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Maverick32x
Profile Joined April 2011
United States311 Posts
March 10 2012 04:43 GMT
#401
cant^
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Maverick32x
Profile Joined April 2011
United States311 Posts
March 11 2012 03:08 GMT
#407
The more you're posting against me... The clearer it is what side you're on dim..

I think the safest vote is sufficiency? That's who I will be voting for.
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Maverick32x
Profile Joined April 2011
United States311 Posts
March 11 2012 03:13 GMT
#409
If you're so sure... Who's the second Mafia? You have yet to answer that question and is a major flaw in claim...
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Maverick32x
Profile Joined April 2011
United States311 Posts
March 11 2012 03:21 GMT
#411
You're dodging... Im voting sufficiency and you're attacking me... I think you're worried that I've figured out your Mafia team and youre freaking out...

Think globally... Who have I worked with out of the remainders? What indicates my connection to them as mafia?
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Maverick32x
Profile Joined April 2011
United States311 Posts
March 11 2012 03:30 GMT
#413
So who are you voting for ?

Also sorry for the short responses...I'm on my phone...
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Maverick32x
Profile Joined April 2011
United States311 Posts
March 11 2012 03:44 GMT
#415
So you're protecting sufficiency again? I'm sensing a pattern here..

I'm interested to hear everyone else on this... We are in a lynch or lose situation and dim wants to take a gamble on one of the most pro town players in this game who has identified the remaining Mafia... Read the filters and you'll reach the same conclusion I have...

I see we are now on opposites dim.. it will be sad if you're town... But it's looking less and less likely...
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Maverick32x
Profile Joined April 2011
United States311 Posts
March 11 2012 04:36 GMT
#420
So you're going to say that Willz.. the guy who tried to PREVENT an Oto lynch is going to be the next Mafia player?

Ha. That's awesome Dim.... So I guess the deciding vote will be Blubb then?


On March 06 2012 08:12 willz22912 wrote:
Okay, took a look at the responses.

We definitely have to get a successful lynch off on someone today otherwise mafia gets another free kill and we're still clueless. My top suspect so far is still Sufficiency, he still hasn't contributed anything meaningful and hasn't responded to any of the new accusations brought upon him. The other suspects proposed are OtoshimonoU and Rainmaker because he hasn't been active.

I'm inclined to just leave OtoshimonoU alone for another day and vote someone else like Sufficiency or Rainmaker, but you guys are seriously pushing for OtoshimonoU...

I am 90% confident that if we do decide to lynch OtoshimonoU he will flip green making the situation completely muddled. Better to get rid of someone who is barely active than a ridiculously easy target. If mafia were really pushing for his lynch than as stated, why has the vote been so hard to pull off? 3 Mafia + bandwagoning townies would have made it easy, the most likely reasoning is that we had too many lurkers fail to vote. That doesn't mean the Mafia are targetting him, that means that they are most likely content to just let us go after a mis-lynch on our own without trying to influence us too much.

That being said, I will be willing to switch to the OtoshimonoU vote if people are dead set on it, and we need my vote. I will state for the record that I am against this, but if it's a choice between a no-lynch and OtoshimonoU then we have no choice, and can try and gain information from it.



Willz clearly DOESN'T want to vote for Oto.. yet he will go with so that we get a lynch.. He was the only person who stepped up and tried to prevent this from happening... Is that a Mafia agenda?

I guess this is your attempt at targeting the only remaining person who has targeted you as well?
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Maverick32x
Profile Joined April 2011
United States311 Posts
March 11 2012 17:06 GMT
#427
On March 11 2012 14:01 DimmuKlok wrote:
It wasn't calling me out that made it obvious. It wasn't even defending Maverick. What sold the deal was that you, along with Maverick, wanted to push the Sufficiency lynch. Maverick should be considered confirmed mafia after the reply I made about him. His focus first and foremost was a Sufficiency lynch. This made it obvious that he was town. The only options was you or Blubb. I had suspected that it was you after going through your filter, but I knew one of you would slip.

Blubb, go through Mavericks and Willz filters and see their relations to eachother and gunman. You'll see it.




