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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
March 14 2012 01:44 GMT
#672
On March 14 2012 10:43 Mattchew wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2012 10:37 jaybrundage wrote:
On March 14 2012 09:36 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
jaybrundage, how are you differentiating between scummy lurkers and not scummy lurkers?


Simple, Its just like looking at someone that post's regularly. You look at there posts and see any hidden agenda's or inconsistencies. I'm post who i think we should lynch tommorow. Don't like posting cases at night D:

But Doc how about you do you think we should go for Caller or Jitsu still?

so what do you think of bill murray

I think I can't answer that without being mean.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
March 14 2012 01:47 GMT
#674
On March 14 2012 10:37 jaybrundage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2012 09:36 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
jaybrundage, how are you differentiating between scummy lurkers and not scummy lurkers?


Simple, Its just like looking at someone that post's regularly. You look at there posts and see any hidden agenda's or inconsistencies. I'm post who i think we should lynch tommorow. Don't like posting cases at night D:

But Doc how about you do you think we should go for Caller or Jitsu still?

akbifbieyrbihcbod sonfeoruneor swkncvojerwnojenbbv ;almdpwojoury lsnvoerng ???????????????????????
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
March 14 2012 01:47 GMT
#675
On March 14 2012 10:46 Mattchew wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2012 10:44 Jackal58 wrote:
On March 14 2012 10:43 Mattchew wrote:
On March 14 2012 10:37 jaybrundage wrote:
On March 14 2012 09:36 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
jaybrundage, how are you differentiating between scummy lurkers and not scummy lurkers?


Simple, Its just like looking at someone that post's regularly. You look at there posts and see any hidden agenda's or inconsistencies. I'm post who i think we should lynch tommorow. Don't like posting cases at night D:

But Doc how about you do you think we should go for Caller or Jitsu still?

so what do you think of bill murray

I think I can't answer that without being mean.

mean to who?

Bill Murray of course.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
March 14 2012 13:17 GMT
#736
On March 14 2012 13:14 Curu wrote:
Oh look Jackal didn't shoot what a fucking surprise.

You would know this how?
You would be positive about this how?
You would state this as a fact how?


And no I didn't.

You're disappointed I didn't kill a townie and myself why?
If we're both alive at the end of today I guarantee you I'm shooting you.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
March 14 2012 14:03 GMT
#747
On March 14 2012 22:19 Palmar wrote:
Jackal, that's not how it works, you already claimed that:

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I'm Dreamflower. The suicidal vigilante. If I shoot a townie I die. Whether I hit them or not


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If I attempt to shoot a townie I die. Period. That's how my roIle PM is written. It states no matter how my shot is blocked I die.


It's reasonable to assume you didn't shoot. In addition, assuming you are actually dreamflower and Curu is scum, how would he have any knowledge of whether or not you shot?

If I shot at scum I would still be alive. Whether they used a medic or roleblock or busdriver or what not. Scum would know if I had shot one of them.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
March 14 2012 14:03 GMT
#748
On March 14 2012 22:59 Palmar wrote:
Jackal this is boring why don't you answer my question rather than some unimportant shit asked by some unimportant person?

Ask
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
March 14 2012 14:04 GMT
#749
On March 14 2012 22:31 Mattchew wrote:
we started with 17 - 18 town vs 4 scum 1 traitor

I agree losing 2 extra townies would suck, but it would hardly cripple us... its weirder that jackal thought he was getting shot and didn't use his powers

I'm the last person scum would shoot. They think they have a free lynch.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
March 14 2012 14:05 GMT
#750
On March 14 2012 22:36 Palmar wrote:
The problem is that it's not beneficial for town to have to be hung up on Jackal's alignment for so long. It's strictly inefficient not to shoot just to clear shit up. Remember, he was the prime lynch candidate last night but somehow did not get randomly lynched. Usually when deadline is close and a no lynch is happening people just flock towards whatever lynch works because they think it'll give them information, this didn't happen. Why?

And what's with the pessimism? Jackal is a decent player, he is well capable of shooting scum, especially when, assuming he's town, he has been the victim of tunneling for the last game-day, it should be quite possible to spot scum on that wagon, for the person on the other end.

Even if only to clear out some lurkertrash, jackal did the town a disfavour by not shooting.

