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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
February 23 2012 23:38 GMT
#970
On February 24 2012 08:34 EchelonTee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2012 08:31 Mattchew wrote:
On February 24 2012 08:10 EchelonTee wrote:
The reason why you have to think before you post is because you are scum. You have to carefully phrase how you are going to post it, so that it makes u seem unscummy, because if you post directly how you feel/think then it will expose you/

You are considering whether or not to tell me LOL YOU'RE SCUM and go balls to the wall, or to say LOL I WAS JK LETS BE FRIENDS. It has been about 1.5 hours, and you are definitely in thread. The correct, town response, would have been to say "LoL ur just using OMGUS, I'm obviously not scum".


I was actually in class from 3:15 to 5:15 EST in Mahwah NJ, and then drove 50 minutes home Bridgewater, NJ and posted from my phone at the tail end of my commute around 6:05pm.


ok I believe you that you were away from thread, you don't need to tell me the exact details of your personal life :p


i can show you online sched and car mileage too if you would like
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
February 23 2012 23:59 GMT
#973
On February 24 2012 08:50 GreYMisT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2012 08:41 gumshoe wrote:
On February 24 2012 08:27 Mattchew wrote:
Why it is reasonable to vote for Mattchew (me)

1. I have been overly aggressive and spammy
2. I have created chaos in a town setting that needed focus
3. My reads were wrong and are constantly changing
4. I have had a lot of contradicting reads and actions in this game
5. I shut up MG and TK which is where pressure becomes too much pressure
6. My big 4 scum post was bad. The case was not strong especially in a newbie game where everyone is easy to pick on.
I have let scum dictate my play, regardless of who the scum team ends up being, they have had a serious negative impact on my reads and overall play.


Well WTF have you been doing?

Good Question. What most of you don't know (I tried to breadcrumb it through my posts about gumshoe), I have never fully read the thread. I skimmed up until I joined, and then barely followed along until after jaj was shot.
This lead me to realize that I probably wasn't going to be making any good cases. I tried to sheep sloosh cause I knew he was good town in the game before.

Then I noticed the vote switch. In my first game ever (I was scum) we organized a HUGE ass vote switch last minute. The dimmu lynch brought back these memories, and then seeing exactly 4 people had switched from ET to Dimmu, I thought it almost as a sign from God or something. I followed up on those 4 by reading their filters. I remember (I think it was Adam497 or w.e) saying that he had realized post game that he should have known who was scum because of their refusal to heavily interact with one another. When I saw the minimal (and yes there was a lot of scummy) interactions with these 4, I was ready to be the hero. I then realized that Sloosh was getting his way this game. I did actually read and think his and ET's case was bad on DYH.

So finally after realizing that I was not town's hero I went back and re-read the thread. This is why I am fumbling around changing my reads every 3 seconds in a time where we need focus the most. I am playing like shit. For that I honestly have to apologize to town and everyone playing this game. A lot of you called me on my shit play but I was too arrogant to listen.

So what Mattchew?

You're right this post reeks of scum as well. I know its a little overreaction based on only getting 2 votes but with scum team having 4 votes and me being town I realize that 1 townie vote on me could lead to inevitable death and loss.

I've read this far, your post sounds terrible but maybe its honest, anything else


I have to say don't lynch me because thats my win condition and I have to play to it. Don't give me sympathy for this post and you should still hammer on me to play better. If I survive and we do lynch scum I will do my best to provide better reads.


Matt do you wanna know what itll take for me not to lynch you? I wanna see hawk get modkilled, and flip scum, thats all im asking for, someone give me that and I will stand by you to the bitter mylo.


I'm not your DT


yeah i dont wanna comment on this lol
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
February 24 2012 04:46 GMT
#987
Sloosh you make me look open to others opinions with your tunnel vision... I also answered your actually terrible case but hey you can ignore that... Ignorance is bliss right?
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
February 24 2012 05:21 GMT
#989
Wow... You really are scum cause I know you're not that stupid
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
February 24 2012 14:36 GMT
#1002
##unvote
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
February 24 2012 14:37 GMT
#1003
I'm in the car io will post more in an hour or so when I get on my work computer
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
February 24 2012 16:04 GMT
#1010
so heres my train of thought..

there is no way sloosh and ech are this unintelligent... they are pushing a "case" on me because I think ech is scum and I didn't vote the same way as sloosh. Sloosh has been doing this all game. At first I thought it was just tunneling but now i realize that it has gone too far. to write an entire case about me centered around me making reads and believing in them is terrible. I wrote a 10x better case on myself and I know that I'm not scum.

