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gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
February 27 2012 23:26 GMT
#360
Also I would prefer if we not refer to four face's insane gameplay as "gumshoe meta", just a polite request

and I also propose that as of now we all say at the end of an accusation, "I dont know, lynch me."
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gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
February 27 2012 23:29 GMT
#362
On February 28 2012 08:26 Janaan wrote:
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On February 28 2012 07:55 Alderan wrote:

Janaan where would you place your vote if deadline was in 5 minutes?


Right now, I'd say it has to be between Chocolate and igabod.
Igabod since he's lurking heavily and it'd send a message not to lurk.

Chocolate, of all the people with cases against them seems the most scummy to me, and I can't quite put my finger on why exactly. But it doesn't make him scum. I think DYH makes a good point about how it's coming together a little too nicely when I can see all of Chocolate's posts from a town perspective.

Unless something else comes up, I think I'll be sticking with ##Vote: igabod




Janaan I ask that you consider voting for ghost,

I really don't like how drastically sloosh's style has shifted, even alderaan who seems like he's playing a convincing town hasn't changed that much in terms of tone from last game when he was scum, sloosh sounds like a different person and I would like to put pressure on him by attacking his potential proxy, ghost.
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gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
February 27 2012 23:31 GMT
#364
On February 28 2012 08:28 Steveling wrote:
Ye, I asked for replacement.


Why is that steveling? Don't feel like playing scum again? Oh and if you don't mind could you drop all your reads by the door on your way out ?
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gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
February 27 2012 23:31 GMT
#365
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On February 28 2012 08:29 Alderan wrote:
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On February 28 2012 08:04 DoYouHas wrote:
Anybody else think that this bandwagon is forming a little quickly on Chocolate? It wouldn't be so odd to me, but when I see a post like NightFury's which attacks Chocolate with points that are not very conclusive I start thinking that people are talking themselves into a Chocolate lynch instead of being objectively convinced. If you thought that he was our best lynch candidate because you found a few of thing things he said fishy and did not like his early lurking/middle of the road posts, that is one thing. But when you invent fairly invalid points to convince us that you aren't just sheeping the vote, it is very bad for town.

Right now I am very comfortable with my igabod vote. With how the conversation is being directed towards either a ghost lynch or a Chocolate lynch, I think igabod has a better chance of flipping scum than either of them.


I almost made literally the exact same post. The Chocolate thing is coming along too easily, I would have expected at least a case made against someone else. That in combination with his mildly sufficient answers have me reconsidering my vote.

I would love for a case to come a long that was better, which is why I was asking everyone to come up with an opinion?

I think Steveling is acting very suspiciously. I've found that after playing as scum, town is much more relaxing and less time consuming. I find it strange that he finds it the opposite.



beat you to it read me post.
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gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
February 27 2012 23:32 GMT
#367
will be back, gotta walk the dog.
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gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
February 28 2012 00:17 GMT
#384
On February 28 2012 08:51 Janaan wrote:
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On February 28 2012 08:29 gumshoe wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On February 28 2012 08:26 Janaan wrote:
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On February 28 2012 07:55 Alderan wrote:

Janaan where would you place your vote if deadline was in 5 minutes?


Right now, I'd say it has to be between Chocolate and igabod.
Igabod since he's lurking heavily and it'd send a message not to lurk.

Chocolate, of all the people with cases against them seems the most scummy to me, and I can't quite put my finger on why exactly. But it doesn't make him scum. I think DYH makes a good point about how it's coming together a little too nicely when I can see all of Chocolate's posts from a town perspective.

Unless something else comes up, I think I'll be sticking with ##Vote: igabod




Janaan I ask that you consider voting for ghost,

I really don't like how drastically sloosh's style has shifted, even alderaan who seems like he's playing a convincing town hasn't changed that much in terms of tone from last game when he was scum, sloosh sounds like a different person and I would like to put pressure on him by attacking his potential proxy, ghost.

The problem that I have with this is that if SlOosh and Ghost were both scum, I doubt that SlOosh would be the first to call Ghost out. Maybe it's a bit WIFOM to say that, but all it did was bring more scrutiny to Ghost on Day 1, which is something that no scum team would want to inflict to themselves.

I do agree with SlOosh's change in posting style, though. It's a pretty big change from his previous two games. I can understand him wanting to be a bit less aggressive this game, but it does seem a bit out of character.


I was the first to pressure ghost and then alderaan put some pressure on ghost, if sloosh is scum I think he would've seen the righting on the wall and tried to address the issues ghost had caused by putting a bit of pressure on him, then ghost posts his defence and sloosh just drops his case on him and goes with the other obvious vote of chocolate, suddenly everyones dropped their suspicion of ghost, Sloosh is a clever player, its not impossible that he started the conflict so that he could control it.