You scum Palmar?
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
March 14 2012 14:44 GMT
#755
On March 14 2012 23:17 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2012 20:27 Palmar wrote:
On March 13 2012 05:09 Jackal58 wrote:
What a derp fest.
Since I die night one anyways with the regularity of 90 year old virgin on a prune diet I'm claiming.
I'm Dreamflower. The suicidal vigilante. If I shoot a townie I die. Whether I hit them or not. So go lynch scum ya derps.
Start with Node. That's where I'm switching my vote too. Caller has a tendency to piss me off so I'll just ignore him until I decide to shoot him.


If "always dying night 1" is a valid enough reason for you to randomly roleclaim and not properly trying to avert your lynch, why is it not good enough reason to shoot on night one? It's just contradictory if your reason for claiming was expecting death, that you did not seize the opportunity before your expected death to try and kill scum.


answer.

I didn't "randomly" role claim. I claimed to avoid being lynched. And if I had a high expectation of somebody being scum I would have shot. But I didn't. So I didn't. So bite me.

Curu is scum. I'll shoot him tonight.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
March 14 2012 14:45 GMT
#756
On March 14 2012 23:25 Curu wrote:
The fact that Jackal insinuated over and over that he was going to shoot then didn't is another giant sign. When the claim was saving him from lynch, he constantly said he would prove it by shooting. But then he doesn't. Because he can't.

I never said I'd prove it. Show me scummy.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
March 14 2012 14:54 GMT
#760
On March 14 2012 23:53 Curu wrote:
Mattchew's looking pretty damn bad too. After VE made the case on Caller he didn't say anything about it, choosing to go for BM instead and not even commenting on the case.

After VE dies the case is suddenly "very good" and he decides to go with it without once mentioning or commenting on it before. Then he tries to ridicule the Jackal58 case with some stupid quoting from the OP then when Palmar lays it on Jackal as well he starts softly "reconsidering." Smells like riding the bandwagon to me.

Think Town, if I was scum what motivation would I possibly have to push Jackal as hard and singlemindedly as I am? To kill a "blue?" The blue role claimed is more detrimental to Town than Mafia, if I was Mafia I'd happily leave him be and let him do whatever he wants.

Because you're not very bright.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
March 14 2012 18:58 GMT
#780
On March 15 2012 03:55 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Curu is lying, I never once said Jackal's role was good for town or pro-town. I said it's a retarded lynch.


"Why are we lynching a claimed blue with town KP instead of Jitsu again? Because this is a "normal" game ? "

Apparently not wanting to mislynch someone who is potentially useful down the line (after a broadcasted DT check for example) which I say easily in the same breath as calling it a role that is generally bad for town, those statements are in no way contradictory, means I think his role is great for town and I'm a liar

Curu you are either scum or a complete fucking moron

Those are not mutually exclusive properties.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
March 14 2012 20:49 GMT
#820
[image blocked]
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
March 14 2012 21:21 GMT
#833
PM from Kurumi.
This was during night 1


From: Kurumi [ 3327 posts | Profile | Buddy | Report ]
Subject: Re: I am scared
Date: 3/14/12 05:09
There's plan behind all my actions.
Yes, You can't shoot me. That would end bad. Also lol@ people calling Your role "themed", it's just Self-Concious Vigilante with a different name if what You're claiming is true.
I wonder why You were on the table Day 1, I couldn't understand it. How are You feeling right now, though? Ready to crush some scum? The thing that worries me is Palmar/VE/prplhz/layabout, they're quite malicious. Bill Murray surprisingly looks GOOD. A huge letdown by deconduo and Node(one of the reasons I voted him)
Do You think in case of incoming mislynch tomorrow we should get rid of a lurker? I think it'd be better than a no-lynch.

Original Message From Jackal58:
If they think you are the traitor as it appears to me your trying to make it look like you are why should you be scared? I can't shoot you. Scum probably won't.

Hide nested quote -
Original Message From Kurumi:
Great Jackal the "Dreamflower", I am scared. I don't know if I will make it through the night. They don't want to burn heretics. They don't want to purge the mutant. I am scared. I know too much. Also *redacted* is a dick.
I am so paranoid. Everyone is Spy. Everyone is bad. You are bad! No, You're good.. Kurumi is good.. Kurumi knows things!
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
March 14 2012 23:17 GMT
#878
On March 15 2012 06:51 Mattchew wrote:
jackal have you used your pm's?

