clarify anything with me.
Manner:
Please keep it civil in here. Just because this is a game doesn't mean you have license to insult or disrespect each other. I will be very harsh on insults and players who create a bad atmosphere. Also i may ban you for using the words derp or herp because, so be warned!
Signups:
Signups are open, with preference prioritized for skilled, active players who do not have a history of disrupting games.
As a further note, while it is ok to signup for this game if you're playing in a game that will end soon, please do not play both in this game and another game simultaneously.
If I could actually play (I'm already hosting 2 games and playing in 2) I'd get modkilled within 5 minutes.
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So I'm fine when I'm scum, but for the love of god don't give me third party? :D
I'm just kidding though. I will sign up for this game based on a) who else signs up, and b) if my RL schedule allows it.
And do listen to syllogism, I'd rather play with people who still are interested in actually attempting to play the game, so sign up semi-newbies.
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I don't think it's no-flip, I think it's alignment-only-flip
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On March 01 2012 08:23 Incognito wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2012 04:51 Palmar wrote:
I don't think it's no-flip, I think it's alignment-only-flip
This is a no flip game.
my bad then.
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hey prplhz you should mason me.
If you've used both your mason things you should tell me who you used it on and why.
in addition, you should roleclaim to me, once you've masoned me.
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I should probably be medic protected tonight.
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More people should also mason me so you can roleclaim to me.
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umm VE is town. don't be dumb.
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On March 13 2012 23:01 prplhz wrote:
If Jackal58 is scum then he's putting himself in a pretty bad position here and I don't think (or hope) that he'd do that as scum.
wanna mason me?
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lol caller so mad cause owned.
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It's really annoying that you keep ignoring me prplhz.
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dude I haven't even read the thread yet.
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hey drh, who did you mason and why?
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prplhz asked a valid question, why do you not answer it?
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On March 14 2012 04:00 DoctorHelvetica wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2012 03:58 Palmar wrote:
prplhz asked a valid question, why do you not answer it? It's pointless. If I had found anything worth stating, I would have stated it. Why don't you share everything you've done in PMs Palmar? What a ridiculous question.
No it's very interesting to hear your answer DrH. The truth is that while I haven't finished reading the thread I've spent a lot of time talking to VE in PMs. I'm interested in hearing what you make of your conversations?
Also, by the sound of it you've only used one mason thing. This means you should probably use the other one on me to roleclaim.
Do you think VE is town/scum? What are his reads? What do you think of his reads, do you agree with them?
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That's like the least interesting part of my post to reply to.
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On March 14 2012 04:09 Jackal58 wrote:
Why don't you role claim to all of us Palmar. Don't even need to use a PM.
EFFICIENCY FTMFW!!!!!!!!
On March 13 2012 06:18 Pandain wrote:
im detective
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On March 14 2012 04:10 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
No it's not. You're acting as though you're entitled to ask people for extraneous information that you won't yourself give. VE is likely town, I agree with his reads although not necessarily are they prioritized in the same fashion. I'm fairly sure Jitsu and Caller are scum and he is pretty sure about Caller as well.
The only thing that seemed suspicious during PMs was how self-conscious he was about his Storm Mafia meta. That even though he was right in his reads I kept calling him out as scum. The fact that he was third party in that game made him nervous and I thought he might be expressing that he is non-town who doesn't know how to appear as town but it makes no sense for him to reveal that to a town player so I thought it was more reasonable to assume he just lacked confidence.
At any rate, I'm not roleclaiming to you.
I don't think Caller is scum, what do you think about that? Do you think I'm wrong and you and VE right? I think caller's approach all says he's pretty damn townie. Like if this is scum play my hat is off to him.
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And of course I'm entitled to all the fucking information I want. It comes with the title.
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On March 14 2012 04:12 VisceraEyes wrote:
Why Palmar? What part of his "reaction test" bullshit was the most protown to you?
the reaction test bullshit is stupid, but that doesn't make him scum. I already explained this in PMs. In addition, his reactions to the pm conversations we've had have been fairly townie. Since I don't really know how good caller is at this game I'm just going to apply a general frame of what I'd expect mafia to behave like to him, and he doesn't fit it.
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oh game has traitors.
This is boring now.