All I ask is that we all vote for ghost an already suspicious suspect, to get a feel for what Sloosh is up to, I am not accusing him right now I would just like some answers.

That said I really don't like chocolates posting right now -_- he strikes me as too aggressive. Am open to voting for him if a ghost lynch is unobtainable.
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gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
February 28 2012 00:19 GMT
#385
On February 28 2012 09:03 Chocolate wrote:
I would encourage you to vote on steveling, if igabod doesn't post in the next hour I'll change my vote to Steve.


Chocolate what the smuch do you think of ghost?
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gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
February 28 2012 00:29 GMT
#387
On February 28 2012 09:21 Chocolate wrote:
I had to haul ass to prevent myself from getting banned. I want to be aggressive, I played really passive last game and got lynched for it(I was mafia in that game though). I almost got lynched for it again this game (although this one is also due to inconsistencies). I feel like you're trying to get me to stop posting. Why is that? Do you really think I'm being too aggressive or do you disagree with my choices on who to lynch?


I think your in a bad spot, and you need to start offering new possibilities or provide some evidence we haven't heard yet, the case against steven is threadbare at the moment, advocating his lynch makes you sound desperate to get the pressure of you and onto someone who isn't that obvious. Come back with something substantial because this game isn't about just not getting lynched, its about being able to convince town what the right decision is, and right now I see no reason to respect your opinion as much as I would some one else's, so you need to start making some headway for town.

Now what do you think of ghost? I'm not going to ask you again -_-
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gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
February 28 2012 00:32 GMT
#390
+ Show Spoiler +
On February 28 2012 09:30 Chocolate wrote:
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On February 28 2012 09:19 gumshoe wrote:
On February 28 2012 09:03 Chocolate wrote:
I would encourage you to vote on steveling, if igabod doesn't post in the next hour I'll change my vote to Steve.


Chocolate what the smuch do you think of ghost?

I agree with some of his views on lurkers, i.e. if we can't find anyone scummy we should lynch them. However, I disagree with
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If we can't find scum, we should instead lynch people who are not useful to the town. Lurkers fit the second criteria perfectly.
because we shouldn't kill them for not being useful, but for possibly being hiding scum.

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FourFace, I have no idea what game you're playing here. Your rants about insanity are baffling to me even on repeat readings. The only thing worse than scum in a game are townies that waste other peoples time while they are looking for scum. Instead, we have to identify and ignore your madness, which is insanely counter productive. As far as your trap, still don't know what you're going for there. Once the game starts, people have a responsibility to actually be playing. If they can't make it, they tell the GM and he replaces them; not a big deal.

My head still hurts.

Agree

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As I said before, I am happy to lynch lurkers...
--UNLESS--
...there are scum. Oh boy, are there scum in this thread. I'm not down with an Igabod lynch (at the moment. Igabod, post more.) simply because there are scummier targets.

On February 28 2012 06:37 Chocolate wrote:
Right now I'm looking at igabod because he has almost no posts, and because I'm not getting strong reads on anybody else at the moment. I'm looking at some of the people who seemed to be bandwagoning/sheeping on to me, but I do realize that you all want a lynch to gain info, and I may represent the best case to you.


Tells us not to jump on the bandwagon.
Immediately jumps on the bandwagon.

Also, he's posted very little content up til now. His post history is "let's lynch lurkers, let's not lynch lurkers, let's lynch lurkers who don't post in the next hour, let's lynch phagga for lurking, sorry for jumping on the FourFace bandwagon, let's lynch Igabod." Chocolate's Filter

And now, his most recent post is "Alderan used an OMGUS sort of, FourFace is fishy, and here's another lurker." Not impressed.

Scummy lurker >> regular lurker.

##vote chocolate

Just as an aside, did you know that out of the 14 people playing this game, only 4 of them agreed to a no-lynch on day 1?

Kinda hypocritical, he "Tells us not to jump on the bandwagon. Immediately jumps on the bandwagon."
The bolded part isn't entirely true, voting for someone that early and w/o evidence does not equate to lynching. Also criticizes me for wanting to lynch igabod, but he is happy to lynch lurkers. Dismisses my own cases.

If push comes to shove I would vote for him to avoid my own lynch or a no-lynch, but if I had my druthers I would lynch someone else.



Thank you very much.
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gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
February 28 2012 00:32 GMT
#391
On February 28 2012 09:31 k2hd wrote:
Changing vote to igabod for reasons stated in my Previous post.


iga's getting modkilled -_- if he pops up before vote then we can lynch him, please consider someone else.
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gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
February 28 2012 00:38 GMT
#393
On February 28 2012 09:36 Alderan wrote:
As for FF's edited posts... the first one is actually not exactly what the original post was, but it get's the point across. He said some really weird convoluted stuff that if were true would be grounds for a ban.

I saved reporting the second post to you guys for obvious reasons, didn't want the scum to see it before it was time. No reason to suspect it's true in all honesty. I don't even know what to think about it.

It's getting about that time. Odds are good that either both Steveling and igabod will be replaced, or just Steveling will be replaced as he asked first, and igabod will be modkilled.

The question now is, do we want to go for an additional lynch or not?



I do, read my joint case on ghost and sloosh.
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gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
February 28 2012 00:47 GMT
#397
so were no lynching? Do I have to vote for CHOCOLATE RAIN or something? Cause I feel like he getting bussed.
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gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
February 28 2012 02:16 GMT
#439
On February 28 2012 10:26 Alderan wrote:
Is gum around? It's going to take mine and his votes as it stands now to get the majority.


I'm here watcha need boss.
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gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
February 28 2012 02:19 GMT
#442
no way in hell if we can afford it
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gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
February 28 2012 02:20 GMT
#444
On February 28 2012 10:13 ghost_403 wrote:
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On February 28 2012 10:04 DoYouHas wrote:
On February 28 2012 09:56 phagga wrote:
On February 28 2012 09:47 DoYouHas wrote:
We don't know igabod is getting modkilled. There is every chance that he will be replaced. Because of this I still think that he is our best lynch option.

This argumentation is absolutely stupid. If igabod is getting replaced, then he was not playing the game at all. Therefore him lurking does not say anything at all about his alignement. He might even be a blue for all we know, and some real life matter keep him from playing.

This is exactly the reason why we should NOT just lynch any lurker. So as long as igabod is not casting a vote, we should not try to lynch him.


It is too late to swing a vote towards someone not Ghost/Chocolate/igabod or maybe Steve. I do not believe that Ghost/Chocolate should be lynched today. Yes, it is possible that igabod is not scum, we don't know. The reason we lynch igabod now is so that we don't go into day2 with a person we have absolutely no information on, which is not a situation I want to be in. That makes him a better lynch target than Chocolate or Ghost to me.


I completely disagree with you there. The entirety of the game has built up to this moment. Lynching either of us will give the town a plethora of information. You can look back and see who pushed for what lynch, who supported them, who jumped on board, who jumped off... quite frankly, lynching someone other than the two of us is wasteful.

Lynching a non-posting lurker at this point tells you about them. Lynching either me or Chocolate tells you about everyone in the town.


Just wanna say I really appreciate you saying this, I will take my vote off you.

Unvote: Ghost(will do it in the thread)
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gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
February 28 2012 02:22 GMT
#446
I like what ghost said about him and chocolate, we lynch igo meh, we lynch one of them we can back track and look at the history of pressure, willing to lean chocolate right now because ghost actually brought that to attention which I really appreciate.
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gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
February 28 2012 02:22 GMT
#447
On February 28 2012 11:20 JekyllAndHyde wrote:
Before I forget:

##Unvote: Chocolate

I'll vote for someone not likely to be lynched, that way there can't be a fast vote-swing towards him:

##Vote:DoYouHas


da fuck? Why?
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gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
February 28 2012 02:27 GMT
#451
god I hate no lynches ) : like unless its analytically the right move(as was the case last game when we had a potential inactive townie) I feel like were just depriving ourselves of information

If chocolate flips green(which he probably will considering it looks like he's getting bussed, not gonna lie about that) i'll take responsibility.
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gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
February 28 2012 02:29 GMT
#452
On February 28 2012 11:26 Chocolate wrote:
You do realize that is basically a vote swing, which you state is bad? Stand by your words. If I get lynched we will get good info on alderan, gum, dyh, sloosh, Phagga, and night.


Damm you chocolate why are making things so difficult P_P
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gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
February 28 2012 02:33 GMT
#455
On February 28 2012 11:30 DoYouHas wrote:
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On February 28 2012 11:08 Alderan wrote:
DoYouHas believes that you are both town so he's not going to buy it.

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On February 28 2012 10:57 DoYouHas wrote:
I have null reads for both of you atm. I am not willing to vote you day 1 but you had better believe I will be scrutinizing both of you.


Don't misrepresent me. I simply think that you cannot base the alignment of ghost based on the flip of Chocolate, or vice versa.

Gum, a no-lynch isn't the end of the world, we are working with an incomplete set of information. Tomorrow the inactive situation will be settled and we can go from there. Lynching for information is bad.

Welcome to the game Test, post lots.


Yarg, I hate not lynching but you might be right, last game lynching you turned out to not at all be worth it, my vote stays on choc though, i'll leave it to every one else to decide if we want a lynch.
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