No I have not.
Gumshoe and Kurumi have both contacted me.


On March 15 2012 07:30 prplhz wrote:
Yea, but you didn't think so. Your case was bad from your point of view and that was what I was trying to say.

The chance is not 19/23.

There are 22 other townies than him and 5 bad guys, 4 scum + 1 traitor. Quickly down to 5/18, or almost 1/3. Jackal58 is a smart guy and I believe that he could make those odds even better.

I thought the risk of him shooting into his best scum read was worth the reward of having the issue resolved. Curu and Palmar both think this too so there has to be something about it, yes?

You were one shot of Ugly Dog short of getting your dick blown off.



On March 15 2012 06:31 Kurumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2012 06:10 prplhz wrote:
Also, jaybrundage said yesterday that he thought it looked like a traitor hint and that we should lynch you. Why the hell would he not just shut the hell up if he was scum and he really thought it was a real traitor hint?

1st:
He was after Jackal58 day one. He believed he was scum. He dropped him, without any mention on D2 and jumped on me without any strong evidence. He's now gone too. I have no idea what's going there, but I think it's scummy.
I don't know how his team decided to play it out. They were probably convinced I am really traitor so they made Jay go for easy cred in case I die or something and try to recruit me and go from there. But it failed, because I am not the traitor. But thanks to my trap they can use it to push my lynch, I knew it could backfire on me. I took the risk for the greater good.

Hey Jackal, did You get roleblocked tonight?
You haven't said anything so I guess no.

If I was role blocked I was not informed of said role block. If scum used any ability on me I would assume it was role reversal. Dunno if I would shoot myself in that case. If prp is town and scum thought he was the individual I was most likely to shoot they probably used nothing on me.


I have no idea what to make of Kurumi. But the role he posted is not a role. It's either a proposal from Caller or he made it up. There is no action involved in it. No explanation of the mechanic involved. No description of what it is or how it works.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
March 14 2012 23:18 GMT
#879
On March 15 2012 08:13 layabout wrote:
@"People that have played multiple games with Kurumi",

Do you think a town-aligned Kurumi would act as he has acted so far?

Yes. He has before.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
March 14 2012 23:35 GMT
#884
On March 15 2012 08:28 prplhz wrote:
Yea this whole argument against DoctorHelvetica was mostly just for my amusement but the rest of your case I don't agree with. (could call it bad but then you're just going to call me negative)

I have a hard time reading Kurumi's behavior because he insists on making a big thing out of being insane and polish in all games. Like this Rattata needs friends traitor hint pokémon rant stuff, I have no idea what to make of it other than Kurumi trying to make himself harder to understand while complaining that people don't want to understand him. His actions speak for themselves though.

@Kurumi Hinting on night1 that you were fake claiming traitor when townies were already complaining means nothing.

This is the only thing in this entire game you have said that makes any sense. Congratulations. You have surpassed Curu.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
March 14 2012 23:45 GMT
#885
On March 15 2012 08:32 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
jackals claim was OBVIOUSLY fake but kurumi is tellin the truth right? fuck

Kurumi plays like this as scum and as town. That said I don't believe his role at all. It's not a role. It's gobbledegook wrapped inside a pita with nonsense sauce on it.
I have grown to enjoy the absolutely nonsensical approach Kurumi brings to the table in these games but that role PM is not a role PM.
Unless he has more to reveal about his role I don't buy it.


Decon where the hell are you?
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
March 14 2012 23:52 GMT
#888
On March 15 2012 08:49 Mattchew wrote:
jackal you gonna shoot tonight?

Not unless I can put somebody above an 80% probability of them being scum. You scum?
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
March 14 2012 23:53 GMT
#889
On March 15 2012 08:47 deconduo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2012 08:45 Jackal58 wrote:
On March 15 2012 08:32 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
jackals claim was OBVIOUSLY fake but kurumi is tellin the truth right? fuck

Kurumi plays like this as scum and as town. That said I don't believe his role at all. It's not a role. It's gobbledegook wrapped inside a pita with nonsense sauce on it.
I have grown to enjoy the absolutely nonsensical approach Kurumi brings to the table in these games but that role PM is not a role PM.
Unless he has more to reveal about his role I don't buy it.


Decon where the hell are you?


I'm here. Voting Kurumi for his obviously faked claim.

##Vote Kurumi

Anybody else you would vote for?
Life can only kill you once.
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