On March 01 2012 13:48 DimmuKlok wrote:
We shouldn't need to worry about a RL and I don't see the point in discussing one. Even if we don't have a solid case on someone after the first day, we would be better off lynching a lurker than someone at random. Mafia would love to not have to contribute.



Those are your words. Yet Sufficiency literally hasn't contributed at all.. and somehow wanting to vote him off his considered "confirmed mafia?" Give me a break... you're falling all over yourself right now!!!

And whats my relationship to gunman? The fact that I was the first person who committed to Gunman's vote? I don't see how you can say otherwise when its clear that I was the person that made that shift.. in essence... SAVING you Dim.....


Now lets take a bit of a deeper look into Mafia's reasons for lynching trackd00r.... It was clear that he had already been posting negatively about Dim.. he had come up with a large list of reasons why he was mafia.... Perhaps this was an attempt to keep Dim safe from his major opposition?
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Maverick32x
Profile Joined April 2011
United States311 Posts
March 11 2012 21:50 GMT
#434
But you didn't post any read.. in fact you are trying to instill doubt with that post right there.... Despite the fact that all he has done all game is lurk.. some how he's "smart"....
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Maverick32x
Profile Joined April 2011
United States311 Posts
March 12 2012 16:07 GMT
#439
I'd have to have REALLY compelling evidence to not vote sufficiency.. the way I see it- if sufficiency is mafia, then we've won the game..

Lets play out a couple scenarios-

We vote out Sufficiency who is Mafia- Dim is the clear next target based off everything we have said, and his reaction so far.
We vote out Willz who is Mafia- Well I guess I'd be the logical next target, and we lose, thought it could still be sufficiency or Blubbz....
We vote out Blubbz who is mafia- Well, it could be any of the remainders really...
We vote out Dim who is mafia- This leaves Sufficiency or Blubbz, since either of them COULD be mafia....
And I guess for the fun of it, I get voted out and we lose.

Obviously any person we vote out and we're wrong about.. we will lose.

This is something that worries me however.. a lot.. and I was thinking about this before I went to bed...

I made my read BEFORE the night ended... yet I'm still alive and trackd00r was killed... Is it possible that I was left alive so that I would be able to mislead the town into lynching Sufficiency/Dim? Or would my death be seen as a confirmation of my theory, so I couldn't be killed or else the mafia would be sure to lose?
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Maverick32x
Profile Joined April 2011
United States311 Posts
March 12 2012 17:51 GMT
#441
I've encouraged everyone to look at me neutrally... I get the sense that people are just 'assuming' I'm town because I've been vocal since the start and type big posts.... Read them, and decide for yourself.

Trackd00r was really arguing a lot.. so maybe that is what happened? I'll try not to read too much into it I guess.. hard to guess motivations...

As for why Sufficiency is the safest over Dim.. if we vote for Dim, that leaves A LOT of possibilities open... Willz could still be mafia.. you could still be mafia... I could still be mafia....

If we vote out sufficiency.. its clear how adament Dim has defended him, and how myself, you and Willz all have targetting sufficiency much more than Dim... so logically.. thats the next step....

Either way for me, it doesn't really matter.. I'll vote for Dim or Sufficiency first.. whichever you guys think will lock down our last vote....
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Maverick32x
Profile Joined April 2011
United States311 Posts
March 12 2012 21:39 GMT
#446
yeesh... okay- lets keep this in mind... we are in a lynch or lose situation.. if we screw up a lynch.. its game...

As for trying to sacrifice a mafia to establish credibility- YES!!! That is EXACTLY the problem right now!! That is why I asked you to extend your vote PAST the first person, and to look to who is also the second. You need to be right TWICE in order to win.

And that quote is an awesome example of me sticking up for you- since I saw a lot of your behaviors as pro-town. Based off my reads however- the only logical TWO (not ONE, but TWO), would be you and sufficiency.. no other players line up as well as you guys do.... I can point to every single person left and try to devise reasons why they ALONE are mafia.. However, that is not enough for us to win the game... we need to look at interactions between players and the way we all have interacted in order to come to a conclusion that WINS.
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Maverick32x
Profile Joined April 2011
United States311 Posts
March 12 2012 22:13 GMT
#450
@Blubb, I'm going Suff...

