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On March 12 2012 10:52 Snarfs wrote:
One thing I'm curious about is this: TheToast tunneled Pandain the entire game until he flipped town. It doesn't seem like something scum would do because it immediately casts them in suspicion when that person flips.
How often does scum do that?
I kind of did the opposite when I was scum in my last game but with the same intention. I was a weird role but hear me out. The advantage of tunneling a known townie is that they are unlikely to actually get lynched. So you can place your vote without having to explain it. Then when they do flip you react the same as a townie would. Remember if your reads are wrong that does not mean you are scum, townies are wrong too. I was wrong about Adam for example. The point is why you voted for that person.
My biggest issue with Toast's Day 1 Pandain vote is that it was 10 minute before the deadline and he knew that Misder was going to be lynched if his vote stayed there. He says others could have been swayed but no-one was around. Even so he never changed. He says he believed Misder to be town and sandroba to be SK but he didn't vote for sandroba even though that would have ensured that Misder lived and sandroba died. He acknowledges that it is better to kill a SK than town but hasn't accepted that his decision directly lead to a townie being lynched. The votes were tied and he could have chosen to kill the SK (in his mind) but instead he voted elsewhere. His reasoning is bad, that is why I find it scummy.
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Bitter tears and rage are starting to swell inside me. AKCT better vote or he better not be town cause otherwise my face is going to hurt from the indentation it will make on my keyboard. This game has been fun but if we lose because someone actually got their head smashed in I am going to lose my sanity.
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FUCK YOU BASTARDS!!!!!
Bluelightz come on baby save me now
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SNARFS they just outed themselves, change quick!!!
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GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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You assholes 
We played, game over guys. One time, just one time I would like to win and I got so close 
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BLUELIGHTZ I AM GONNA KILL YOU!!!!
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Ok not really but man you hurt me so bad
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Wiggles why did this game go on for so long? Surely town could not win once AKCT didn't vote. It would only be fair for him to be modkilled at this stage of the game putting town at 2-2 with no vig overnight.
Anyway, I have a bigger post coming up.
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You're an asshole.
I don't care if that is strategy, it is belittling and petty and doesn't belong in any game I wish to play in.
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I got warned for absent mindedly poking at you out of the game, you got warned for shitting on players. So no they are not the same. It give me the shits when players degrade others but hey it is all part of your stategy, whatever man.
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My Play
All I wanted was a vanilla role but instead I got Serial Killer. This role is hard, like really hard. Given that I had a veteran life I would play the game as if I am town. I wanted to be the most townie town there ever was so that mafia would not shoot me and would have trouble getting me lynched. The downside to this was it made me obvious to them in the end game. I think my choice of shots were alright.
Night Hits- The sandroba shot night 1 was on a scum so I am happy with that.
- I wanted to shoot Palmar night 2 because he was suspicious of me and I suspected that scum would shoot him given his outing of sandroba. I also thought the medic might be on him so they would need a doublestack. He was the one obvious town who could take me down and given the numbers I had to shoot him.
- I shot Paperscraps night 3 to put suspicion on those pushing him as a SK, especially Pandain. But then mafia shot him and the plan kind of fell apart. In hindsight I probably should have kept him and shot Bluelightz because he would probably have voted with me.
My biggest mistake was the Adam lynch but I was convinced he was scum. It also didn’t hurt that he was the only one pushing for me to die so his death ensured my survival (until Bluelightz came along). I survived to the final lynch which is the longest in any game I have played and had a real shot at winning so I give myself 7/10
Town MVP
Palmar gets this award as he correctly identified sandroba day 1 and noted me as suspicious. If he lived longer Adam would probably have been able to push for my lynch. He also stated that he would see decon die but never confirmed that when I asked him.
Special shout outs to Snarfs for his first game. He was town to me from day one and the only ones who called him scum were mafia. I would gladly have you on my team.
Scum MVP
Deconduo, looking back on this game you managed to lurk just enough to avoid suspicion. I had you labelled as town more from a numbers thing than anything you actually did which is perfect for scum. I was never going to lynch you over Toast so that makes you my scum MVP.
The Rest of You Lot
- Adam4167- We’ve had our chat and come to an agreement. I expected too much from you and it burnt me. My only advice would be that if you are going to post, post something that is relevant and clear.
- Misder – You trolled this game so there isn’t much to say. If you don’t want to play, don’t sign up.
- A Killer Cuppa Tea – Bad luck on the head bash. There’s not much else to say as you weren’t here in the early game. Day 1 sure but you disappeared after that.
- Pandain – You’re a crazy bastard and I wasn’t sure of your alignment until you flipped. In hindsight you were right about Toast and AKCT. Thanks for the game.
- Sandroba – You died, thanks for lurking
- RG – The only thing that was clear from your play was that you weren’t the SK or a Vig. Given you died night 1 that is a job well done
- Jackal – You hid, you died.
- Paperscraps – You were a hard read initially but once I got your claim figured out I was pretty sure you were town. I guess next time claim before the deadline
Bluelightz
I had a whole long section on you and how you fucked up this game for me but in the end I want to ask you one question.
Do you want to improve?
I won't be playing a game that you are in. You clearly don't care about town winning and that means they generally lose when you are on their team.
Toast 
Special shout out to Mattchew who was awesome as a cohost. Even with me whining about vote counts he muscled up and helped out.
Mr Wiggles thank you for the game, you were fair and even handed with my warning and I respect that.
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On March 13 2012 12:40 Snarfs wrote:Time to point out a nice little mod error! Jackal was listed as "shot on night 2" for the better part of a few days as opposed to the traditional "killed on night 2" while Paperscraps claimed that his vig role came with a high-calibre rifle... But that wasn't why my mind changed so radically on Paper. I saved Palmar night 2 and knew there were two KP on him. The vig claim was the only thing that made sense. I tried to make it as obvious that I was defending Paper as I dared without giving myself away but clearly I didn't do a good enough job .
I was pretty sure you were blue for most of the game. You played really really well for your first game, despite what others say. I would gladly have you on my team (scum or town). Glad to know I was right about the Palmar save. Thanks for playing and please sign up for another.
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Mr Wiggles, is there any reason for the game not ending with my lynch?
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On March 13 2012 12:51 Mr. Wiggles wrote:I decided to give A Killer Cuppa Tea another 24 hours to show up, and didn't like the idea of a close game being decided by a modkill, so I let the night play out. The funny think is, AKCT just PMed me 2 minutes ago.
You do realise that would have been incredibly unfair?
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EPT