Gum I completely understand why you want to vote in hawk or schworz but here's why i disagree with you.
a. they might be mod-killed which would make our voting mean nothing
b. even if they are 1 scum or 2 scum we still have to take a large risk on voting someone to win this game.

Personally, I believe we should take that risk now so as not to waste our time 3 days from now when we are in the same exact situation with no one budging on their beliefs.

##vote EchelonTee

On February 24 2012 15:36 EchelonTee wrote:

I also find this amusing because when you say "I have to say don't lynch me because thats my win condition and I have to play to it", by saying that it is "my" win condition, it means that it suits you to not die (scum or town), as opposed to "our" win condition, which would be to not mislynch a townie.

This is just plain untrue. I don't know who our is (I have an idea) so it is my win condition, somehow you're playing this as a team huh? There is only 1 team in this game. You actually condemned yourself more than you condemned me here.

To mattchew's defense: you say that 90% of sloosh's case is you believing in your reads, but now the fact that you dont believe in your reads is weird. As town, all you have are your reads. I can see that maybe you have lost confidence after last night's flip; I did too, but if you articulated why your reads still have merit, it would be easier to see you as town. Your utter loss of confidence, as I said, reminds me of my own pullback D3 in GMarshal's Normal Mini Mafia.

My reads have changed because I realized the faults in them. I actually went into detail about why they were bad in the post you mocked before. thats ironic

I'll consider anyone but trackd00r, if everyone is dead set against the Mattchew lynch.

Really showing that confidence in lynching me. How can people see this as anything but like me, please like me

There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
February 24 2012 16:04 GMT
#1011
EBWOP

##vote EchelonTee
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
February 24 2012 16:29 GMT
#1014
yeah i was gonna post about a no lynch, you also have to remember that even if they are both mafia and we no-lynch scum still gets a kill.. so you gotta subtract 1 town from your list and we are right back where we are today, tomorrow
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
February 24 2012 17:39 GMT
#1025
i guess im just assuming the worst that they are not both scum... Either way is a risk.. you want to risk them being mod-killed as scum or do you wanna risk lynching someone today
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
February 24 2012 18:05 GMT
#1030
On February 25 2012 02:59 slOosh wrote:
We are at 6 town, 4 scum.

Right now we need 6 to lynch, which means we need all 6 townies.
Mafia win if we mislynch here. It will be 5:4 and then one of us dies at night making it 4:4. Mafia win condition fulfilled.
Mafia gain huge dividends by no lynch. While it does put us at 5:4 and gives us another day to talk, it also means mafia get one free kill. Additionally, an extra day of discussion is not worth an additional townie life, especially as it gives another day for mafia to clutter/ confuse the thread and there will be one less townie. Mafia are trying to stall and no lynch is basically setting us up for a loss.

I've PMed GMarshal about the situation, as a similar thing arose in NMMIII where some inactives caused this kind of ruckus. It was resolved by reducing the required # to lynch to the majority of those voting. Here is the post. Hopefully we will hear good news and not have to resort to such risky lynching.


As for who we should lynch:

Show nested quote +
On February 25 2012 00:44 gumshoe wrote:
Also what do we lose if we mislynch matt? A really active and useful albeit amateurish townie.


My point is that this is what scum look like. They give off the impression that they are helpful and active, but don't ever bother going the final step of taking the information and content in the thread and making a case to lynch mafia. I think EchelonTee makes a good point in noting how Mattchew's style of play has been with his suspicion on ET. It is weak and speculatory, inviting other people to look at him, but he doesn't vote for it himself until ET calls him out.


Gumshoe, don't worry about the replacement scenario. If we were in an unwinnable situation, the hosts would have called it game by now. I am sure they are doing their best to resolve it and we should trust in them as they are the hosts.


