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If you can explain or demonstrate how I have no opinion and am not pushing anyone that would be great, but it's just bullshit concocted by Dirkzor
On February 29 2012 03:55 Tyrran wrote:
OKay, back from work.
I dont understand people trying to devert the RoL pressure on me. There is no reason lynching me over RoL. I've been apparently useless, and RoL was diverting town from scum hunting. So i'm a better lynch? ONly if you are scum ( hi prplhz and VE).
@DocH : I understand your point about RoL, but you seems to think that he is scum. Why shouldnt we keep a scum alive and risk lynching a townie ? ( although I could go with a VE/Toad/prplhz lynch too, but i'm more confident on RoL for now).
@Kurumi : You say there is no new evidence. He was the second focus of the lynch yesterday, but no one that seems scummy voted for him. The player who pushed the most for his lynch was murdered by scum, and flipped blue. While scum could be playing with us, it seem clear to me that they saw a danger in Syllo, who was pushing for RoL.
I understand there are still more active player that are scum, but i dont really see why we should keep RoL alive.
Who do you lynch after RoL? I believe if you wanna lynch scummy lurkers that they have lower priority than active lurkers. Right now Toadesstern, Dirkzor, VE, and prplhz are all better than RoL for a lynch.
I don't understand this pushing thing tbh. Lots of people have not "pushed" their cases much such as BC who will make an analysis and some comments then pretty much abstain from posting for the rest of the day. That doesn't really seem scummy to me. I don't see why a townie would have to scream for a lynch after he makes his case especially if it is apparent a lot of people agree with him? I never had to push BC or RoL or RedFF or BH. Why would I "Push" a lynch that is winning, it makes no sense.
As far as Tyrran, he town read BH and kept voting for RoL, he isn't even remotely wishy washy. A townie having a few doubts about the lynch or mechanics in a closed setup? WOW it's fucking nothing. What do you mean he didn't push? When Day 2 started RoL was winning and then Toad kept going onto RoL, what do you have to do for the scumteam not to say "Look he didn't push!"
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Dirkzor: DrH has called like 7 people scum and never made any cases and never pushed any lynch!!!!
then
Dirkzor: Yeah you made a lot of cases yeah you're pushing toad but you're not pushing any lynch
then
Dirkzor: I never said you didn't make cases I said you didn't make any cases in the last 8 hours when you were out eating dinner and watching tv that's scummy
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Dirkzor: You don't have a town or scum agenda this makes you scum
seriously guys seriously
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Toadesstern and Dirkzor are scummier than VE
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Yes I care about who gets lynched you fucking idiot I want it to be Toadesstern or Dirkzor that's such an empty worthless criticism
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I find it funny that the first time prplhz has made sense or written very clear posts it has been to attack me, scumteam assembled much?
Could my agenda be any more clear? You're echoing Dirkzor without acknowledging him in thread too. My agenda is to lynch scum. I cased BC on Day 1 and lots of people voted for him. I didn't need to push it because my analysis did the work for me. BC responded and I voted instead for RedFF who was tied as a high scumread with BC. Come Day 2, BC did some alright posting and I laid down a case on my top scum targets. RoL gets instavotes, I don't need to push it because it's the number one bandwagon at the time. I'm not super active when things change around to BH who I only didn't vote for on Day 1 because I second guessed myself too much.
Day 3 I case Toadesstern and I'm pushing him. I've been saying he should be lynched. I've been saying he's scummier than VE or anyone when people as me. What do I have to say, exactly, to qualify as "pushing" something? Even if I did that you would find some roundabout retarded way to pretend I haven't done anything in this game.
Keep coming after me and making yourself more obvious though.
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On February 29 2012 04:43 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On February 29 2012 04:39 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Yes I care about who gets lynched you fucking idiot I want it to be Toadesstern or Dirkzor that's such an empty worthless criticism you still don't have anything about my case other than "the guy behaves like half the town is voting him" and yeah I wanted to clear out that "scumslip" misinterpretation as soon as possible because that's stuff that can produce mislynches. Other than that you've got nothing on me. Even if it were the case I don't post like that as mafia according to VE. Somthing else that makes you want to lynch me?
Yeah your inexplicable defense of VE, calling WBG scum based on moronic WIFOM logic, wavering confidence (coming in and saying yeah guys my reads are bad etc., then gaining confidence suddenly, losing it again when you are pressured), implicitly guilty post behavior
your post about BH is still scummy and while you explained why you would post it as town i don't believe you and still perceive it to be scummy, is that difficult to understand?
if dirkzor and prplhz keep making a joke out of themselves you might not die today
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On February 29 2012 04:46 Kurumi wrote:Show nested quote +On February 29 2012 04:44 Toadesstern wrote:
anyway we need to get some people on one guy unlike wbg said. I don't want mafia to manipulate this thing I'm fine with lynching prpl / wbg / RoL right now.
I disagree with Kurumi when he said we should lynch lurkers to our vigs because that clearly hasn't worked the last 2 days... Jackal is dead. Vigilante is doing his/her job. Unless You know more than us, of course.
the vig hit jackal? it hought so, can you confirm that?
