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On February 18 2012 06:22 gumshoe wrote:Show nested quote +On February 18 2012 06:20 Steveling wrote:On February 18 2012 06:15 gumshoe wrote:On February 18 2012 06:14 Steveling wrote:On February 18 2012 06:03 DoYouHas wrote:
gumshoe brings up a good point against Steveling when you consolidate gum's posts on him. Steveling initially said that lynching lurkers is our best scumhunting option so long as nobody looks very scummy by the end of the day. But then when he thought the day was ending he decided to push a no-lynch. Please explain. Well, I thought we were 4 hours from night. With our current cases, I just thought that we were gonna lose a towny. See again you come off as so cuddly despite the fact Im accusing you ) : it makes me feel bad for suspecting your mafia but that behaviour is why i suspect you in the first place. Well don't know what to say to that. That's generally how I post or talk. lol Imagine I'm the Sheth of Mafia. xP Ironically enough sheth plays a lot of tl mafia, and he's less cuddly then you'd expect. That said at one point he was suggesting that his own lynch was towns most viable move...
Could you stop posting so broadly and casually gumshoe? You are cluttering the thread and making it difficult to read the more serious posts.
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On February 18 2012 06:30 DoYouHas wrote:
My logic is that sl0osh is a decent to good player of mafia. As such I believe it is scummy for sl0osh to have ignored obvious reasoning and launched into OMGUS. It is that simple. I don't believe the quality of player that sl0osh is would have reacted in the way that sl0osh did as a townie.
If you want to lynch me based on meta just say so.
The reason why I started to banter with EchelonTee was to create discussion and also see how he (one of the more experienced members) would respond. Mission accomplished. I stopped when I felt like when it was going out of hand.
On February 17 2012 13:51 slOosh wrote:
Calm down. The worst scenario for town is to have discussion dominated by two townies going at each others throats.
So unless you think I am mafia, I would suggest that we both keep the town's best interest in mind and promote a good atmosphere.
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Gumshoe I am seriously considering lynching you due to your anti-town play. You are cluttering the thread despite numerous requests to stop. Your posts are still without content. Saying that we have a higher probability to hit mafia since there are 4 opposed to 3 is irrelevant and unhelpful in finding the mafia.
If you keep it up I will push for your lynch, because your play right now is detrimental to town.
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1:30am, back home and skimming the thread so my brain can do stuff while I sleep.
On February 18 2012 12:48 Steveling wrote:
And tbh I didn't read your wall of text either. I almost had a seizure first time I saw it,xD, pls learn how to format it in an appropriate way. Pm me if you want.
Just want to clarify, PM's and outside communication (such as irc) is FORBIDDEN (outside of mafia talking to each other)
It would be a shame for people to get modkilled / make the game unfair unknowingly.
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On February 19 2012 04:57 DoYouHas wrote:
Take note that the only person he has expressed an opinion on that didn't first attack him is gumshoe, and even those opinions are non-committal. sl0osh has done almost exactly what ET has done, except he hasn't provided us with any stances that we can later use against him. I refuse to believe that with 4hours left in the day, sl0osh has no opinions or cases worth posting. He is just trying to slide by, I won't let him.
##Vote: sl0osh
I haven't taken stances yet because it is a 15 player game, and then you throw in gumshoe and there is much more information coming in => more time to process, and me posting incomplete thoughts isn't really going to help us find mafia.
The 6pm deadline is harsher for me than the 9pm of Newbie III so I'm adjusting as best as I can.
I'm putting together what I have now and will post it.
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Well then it doesn't make sense to leave the vote on me is there? We want to avoid a no lynch. Putting it on me won't help.
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Wow, just read what I posted. Didn't mean to take such an arrogant tone.
To avoid no lynch it makes sense to focus on the most suspect candidate. Since you won't be here, no one else will push for me and so it is in one sense a wasted vote, which is something I do not want at all.
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Strangely enough my strongest scum read is DoYouHas.
In this case I will point out how he appears to contribute, but he isn't pro-town at all.
I won't be picking apart quotes, but looking at his overall behavior, since this is what led me to this read.
His first accusations are on me and MannerKiss.
I've already shared how I don't like the logic he uses.
His reasoning is that I am not playing to his expectations and therefore my subpar play indicates that I am mafia.
His next posts talk about how he thinks gumshoe is town. Notice how he doesn't focus on finding mafia, but clearing town. That looks pro-town but it isn't. We want to agree and lynch the strongest scum suspect.
He thinks gumshoe is town. Fine whatever, Why isn't he moving on and trying to find mafia?
Why is he upset that we aren't discussing how gumshoe is town?
After throwing out some weak accusations on MidnightGladius, TKHawkins, Dimmuklok and slOosh (me), he ends by voting on me. Again, I see nothing in him that wants a successful lynch.
On February 19 2012 04:57 DoYouHas wrote:
Take note that the only person he has expressed an opinion on that didn't first attack him is gumshoe, and even those opinions are non-committal. sl0osh has done almost exactly what ET has done, except he hasn't provided us with any stances that we can later use against him. I refuse to believe that with 4hours left in the day, sl0osh has no opinions or cases worth posting. He is just trying to slide by, I won't let him.
##Vote: sl0osh
His reasoning to lynch me is because "I will be harder to read later on, so it is best to lynch me now."
And his response while I am typing this up seals the deal.
On February 19 2012 06:02 DoYouHas wrote:
I am not comfortable lynching Midnight, ET, or Dimmuklok. A no lynch is preferable to me at this point. If I have not been convincing enough with my case against sl0osh, so be it. Find the majority without me.
##Vote sl0osh
He has no reads, and wants to lynch me but doesn't put any effort into it.
Not pro-town at all. Guys, don't confuse activity with pro-town agenda. He may be active, but he isn't like a townie at all.
##Vote: DoYouHas
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On February 19 2012 05:20 MidnightGladius wrote:
sl00sh has been quiet, but I'm going to leave him be for now. He doesn't stand out from the rest of the lurkers, and I don't think pressuring him with this little time left in the day will be as effective as just confirming our lynch for the day. Your post left out your thoughts on EchelonTee. What are your thoughts on him and his posting?
I discourage trying to lynch MidnightGladius today. