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DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
February 28 2012 20:27 GMT
#1736
If the 3 of us vote Dirkzor, he will get lynched
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
February 28 2012 20:29 GMT
#1740
On February 29 2012 05:28 Dirkzor wrote:
WBG: okay. If you say so. *grumbling about reading comprehensions and stupid people*

Progression of Dirkzor's argument for why DrH is scum

1. DrH has never made cases or pushed
2. DrH made cases and pushed but didn't push a lynch
3. DrH has no town or scum agenda
4. DrH hasn't made cases in the last 8 hours
5. DrH is misrepresenting me by saying I said he never made any cases or pushed!

RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
February 28 2012 20:29 GMT
#1741
On February 29 2012 05:28 wherebugsgo wrote:
Dr H, problem is we don't even know if there is a vig or not.

Realistically it's just easier to kill prplhz now.

my role implies the existence of town or third party KP
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
February 28 2012 20:31 GMT
#1744
On February 28 2012 19:14 Dirkzor wrote:
While I was sleeping DrH have accomplished to add 2-3 more page to his filter without saying anything. He have called 6+ player scummy but made no cases or really pushed for their lynch. He called out toad for cluttering up the thread but continued to do so himself the same way he have done earlier.

##Vote DrH


I already acknowledge you made cases yesterday. No one is saying you havent. I'm saying that you haven't done anything the last 8 hour. Even if you have made a lot of posts.


Could ANYTHING BE MORE FLIMSY AND STUPID then calling someone scum based on their actions over 8 hours jesus and this is Dirk's #1 scumread
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
February 28 2012 20:32 GMT
#1745
On February 29 2012 05:31 wherebugsgo wrote:
I have no clue how Dirkzor plays but honestly most of the newer players look the sane to me

I.E. BC's reference to Ace's jubjub quote is 100% what I think of them

he's going after me because i didn't make a case during the 8 hours he paid attention to me when i was pressuring and pushin toadesstern

he isn't jubjubing

he also masterminded the BH lynch
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
February 28 2012 20:36 GMT
#1747
On February 29 2012 05:35 wherebugsgo wrote:
Syllo had KP. He's dead.

I dunno if there's adequate reason to assume that anyone else is a vig.

I forgot that. I'm going to assume there is a second vig or SK. I can ask for vigs to hit people and they either do or don't or don't exist, no harm no foul
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
February 28 2012 20:41 GMT
#1751
No, I didn't claim I pushed BH iirc, if I did that was incorrect
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
February 28 2012 21:36 GMT
#1774
On February 29 2012 06:16 Dirkzor wrote:
So since I was the original mastermind (thx DrH) behind that I'm scum?

least scummy thing about you
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
February 28 2012 22:03 GMT
#1784
god this is frustrating
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
February 28 2012 22:12 GMT
#1791
Vig's please kill BC and Dirkzor
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
February 28 2012 22:30 GMT
#1797
On February 29 2012 07:13 Dirkzor wrote:
Okay now you're just sprouting non-sense. Why waste a Vig on me... you almost got WBG convinced to lynch me today... Why not just lynch me tomorrow..

Vigs: Shoot DrH.

Save time, shoot you tonight and lynch BC tomorrow
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
February 28 2012 22:30 GMT
#1799
On February 29 2012 07:14 Tyrran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 29 2012 07:12 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Vig's please kill BC and Dirkzor


Not forgetting RoL

I think RoL is town
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
February 28 2012 23:37 GMT
#1827
On February 29 2012 08:07 Kurumi wrote:
See Ya later. Maybe. If RoL really wanted to play he'd be just all over this thread by now. But he is not. He has done his thing and his back afk.
And Dr.H is not the role he claimed.
Vig, thanks for not claiming. You're a bro. Or just afk.


Thanks for allt hat proof

no shit it's good that the vig didn't claim, i never ever asked the vig to claim

that's part of the reason i think dirkzor is scum
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
February 28 2012 23:42 GMT
#1830
can you point out when i did that
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
February 29 2012 19:23 GMT
#1854
@Kurumi
You didn't mention anything about me lying about my role other than some WIFOM thing that scum wouldn't hit Jackal? That's BS. As far as the mason role I'm not sure how it worked with WBG but last night I got a "phonecall" and a link to a quicktopic. Nobody posted in the quicktopic. I believe that I was masoned that night with syllogism or jackal who died and were thus unable to respond in the QT. If it was a recruiter mason I would be able to talk to that mason or to WBG who had already been recruited. Palmar posted in the QT as well and there are only 2 unique views meaning nobody even looked at it. I think this implies there is a role that instead chooses 2 people (maybe you cant choose yourself) and allows them to then communicate privately. Phone Operator? Something like that.

I was wrong about my role, I can't find out what team hit syllogism until the beginning of the next day. I misinterpreted "cycle" to mean once each day and night but cycle I guess is day and night together. Your reads are pretty off Kurumi and I'd like to see you actually. support them. I'll check the strangest kill, it isn't too far to assume Syllo was hit by scum. Syllo's case on BC, if BC is scum, makes him a good hit and I know syllo is dangerous with his reads later in the game. Scum might have wanted to get him out of the way either way but because he was expressing disinterest in playing in the game by day 2 I imagine his Day 1 reads were pretty important in selecting him as a hit.