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Citizens of the civilized galaxy, on this day we mark a transition. For a thousand years, Liquidia stood as the crowning achievement of civilized beings. But there were those who would set us against one another, and we took arms to defend of way of life against the Sepratists. In doing so, we never suspected that the greatest threat came from within.
The Mafia, and some within our own council, had conspired to create the shadow of Separatism using one of their own as the enemy's leader. They had hoped to grind the town ruin. But the hatred in their hearts could not be hidden forever. As last, there came a day when our enemies showed their true natures.
The Mafia hoped to unleash their destructive power against Liquidia by assassinating the head of government and usuring control of the votes. But the aims of the would-be tyrants were valiantly opposed by those without elitist, dangerous powers. Our loyal townies contained the insurrection within Liquidia and quelled uprisings on a thousand worlds.
The remaining Mafia will be hunted down and defeated. Any collaborators will suffer the same fate. These have been trying times, but we have passed the test.
In order to ensure the security and continuing stability, Liquidia will be reorganized into the first Liquidian Empire, for a safe and secure society, which I assure you will last for 10,000 years. An Empire that will be continue to be ruled by this august body and a sovereign ruler chosen for life. An Empire ruled by the majority, ruled by a new consitution.
By bringing the entire galaxy under one law, one language, and the enlightened guidance of one individual, the corruption that plagued Liquidia in its later years will never take root. Regional governors will eliminate the bureaucracy that allowed the Separatist movement to grow unchecked. A strong and growing military will ensure the rule of law.
Under the Empire's New Order, our most cherished beliefs will be safeguarded. We will defend our ideals by force of arms. We will give no ground to our enemies and we will stand together against attacks from with or without. Let the enemies of the Empire take heed: Those who challenge Imperial resolve will be crushed.
We have taken on a task that will be difficult, but the people of the Empire are ready for the challenge. Because of our efforts, the galaxy has traded war for peace and anarchy for stability. Billions of beings now look forward to a secure future. The Empire will grow as more planets feel the call, from the Rim to the wilds of unknown space.
Imperial citizens must do their part. Join our grand star fleet. Become the eyes of the Empire by reportingsuspected insurrectionists. Travel to the corners of the galaxy to spread the principles of the New Order to barbarians. Build monuments and technical wonders that will speak of our glory for generations to come.
The townies, and proudly wearing the name of Imperial loyalists, have tackled the dangerous work of fighting our enemies on the front lines. Many have died in their devotion to the Empire. Imperial citizens would do well to remember their example.
The New Order of peace has triumphed over the shadowy secrecy of shamful magicians. The direction of our course is clear. I will lead the Empire to glories beyond imagination.
We have been tested, but we have emerged stronger. We moved forward as one people - the Imperial citizens of the first Galactic Empire. We will prevail. Ten thousand years of peace begins today.
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On March 14 2012 02:40 Kurumi wrote:
Palmar est great Regi! Palmar est good Regi! Palmar est big Regi!
Penitenziagite!
You could hardly have been more right Kurumi.
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Curu why haven't you masoned me yet? Who did you mason and why?
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On March 13 2012 05:09 Jackal58 wrote:
What a derp fest.
Since I die night one anyways with the regularity of 90 year old virgin on a prune diet I'm claiming.
I'm Dreamflower. The suicidal vigilante. If I shoot a townie I die. Whether I hit them or not. So go lynch scum ya derps.
Start with Node. That's where I'm switching my vote too. Caller has a tendency to piss me off so I'll just ignore him until I decide to shoot him.
If "always dying night 1" is a valid enough reason for you to randomly roleclaim and not properly trying to avert your lynch, why is it not good enough reason to shoot on night one? It's just contradictory if your reason for claiming was expecting death, that you did not seize the opportunity before your expected death to try and kill scum.
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@Node your one shitty contribution to the game has been to flop on Jackal's lynch based on his claim. Now that Jackal did not shoot during the night, how do you feel about it?
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I really want/need to take a harder look at DrH, Deconduo, Jackal and Node.
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Cleaning out trash, thanks Caller.
I'll just confirm right now that I asked him to kill node. The reason is well...
Node's last game as scum: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=269956&user=53526
This game: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=316574&user=53526
He has not attempted to play the game at all, it's really annoying to play with people who don't even try (rgTS I hate you), and of the shitty lurkers inhabiting this game Node seems to me like he has the highest chance of flipping scum. In addition I feel much safer with me controlling Caller's bullet and using it to clean out trash, than having him decide his own targets. Me and VE discussed Caller's alignment at length, and while we disagreed, I'm still not completely comfortable with letting caller do whatever he wants.