And Dim- I'm not saying my reads are perfect by ANY stretch of the imagination.. but it shows that I make decisions based off the information I have presented at the moment..
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Maverick32x
Profile Joined April 2011
United States311 Posts
March 12 2012 22:23 GMT
#453
That is a very real possibility willz.. I'll switch to Dim if we are worried about that?
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Maverick32x
Profile Joined April 2011
United States311 Posts
March 13 2012 01:12 GMT
#456
whoa.. super TWIST!!! I will say Dim.. you just got some serious +town in my book... this is looking more difficult than I thought....
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Maverick32x
Profile Joined April 2011
United States311 Posts
March 13 2012 13:03 GMT
#462
We would of lost... If Dim is mafia... I wouldn't even be mad... Just impressed... I know you said you were going to sleep blubb... But you picked an awful time to just cast your vote and leave it...

So confused right now...
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Maverick32x
Profile Joined April 2011
United States311 Posts
March 13 2012 15:34 GMT
#464
I actually have 'work' to do at work sadly.. but my one thought that I want to throw in there.. is that if Dim was mafia.. he could of stuck to his guns and voted for me... and we would of lost the game.... why bother busing anyone when he could of won straight out? I'm going to look into the remaining people a bit more when I get a chance....
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Maverick32x
Profile Joined April 2011
United States311 Posts
March 13 2012 19:07 GMT
#466
Very true.. .I'm going to check the filters either way .Especially now that we KNOW sufficiency is mafia...

As for the kill in the night.. that will also be extremely interesting....
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Maverick32x
Profile Joined April 2011
United States311 Posts
March 13 2012 19:51 GMT
#468
I'm leaning heavily on you not being Mafia Dim, and I'd like the remaining people to also consider this.... Not saying that he is 100% town or anything.....

Like I said, busy day at work, but when I get home I'll make a post before the night ends in case I get killed, kind of outlining my remaining thoughts... I'll try to get a list together of what I think specific people deaths during this last night could represent and point out who I think is most suspicious!

As for what would of happened if Dim didn't change his vote... we would of lost the game... Even if Dim was trying to bus his teammate, that is so risky when he literally could of WON. Right then and there. He could of stuck to a story of ME busing my own team mate, and using that as leverage to try to kill me and win the game...

Another thing that is important for those of you looking through the filters... don't forget that some of the players are replacement players... so perhaps we could look at the things they said previously that could indicate an alignment now that we know the full story?


Generally speaking- I want to point out that it appears Myself, Dim and Willz are the most 'active' of the remainders... Blubb- looking at you to try to put some stuff together here....
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Maverick32x
Profile Joined April 2011
United States311 Posts
March 13 2012 23:15 GMT
#471
Very interesting Blubb... I'll take that DT reveal with a grain of salt though sadly...

Here is my read:
@Gunman- I don't really like to do this kind of 'read' in general since I don't think it carries much weight, but I figured I may as well point it out.. Look at his beginning posts... This is WHO he is responding to...

1st: Dim-
2nd: sufficiency
3rd: Sufficiency
4th: No One
5th: Dim
6th: No one
7th: Targets one confirmed townie and Willz former life.
8th: Quotes Pablols, targets Willz and confirmed townie.
Trails off here, but I just think I wanted to point that out...

Bringing up Willz's character so early on and trying to make him a target could clear Willz as mafia...? He also defends me and stats I'm town (I don't want to leave this out so you guys will jump on me for it) but I think that was more of a move to establish credibility...

@Sufficiency- Much less to be read in his posts.. Its difficult because he is so short with everyone that it doesn't give you any information...

To be honest, my decision rests between Blubb and Dim.. both of them have very convincing stories/actions that make this extremely difficult to decide between.. Willz- if you are mafia.. congratulations.. you did an awesome job...

I would be voting for Dim without a doubt if it wasn't for those most recent voting antics.. unless this really was a plan to just fool us.. I truly don't know...

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