I'll be rereading BC's filter because until I do the reading it's just a hunch but essentially I'm feeling that BC/Dirkzor have been the source of each days mislynch, I have been conned into second guessing myself each day this is the kind of play I did in Insane Mafia where my initial reads were 4/6 of the mafia team on Day 1 and I ended up hitting nothing.

I believe that the BH wagon on Day 1 was meant to keep the BC lynch from gaining enough steam to lynch him. Blazinghand and Prplhz were respectively the worst players in this game and very easy to lynch. I got a much stronger scum read from prplhz than I did from BH personally, but nobody was voting on Toad or Dirk with me by the time the end of the cycle was close.

BC pressured and laid the ground work for the mislynches that other people took over. He isn't being very active and his posting style is reminding me of what little I remember of being scum with him in one of BrownBear's games where we achieved perfect victory over town.

I'm jumping back and forth on RoL and WBG being scum. I've agreed with a lot of what WBG has been saying recently, but I get an uncomfortable vibe from him. I really think his Day 1 play was pretty scummy and I know he's the kind of player to be a lone wolf on a scumteam and kinda go in opposition to the other players in the thread to keep a safe distance. RoL's saving vote is very suspect. He doesn't care about this game, he's even conceded that we should just kill him and he doesn't care. If he doesn't care about being killed why even vote to save yourself from a modkill? If he's scum he has way more incentive to help his team (especially if he is already doing so behind the scenes) than a townie who just "Gives up" would have. That strikes me as a bit strange. Hopefully we get a positive vig or DT read today.

I think Kurumi, BC, Dirkzor are scum. One of WBG/VE and somebody inactive seems likely to me. RoL has yet to jump on the kind of super pro-town/wishy washy stuff he usually does but his professed lack of interest and time seems genuine to me. Just the fact that he saved himself seems odd considering his attitude.
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
February 29 2012 19:44 GMT
#1857
On March 01 2012 04:38 Kurumi wrote:
Aren't You scared, DoctorHelvetica?

Great response, that answers all of my questions
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
February 29 2012 19:44 GMT
#1858
On March 01 2012 04:41 kitaman27 wrote:
DrH, why give RoL a free pass if he is voting 2 minutes before the deadline when it is impossible to switch to him? He had a full 48 hours to place his vote, yet chose to make it at the last moment possible to keep himself from harm. Your defense of him confuses me.

I agree bugs and BC should be looked into if RoL turns up dead.


That's exactly the thing I find to be most suspicious though
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
February 29 2012 19:48 GMT
#1859
Why don't you just answer my questions and respond reasonably instead of trying to get under my skin, that's how scum would deal with me anyway

Why do you think I'm lying about my role? Why are you spending time speculating on the setup instead of actually making cases on the people you say are scum? You're not doing anything except saying "these people are scum", so far you haven't provided any convincing reason for anyone to agree with your reads. If responding to being called scum or asking you to support your read is evidence of being really scared or is somehow scummy then I'd love to hear you explain why that is
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
February 29 2012 19:52 GMT
#1862
If he was intent on defending RedFF why did he switch and keep his vote there when there were 2 available counterwagons on both BC and BH? He wasn't really defending RedFF imo but just saying that RedFF's play fit into his meta as both town and scum and he was getting a null read for the time being. Considering it's Day 1 that doesn't seem terrible in and of itself, but I definitely caught on to the same things in my case against him on Day 2. He also did a terrible job of pressuring me at the end of the day and was very antagonistic about it, dropped the case after I responded about twice without ever saying "i dont think youre scum anymore" or anything like that.

If I were the DT I'd check WBG or VisceraEyes tonight personally. I think one of them is definitely scum.
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
February 29 2012 19:54 GMT
#1863
On March 01 2012 04:50 Kurumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2012 04:48 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Why don't you just answer my questions and respond reasonably instead of trying to get under my skin, that's how scum would deal with me anyway

Why do you think I'm lying about my role? Why are you spending time speculating on the setup instead of actually making cases on the people you say are scum? You're not doing anything except saying "these people are scum", so far you haven't provided any convincing reason for anyone to agree with your reads. If responding to being called scum or asking you to support your read is evidence of being really scared or is somehow scummy then I'd love to hear you explain why that is

Because I don't believe scum would kill Jackal, thus I don't believe Your claim.

He could have been onto something in the day. They could have been trying to confuse us. They could have figured he's a dangerous player to keep around. They could have figured he would definitely not get medic protection. Syllo could have died to vig or third party, I don't know until tomorrow and I might not check his death.

This is as WIFOM as it can get really. If mafia has 2 KP they both got blocked last night so maybe they just wanted to go after someone who was likely to not get protected? Who knows?

I got the result I got. It is what it is. If I'm scum lying about it why not just say I got the vig result which is in line with what town was guessing anyway? That's WIFOM too but if you are willing to base your trust in a player based off of reasoning like that then why not.
RIP Aaliyah
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