Looking forward to this flip. If we hit scum we are in such a good position.
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Why would mafia not shoot anyone but VE tonight?
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He has also just come off a game where he actively tried to lose the game for town as town (see resistance). I agree that he's a good target anyway though.
So do you think Caller is town? In addition, I'm thinking of killing you Deconduo, what do you have to say about that?
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Jackal, that's not how it works, you already claimed that:
I'm Dreamflower. The suicidal vigilante. If I shoot a townie I die. Whether I hit them or not
If I attempt to shoot a townie I die. Period. That's how my roIle PM is written. It states no matter how my shot is blocked I die.
It's reasonable to assume you didn't shoot. In addition, assuming you are actually dreamflower and Curu is scum, how would he have any knowledge of whether or not you shot?
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On March 14 2012 22:19 deconduo wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2012 22:15 Palmar wrote:
He has also just come off a game where he actively tried to lose the game for town as town (see resistance). I agree that he's a good target anyway though.
So do you think Caller is town? In addition, I'm thinking of killing you Deconduo, what do you have to say about that? If you are thinking of killing me because you think I'm scum then you're wrong. If its because I've been inactive then fair enough. I would be pushing for my lynch too. I'm stepping up my game though.
I think you're scum. Last time you were terribly wrong it was because you were scum, now you supported the whole "Jackal should not shoot" movement, while it's obviously the best thing he can do, given both his own statements about his expectations towards the game, and the fact that he was very close to being lynched last night that resulted in a no-lynch which will ensure he'll be controversial throughout the game.
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The problem is that it's not beneficial for town to have to be hung up on Jackal's alignment for so long. It's strictly inefficient not to shoot just to clear shit up. Remember, he was the prime lynch candidate last night but somehow did not get randomly lynched. Usually when deadline is close and a no lynch is happening people just flock towards whatever lynch works because they think it'll give them information, this didn't happen. Why?
And what's with the pessimism? Jackal is a decent player, he is well capable of shooting scum, especially when, assuming he's town, he has been the victim of tunneling for the last game-day, it should be quite possible to spot scum on that wagon, for the person on the other end.
Even if only to clear out some lurkertrash, jackal did the town a disfavour by not shooting.
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Jackal this is boring why don't you answer my question rather than some unimportant shit asked by some unimportant person?
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On March 14 2012 20:27 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2012 05:09 Jackal58 wrote:
What a derp fest.
Since I die night one anyways with the regularity of 90 year old virgin on a prune diet I'm claiming.
I'm Dreamflower. The suicidal vigilante. If I shoot a townie I die. Whether I hit them or not. So go lynch scum ya derps.
Start with Node. That's where I'm switching my vote too. Caller has a tendency to piss me off so I'll just ignore him until I decide to shoot him. If "always dying night 1" is a valid enough reason for you to randomly roleclaim and not properly trying to avert your lynch, why is it not good enough reason to shoot on night one? It's just contradictory if your reason for claiming was expecting death, that you did not seize the opportunity before your expected death to try and kill scum.
answer.
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Feel free to mason and roleclaim to me then Curu.
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On March 14 2012 23:44 Jackal58 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2012 23:17 Palmar wrote:On March 14 2012 20:27 Palmar wrote:On March 13 2012 05:09 Jackal58 wrote:
What a derp fest.
Since I die night one anyways with the regularity of 90 year old virgin on a prune diet I'm claiming.
I'm Dreamflower. The suicidal vigilante. If I shoot a townie I die. Whether I hit them or not. So go lynch scum ya derps.
Start with Node. That's where I'm switching my vote too. Caller has a tendency to piss me off so I'll just ignore him until I decide to shoot him. If "always dying night 1" is a valid enough reason for you to randomly roleclaim and not properly trying to avert your lynch, why is it not good enough reason to shoot on night one? It's just contradictory if your reason for claiming was expecting death, that you did not seize the opportunity before your expected death to try and kill scum. answer. I didn't "randomly" role claim. I claimed to avoid being lynched. And if I had a high expectation of somebody being scum I would have shot. But I didn't. So I didn't. So bite me. Curu is scum. I'll shoot him tonight.