Now please turn your attention to the Mattchew case. You are a pivotal vote and you could determine fate of town.


lol .. idc what you all think of me but if your listening to this then we lost long ago
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
February 24 2012 18:16 GMT
#1031
On February 25 2012 02:59 slOosh wrote:
Now please turn your attention to the Mattchew case. You are a pivotal vote and you could determine fate of town.

ever feel like your being recruited? Darth Vader called, he wants his marketing team back
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
February 24 2012 18:24 GMT
#1032
and sloosh

6. Posting or sharing any PM you receive from a host.

don't bring that shit up in thread that you PM'd GM... thats bullshit
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
February 24 2012 18:45 GMT
#1038
yes i think that sloosh and et are scum. Why would i need to convince you sloosh? You and ET could not be playing anymore self-centered this game holy shit
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
February 24 2012 18:47 GMT
#1040
On February 25 2012 03:29 slOosh wrote:
I never said posted or shared a PM i received. I said I sent a PM to him hoping to hear back good news from him.

wtf could be good coming from GM..

Possible answers
"they are going to be modkilled"
this sucks cause if they arent scum we auto-lose
"they said they'll post"
this sucks cause itll be last minute (hi rg) and we basically have nothing to read on them


Good news for you is that they are both town and getting modkilled cause that means you win
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
February 24 2012 18:59 GMT
#1048
On February 24 2012 03:45 EchelonTee wrote:
...Honestly I think I want to lynch Steveling. His response to mattchew's post (regardless of Mattchew's alignment) was strange; he was all like "SHIT WE WON THE GAME WITH THIS GAIZ", which was pretty contrary to how the general town felt towards it. His D1 was not good (advocate no lynch, initial post is a Lol@gumshoe). I feel that all game he has only put down reads after suspicion was pretty well established. And no one has really addressed Steveling all game. I feel like he has slipped by unnoticed while having an apperance of contribution.

##Vote: Steveling


LOL this is a LYLO situation and this, this right here, is ET's case for voting Steveling. A decision that could lose the entire fucking game.

On February 24 2012 06:45 EchelonTee wrote:
LMAO, I'm way more aggresive this game than last. I don't post setup posts when I'm scum to specifically avoid them. I don't use WIFOM when I'm scum to avoid them. When I'm scum, I actually play a MORE CAREFUL game. I find it hilarious that you're using out of thread stuff to try and prove things, fully contradictory to your

meta meta meta meta meta meta meta meta meta meta meta meta meta meta meta meta meta meta meta meta meta meta meta meta meta

nonsense.

The difference is that when I buddied to prplhz, I specifically avoided making any comment on his alignment until he was a confirmed townie. Not only is sloosh not a confirmed townie, but me and him had a BACK AND FORTH early game that made people think I was scum. Why the hell would I do that as scum?

You're definitely scum now Mattchew. Thanks for clearing that up for me, and grats for not voting me even though ur making a huge accusation.

##Unvote: Steveling
##Vote: Mattchew


His defense = "I know how to play scum better than this" WTF is that. Thats not a defense lol thats an excuse for shitty scum play.

Then insta switches his defense to an attack on me without providing anything. Why would any town play knee-jerk reaction vote someone in a LYLO situation? He is willing to have town lose this game because someone voted for him.

and you and sloosh bring up that I didn't vote you in that post... so the fuck what... I had 24 hours and still have like 7 to vote. This is ridiculous
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
February 24 2012 19:04 GMT
#1050
basically what im saying in my last post.. is townies, look how much you've thought about this upcoming lynch and have tried to not rush to a decision... does Sloosh's gut read steveling and knee-jerk me vote and ET's no case and kneejerk votes send this same vibe to you... no. They are willing to lynch any townie and just take the win for the scum team
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
February 24 2012 19:05 GMT
#1053
On February 25 2012 04:01 Alderan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2012 03:58 rgTheSchworz wrote:
TK is a nonfactor now, you know why?
If he is town, he´s getting modkilled. Big deal.5-4 from 6-4 with a lurker. Not much difference.
In fact:
If TK does vote today, he´s scum. It would be better for him to get modkilled as town.
Why? Because his vote, if he is wrong, can help scum tie for votes.
Which is terribad.
I would advise him not to show up, else I vote him.


He's scum.

It's MYLO.

Let's hit the known scum.

I fail to see how this doesn't make the most sense.


he said that he would vote him if he shows, if he doesn't show he dead anyway... it just adds an extra day
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
February 24 2012 19:13 GMT
#1058
On February 25 2012 04:10 Alderan wrote:
If he votes anywhere in the last hour there's probably no way for us to mobilize votes on to him.

we can just lynch him tomorrow if he votes
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
February 24 2012 19:17 GMT
#1061
i would like ET and Sloosh dead first.. honestly the order doesnt matter to me cause i think they are scum together...

et has been scummier
tomorrow i want sloosh
then the next day zelblade
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
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