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On February 29 2012 04:49 Kurumi wrote:Show nested quote +On February 29 2012 04:47 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On February 29 2012 04:46 Kurumi wrote:On February 29 2012 04:44 Toadesstern wrote:
anyway we need to get some people on one guy unlike wbg said. I don't want mafia to manipulate this thing I'm fine with lynching prpl / wbg / RoL right now.
I disagree with Kurumi when he said we should lynch lurkers to our vigs because that clearly hasn't worked the last 2 days... Jackal is dead. Vigilante is doing his/her job. Unless You know more than us, of course. the vig hit jackal? it hought so, can you confirm that? I can't confirm it. Could You just think a second about it? Why Mafia would lynch Jackal, who played really decent this game? And, I honestly believe Mafia has 1KP. Now, let's just decide on a lynch.
mafia did hit jackal tho
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forensics
mafia isn't stupid enough to claim vig hit so there's no reason for me to hide it
Anyway, if you can demonstrate how I don't seem to believe in my cases or how I don't care that'd be great. I've said over and over, why would I need to yell at people to lynch someone when they have consistently voted for my cases and how can you say I'm not pushing Toades now. Do I need to be angrier about it or something?
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On February 29 2012 05:06 Kurumi wrote:Show nested quote +On February 29 2012 05:04 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On February 29 2012 04:49 Kurumi wrote:On February 29 2012 04:47 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On February 29 2012 04:46 Kurumi wrote:On February 29 2012 04:44 Toadesstern wrote:
anyway we need to get some people on one guy unlike wbg said. I don't want mafia to manipulate this thing I'm fine with lynching prpl / wbg / RoL right now.
I disagree with Kurumi when he said we should lynch lurkers to our vigs because that clearly hasn't worked the last 2 days... Jackal is dead. Vigilante is doing his/her job. Unless You know more than us, of course. the vig hit jackal? it hought so, can you confirm that? I can't confirm it. Could You just think a second about it? Why Mafia would lynch Jackal, who played really decent this game? And, I honestly believe Mafia has 1KP. Now, let's just decide on a lynch. mafia did hit jackal tho Are You implying that Mafia: 1) Has 2 KP 2) Hit syllo who was in contact with wbg 3) Hit Jackal ?
i'm saying
1) mafia hit jackal
dunno who hit syllo i have to wait until tonight to see
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It's simple:
I know that mafia hit Jackal, I'm the Forensics Expert I was hoping to bait out a fake vig claim early in the day but no dice. Still, Dirkzor agreed that a vig claiming would be a good idea which is almost too stupid to be scumshit but I still think he's scum
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On February 29 2012 05:13 Tyrran wrote:
What is forensics ?
each cycle i can determine the alignment of the person who killed someone
so today I asked "jackal" and the result was mafia
it's not a role that can confirm me or anything like that, it's really not even worth discussing except maybe going over jackal's filter
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once each day once each night
yeah, if i'm scum i would know which faction hit which person anyway, it's the easiest role to fake
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my role isn't important today, i don't know what to think of kurumi's assumptions
kurumi have you actually made a case or analysis on any player you said should be lynched because you're saying we should lynch WBG but you don't seem to have a reason why
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yeah i already mentioned why it is impossible to confirm, that was never my intention anyway thanks
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On February 29 2012 05:22 Dirkzor wrote:Show nested quote +On February 29 2012 05:18 Tyrran wrote:
Okay, so mafia likely has 2 KP, because i dont think any player here is stupid enough to vig shot syllo. Also, with RoL getting modkilled, i moved my vote to prplhz. Stop with the RoL is getting modkilled. We don't know that. Stop saying that. DrH: Why did you bring up your role now a few hours before lynch? It's completely irrelevant and you're not going to get lynched anyway.
Because of what Kurumi was saying earlier
and I wasn't trying to confirm or defend myself or anything like that, it's not defensive unlike BH and RFF
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Dirkzor is my most confident read right now, then Toades followed by prplhz. If we lynch prplhz today will a vig please shoot dirk or toades tonight?
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On February 29 2012 05:25 wherebugsgo wrote:
Anyone who wants to speculate shit about the setup instead of finding scum:
You're wasting time.
Specifically, one of you (Toad) has done it so consistently as to pretty much derail the thread whenever possible. This makes it nearly impossible to actually focus on killing scum.
Great scum tactic. Kill prpl/Toad/VE today. From the looks of it, prpl has the best chance to be lynched.
Dr. H do you have any qualms about switching your vote? I agreed with Toad being scummy (hell, I voted him before you) but the problem is that, realistically, this town is too stupid to do what's optimal. At least, judging by the number of players who are playing like shit, they can't all be scum.
My only qualm is now scum will say tomorrow that I didn;'t "push" or whatever that means or is supposed to mean but I don't care because it's the best decision
I'll push vigs to hit toades and dirkzor at night then
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I'd rather we lynch Dirkzor, isn't prplhz normally this bad? Dirkzor is the scummiest player hands down
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