How do you feel about shooting DrH or Deconduo instead?
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I hate playing roles, but fuck it. Jackal is likely telling the truth, I have additional information to back up his claim.
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Mattchew's practically confirmed town, try again.
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On March 15 2012 03:59 jaybrundage wrote:
Oh and Palmar I would like you to PM me and roleclaim to me please.
Who the fuck do you think you are.
Bow to your king.
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seriously it's fucking annoying to play with people who don't attempt to play the game.
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On March 15 2012 03:55 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Curu is lying, I never once said Jackal's role was good for town or pro-town. I said it's a retarded lynch.
"Why are we lynching a claimed blue with town KP instead of Jitsu again? Because this is a "normal" game ? "
Apparently not wanting to mislynch someone who is potentially useful down the line (after a broadcasted DT check for example) which I say easily in the same breath as calling it a role that is generally bad for town, those statements are in no way contradictory, means I think his role is great for town and I'm a liar
Curu you are either scum or a complete fucking moron
I want to kill you next. How do you feel about that?
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OK this is super weird. Kurumi claims that he got the information that there is indeed a dreamflower role present in the game with his Role PM.
In addition he claims he's a dreamer, ie: gets clues every night.
What weirds me out is that I didn't get any information with the role PM, but I know this:
The mafia will be given some information some of the blue roles that are in the game, but will not be told how many exist.
I'm just not sure
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I'm not talking about you, I'm talking about Node. It's annoying having to clear out trash townies before you can actually start playing a game.
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I really hate this shit. It's almost completely impossible to replace into a game and be useful. This is the hardest thing I've ever done in mafia, because nothing makes sense. I'm on the verge of just systematically trying to lynch people whose posting I think is shit.
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yes.
Game is complicated because I wasn't around and reading in the beginning, and no one is making enough sense for me to sheep them.
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I want to lynch DrH I think
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Might lynch Caller though.
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On March 15 2012 21:08 Jackal58 wrote:You think scum have a day vig?
Why not? I mean it's about as believable as there being a dreamflower who almost gets lynched but doesn't shoot, in addition to dreamflower herself wanting the name of the role changed, and it was in responsibility mafia, wonder why they went back to call it dreamflower again?
Or did they?
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probably not going to flip scum though.
he's just bleurgh
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Cause bleurgh. Maybe I'm wrong though, I'm not gonna stop a lynch on him. I still want to lynch you Deconduo.
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Someone else take over the game, not my problem anymore. I nominate Mattchew to be the new thread leader because why not.
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On March 15 2012 21:56 Jackal58 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2012 21:54 Palmar wrote:
Cause bleurgh. Maybe I'm wrong though, I'm not gonna stop a lynch on him. I still want to lynch you Deconduo. Let's lynch Abenson instead.
Can't you just shoot him tongiht?
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it's just another lynch, no reason to keep that fucker alive, he'll be dead at dusk.
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no it's just an extra lynch. I might as well say this now. VisceraEyes was a kingmaker. He made me a king, giving me the power to lynch, and I have to lynch or I die.
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you should've shot jackal, but at least, don't worry. I'm joining you soon enough, scum will win this game ez.
I'm never replacing into games again.
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Just wanna apologize to town, really, this is the worst game of mafia I've ever played, I honestly have no clue because it's impossible to scumhunt when I miss day 1, at least it seems to be for me.
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let's kill everyone who isnt' obvious town
obvious town being mattchew, sentinel, me, jitsu, gumshoe and maybe katina and rgTS.
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Bill Murray needs to die for lack of effort
Jackal needs to die for not shooting night 1
Mr. Wiggles needs to die because he doesn't seem to care about how this game is going, just popping by to drop stupid posts every once in a while.
DrH needs to die for not wanting jackal to shoot and being in general pretty complacent with how badly the game is going
Caller needs to die because VE says he's scum
Kurumi needs to die for claiming having gotten information with his role PM which just doesn't fit. I know I didn't get any.
deconduo needs to die for just being afk, useless and shitty.
Abenson needs to die for lurking.
Curu needs to die for sheeping me without a question, yet providing very little except the case on jackal . If jackal flips scum he's town though.
prplhz needs to die because he did something incredibly dumb with his role if he's telling the truth about it.
If you kill this list, dear townies, we'll win. Don't even think about killing anyone outside the list before those people are all dead.
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Here are some interesting connections.
