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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
February 27 2012 11:26 GMT
#24
/in
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
February 28 2012 00:36 GMT
#53
Probulous is pretty lovable jackal, you'll learn to like him
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
February 28 2012 09:46 GMT
#66
dude, weren't you on my team in werewolves? didn't we win that game?
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
February 28 2012 10:03 GMT
#67
On February 28 2012 09:55 Paperscraps wrote:
Palmar is scum this game and will be lynched.

I can tell from his one post, because I am brilliant.


Incorrect, there is a third party in the game so you can be pretty certain that's what my alignment is.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
February 28 2012 14:06 GMT
#69
Will the teams be balanced or completely randomized?

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please say randomized...
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
February 28 2012 21:54 GMT
#77
Not like I ever understood that game.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
February 29 2012 23:21 GMT
#99
heads up people, deadline is like 2 or 3 am icelandic time. I'll be sleeping so feel free to be dumb as shit close to the lynch.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 01 2012 09:33 GMT
#152
yo guys, I rolled Vanilla Townie.

Also, I think sandroba's plan is actually excellent.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 01 2012 09:55 GMT
#153
like seriously, if sandroba or I turn out to be town, you should probably just do whatever we tell you to do.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 01 2012 11:27 GMT
#155
Do you think that's a valid question Probulous? Do you honestly think I would scumslip? The obvious (and correct) explanation was that I meant post-death. ie: if I get shot and flip, please re-read what I said and consider that I may have been right.

However, the fact that you jump on it is interesting to me, and why do you do it in such a soft way? Do you actually think that I might be scum because of this? Or are you just looking for an easy opportunity to discredit me?
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 01 2012 11:35 GMT
#159
That's dumb.

No, what I mean is that for some reason it's still a viable strategy for mafia on TL to shoot good townies because the derp townies will ignore what the good townies had to say once the good townies are dead, and pursue their own bad ideas. What I am suggesting for this game is that whenever a townie, especially a recognizable good town player like myself or sandroba, flips, people go back and re-read their suspicions and concerns.

Mafia needs to not be able to get away with just killing the people who happen to be right, and then relying on the rest just being wrong and derping their way to a loss.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 01 2012 11:38 GMT
#160
On March 01 2012 20:34 Adam4167 wrote:
I know you're just going to reiterate what you already said 'please reread what i said and consider that i may have been right'

But doesn't that just go without saying? Isn't that what everyone does when a townie flips? consider that they may have been right


That's what should happen, not what usually actually happens. Remember xlviii where syllogism the vigilante flipped and it was basically certain that he tried to shoot annul (the mafia who claimed taking a hit) during the night. I read syllo's posts and saw that he was most likely correct about annul, however rest of town simply ignored the case, and syllo wasn't alive to help me push it.

Honestly, the most help I got that game in support of my theory that syllo was right was from sandroba (the scum) who felt that he had to agree to me because disagreeing was so dumb that it'd give him away. Thankfully for mafia, the rest of town WERE THAT DUMB, and the game imploded.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 01 2012 12:57 GMT
#166
you see, until you start making sense rgTS, I don't value your opinions. If you actually think saying "listen to me and only me" has some indication of that player's alignment, your opinions don't matter.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 01 2012 14:10 GMT
#168
It's very, very, very rare that a town is lead by scum. Almost always the most vocal people are going to be town. I can't remember the last time I played in a game that was being actively bossed around by scum. I guess wherebugsgo is like the one example of someone who really can fuck with towns.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 01 2012 15:12 GMT
#169
Sandroba did you roll scum or are you just doing your bored townie impression?
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 01 2012 15:20 GMT
#170
If you don't talk to me I'll lynch you, you know I can tell when you're scum.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 01 2012 16:10 GMT
#175
I don't have any strong feelings one way or the other.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 01 2012 16:11 GMT
#176
There is one confirmed townie in the game Sandroba, if you can find him I won't lynch you.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 01 2012 16:12 GMT
#177
I think that analysis is surprisingly bad deconduo. Why is it so bad? Can you explain that to me?
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 01 2012 16:14 GMT
#180
There is nothing wrong with making a list, you guys are insane.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 01 2012 16:15 GMT
#181
On March 02 2012 01:14 deconduo wrote:
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On March 02 2012 01:12 Palmar wrote:
I think that analysis is surprisingly bad deconduo. Why is it so bad? Can you explain that to me?


Dunno I'm going through filters so I might be missing the order in which things were posted. I'm just reading the game for the first time now.