If Jackal flips scum, that probably clears prplhz, curu and caller, but the problem is, these three are all very linked in my mind. If prplhz or curu flips scum, please kill the other one.
If jackal flips town it says very little about DrH and Deconduo.
Wiggles is not connected to anyone, really.
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On March 16 2012 01:47 Jackal58 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2012 01:03 Palmar wrote:
you should've shot jackal, but at least, don't worry. I'm joining you soon enough, scum will win this game ez.
I'm never replacing into games again. Vigs that shoot night one are almost always wrong. They are almost always stupid. Like the dumbshit that shot me in Storm. I choose my own levels of dumbassery. So far that's been limited to blowing you up. I guess it's your turn.
I can't say that when mattchew suggested just lynching I wasn't thrilled by the idea of killing you. In addition, you got shot by mafia in storm Jackal.
I wonder if I can change my lynch, that would be interesting.
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Bad sentence, sorry, second language etc.
What I'm trying to say.
Mattchew told me to just lynch you, and I was excited, because I love the idea of killing you.
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Cool, now I'm like triple confirmed town.
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On March 16 2012 12:24 Katina wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2012 12:22 Palmar wrote:
Cool, now I'm like triple confirmed town. No you're not. You shot Jackal.
Don't forget killing node.
That just makes me even more confirmed.
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please give me them medic protections tonight.
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this game is boring, anyone who doesn't realize I'm confirmed town is being dumb as fucking hell.
Katina, jaybrundage, both claim who you masoned and why.
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sandroba, if rgTS didn't use his mason things, you should probably drop one on me.
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It's not whether I was right or wrong, it's how it happened that matters.
And no, my town game is fine. Even replacing in (which is basically a huge-ass handicap) I'm still being more useful than almost everyone else in this game.
What do you gain by discrediting me?
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oh ok.
@DrH can you post all your pm logs with VisceraEyes?
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Btw, once the night is over, we're mass claiming our mason ties. Even if I get killed you still do it.
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JB is being a dumbass, not sure if he's scum for it or not.
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I might post every single PM log and piece of information I have before day breaks, I fully expect to die tonight.
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On March 16 2012 14:23 jaybrundage wrote:
WAIT how is Palmar getting cred for the lynch i pushed. This doesnt make any sense. You guys are delusional. You are assuming Palmar is town based on nothing. He hasn't dont shit this game. Besides kill two townies.
Saying Palmar is confirmed town is pretty retarded. He's not He needs to start pushing good lynches and start doing work as town.
Why are you actively trying to discredit me. That lynch wouldn't have happened without me outing Kurumi's claim in the thread.
It seems like a very odd and selfish and dumb choice of strategy to simply jump on someone who's actively trying to get scum killed, and then claiming so much town credit for yourself, to the point you're demanding medic protection. Excuse me but... who the fuck do you think you are?
I mean, sure while I think it should be obvious to anyone with half a brain that I'm town, it might not be, but what's your motivation here?
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did you only pm one person jay?
If you have the other one left, it'd help your cause to PM me and roleclaim?
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On March 16 2012 22:35 Mr. Wiggles wrote:Palmar, can you answer: Show nested quote +On March 16 2012 13:38 Mr. Wiggles wrote:Palmar, how did you go from: On March 14 2012 23:51 Palmar wrote:
I hate playing roles, but fuck it. Jackal is likely telling the truth, I have additional information to back up his claim. To: On March 15 2012 23:02 Palmar wrote:
##Lynch: Jackal58 Looking through your posts, you flip-flop on three different people, and then do this seemingly out of the blue. What made you decide to switch to Jackal?
No.
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On March 17 2012 06:30 jaybrundage wrote:
At worse their is one or two mafia on the Kurumi lynch (Mattchew or Palmar) and the more I see Palmar post the scummier he gets. Palmar you need to to be transparent. You aren't explaining any of your reasoning to town.
Dumb, bad or scum.
In all three cases further input from you into the thread are not needed.
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I had no idea that replacing into a game was so different and hard.
And it didn't help that people just decided to latch onto me as soon as I joined the game.
Thing is, the entire reason people think I'm good at mafia is because I tend to have pretty solid day 1 reads. Without being hands on in that day this was really hard to deal with. And as soon as I was getting on track mafia just offed me with a day vig. Dumb shit, meh :/
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