So you agree it's bad?
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 01 2012 16:15 GMT
#183
On March 02 2012 01:15 sandroba wrote:
It doesn't matter if LaL is stupid or not we will talk about it when/if it becomes a problem. I don't mind any of the people that start talking about it because I realize we have to start at something and it's as good as any starting subject but that's it. I agree that the list is pointless but, I wouldn't touch on probulous right now as he is posting a lot and trying to get things moving.


Less posting, more proving you're town by finding the one confirmed townie in the game. (pro-tip: it's not me)
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 01 2012 16:18 GMT
#186
well, there's one guy in the thread who's almost certainly town. If you can't find him you're scum.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 01 2012 16:21 GMT
#187
On March 02 2012 01:18 deconduo wrote:
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On March 02 2012 01:14 Palmar wrote:
There is nothing wrong with making a list, you guys are insane.


Do you want me to show you how often scum make pointless lists in games? Its the most obvious filler you can make, because it a massive important looking post that adds absolutely nothing to the game.

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On March 02 2012 01:15 Palmar wrote:
On March 02 2012 01:14 deconduo wrote:
On March 02 2012 01:12 Palmar wrote:
I think that analysis is surprisingly bad deconduo. Why is it so bad? Can you explain that to me?


Dunno I'm going through filters so I might be missing the order in which things were posted. I'm just reading the game for the first time now.


So you agree it's bad?


No, I have no idea why YOU think its bad.


Yeah, please show me examples of scum making fluffy lists.

And I think it's bad because none of the things you mentioned say anything about the alignment of the players in question. It doesn't mean they're town, it just means that your analysis is invalid. For example, you're being massively dumb and saying LAL is stupid when it isn't (I'm not going to argue this, I'm right). However that tells me very little about your alignment.

While the posts you quoted from both probulous and misder do reflect something about them, what you pointed out certainly isn't it.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 01 2012 16:24 GMT
#189
lol, you so scum.

Please post more so I can prove it to the rest of the thread.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 01 2012 16:30 GMT
#191
Sharing town reads isn't bad, it's just something some scum invented at some point in order to not have to call either their teammates or townies town. One incriminates them when either flips, and the other is bad because it limits their options.

I think it's very likely rgTS is town from his posting so far in the thread. It's not unreasonable that you didn't find him because you're not looking for it in the same way I am, we are different people after all. The problem is the reasoning you gave for not looking for or sharing your town reads.

##Vote Sandroba
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 02 2012 09:41 GMT
#246
I still think we should be lynching sandroba.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 02 2012 09:41 GMT
#247
i don't think deconduo is scum, or well, his response to me calling him terrible seemed kinda towny
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 02 2012 09:52 GMT
#248
Paperscraps looks towny, so does rgTS. I'm not really sure about teacup, but there's nothing super scummy in his posting so far.

I refuse to analyse jackal58, cause I never get it right. misder seems towny i think. Adam not so much, he could be scummer. I'm not quite sure about probulous, something is off about his play I think, but I can't exactly tell if it's because he's scum. Bluelightz is impossible to read, but assuming the obvious he's town.

I actually think snarfs looks pretty towny from his sk asking post, it just seemed genuine enough not to be fabricated to make us think he's clueless town, in addition I don't think scum often does that.

No clue about the rest really. Toast and Pandain and anyone else I might be forgetting, but if I forget you it's because your content has been worthless so far. So take it as an insult please.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 02 2012 09:53 GMT
#249
I think it's very likely we have an SK, due to the number of players in the game.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 02 2012 11:07 GMT
#251
That's an incorrect conclusion to draw from my wording, an alternative scenario is that you're simply town and playing in a different way than I expected. That would certainly make something off about your play, without making you either sk or scum.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 02 2012 23:42 GMT
#290
Cause I want to lynch sandroba you dumbass. Don't be thick.

The case on sandroba isn't weak at all. It's based on the simple fact that his reads are off, he's disagreeing with me for the incorrect reasons and not putting any time into the game at all. I'll list it up:

1. Sandroba refused to try and point out a random townie in the thread because "he doesn't want to give away townreads". Now I know this is a common misconception, but sandroba is not dumb enough to fall for it like all the newbies. Giving away town reads is fine because if you force mafia to do it, they have to either call their scum mates town, or double back later in the game.

2. Sandroba's reasons for voting people in this game seem to not be the ones I'd expect him to use. he has basically attacked two people who in my opinion had at the time done very little that reveals much about their alignment in the thread.

3. Sandroba has put almost no effort into figuring out my alignment this game. While as town it would be a very obvious thing to do for him to put in a lot of effort into seeing if I'm scum, both because my scum play tends to be quite obvious and also because he knows that as a team we could probably smash the game.

I conclude, he must be scum.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 03 2012 01:01 GMT
#297
this isn't a pure meta case. Of course it's influenced by the fact that I give sandroba less leeway then the normal newbie, but anyone posting the way he is would be wrong and scummy, it's just less likely he's dumb than the normal townie.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 03 2012 01:08 GMT
#301
Can we get some people to switch to sandroba please, misder is very unlikely to flip scum.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 03 2012 01:27 GMT
#310
you Adam4167

also, if I'm scum you lynch me, vet or not it's bad logic to let vets get away with shit.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 03 2012 01:42 GMT
#313
I can only lynch one person today, and I think sandroba has a much higher chance of flipping scum than you. Hell, he isn't even trying to deflect the lynch off of him.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 03 2012 18:14 GMT
#332
misder as far from useless, anyone voting him is not reading the thread, stupid, or scum.

Deconduo, you decided to use an easy fucking bullshit explanation to vote a townie, even after I told you that it was bullshit, and I later explained that I thought he was town. I take that as an insult. You're literally calling me bad at mafia by straight up refusing to listen to me.

I will make sure you die this game.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 03 2012 19:41 GMT
#335
are you dumb? do you need obvious information spoonfed to you?
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 03 2012 19:45 GMT
#336
and everyone should listen to me, we'd have one less townie dead if people did
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 03 2012 22:05 GMT
#339
it was obviously wrong, as has been proven.

And yes, I'll fully admit I have no idea how to make people listen to me.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 04 2012 09:32 GMT
#355
I don't actually care what AKCT claims.

##Vote A killer cuppa tea
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 04 2012 11:33 GMT
#359
There is no sensible reason to disbelieve pandain's claim, so AKCT is going to have to claim. Now, he can't really claim medic because the chances of scum double stacking rgTS on night 1 seem very slim.

If he claims vig we lynch him, because that shot was beyond stupid.

so what's left are the tracker and the watcher. I just don't think we have multiple of those in such a small setup. He can't exactly claim watcher either because that way he'd know who visited rgTS, so I guess he's going to counterclaim tracker or something? Or try to make us believe we have more than one?

For this reason I am going to disbelieve any claim he claims. The only reasonable claim for him from a balance/viability standpoint i claiming watcher and point to a random townie and getting that player lynched, but in this case we lynch him anyway, and before we lynch the guy he points a finger at.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 05 2012 09:57 GMT
#414
yeah I'm still fine with killing sandroba.

Pandain is dumb, but he's probably town. Doesn't say anything about AKCT's alignment really. But hey who cares.

##Vote Sandroba
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 05 2012 15:03 GMT
#416
let's kill sandroba people, it's the right thing to do.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 05 2012 15:37 GMT
#419
how the fuck would I know jackal?

What I'm pretty certain of is that he's not town.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 05 2012 17:59 GMT
#423
That's a dumb vote Toast. While Pandain's gambit was hilariously bad, I'd still bet on this being a town-pandain idea rather than scum Pandain.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 05 2012 19:26 GMT
#425
can we kill sandroba today? I don't mind then killing pandain later for bad.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 06 2012 09:16 GMT
#498
No let's lynch Deconduo for being an asshole to me when I'm right and he's wrong.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 06 2012 12:23 GMT
#504
Adam, why did you disagree with me? Do you think I'm dumb?
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 06 2012 14:08 GMT
#506
do you think I'm scum now?
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 06 2012 14:25 GMT
#509
On March 06 2012 23:12 Jackal58 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2012 23:08 Palmar wrote:
do you think I'm scum now?

I think you're 3rd party.


Of course you do!
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 07 2012 00:05 GMT
#526
I am a soft kitty
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 07 2012 00:07 GMT
#528
sometimes I just wanna cuddle
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 07 2012 00:14 GMT
#531
lol
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 13 2012 09:47 GMT
#948
I told you to lynch deconduo, why didn't you listen?
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 13 2012 11:28 GMT
#952
On March 13 2012 20:05 Probulous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2012 18:47 Palmar wrote:
I told you to lynch deconduo, why didn't you listen?

Because when I asked if you sure you never responded. I could only assume you had changed your mind.


I love how I just couldn't figure out what was wrong with your play. I said it like 2-3 times.
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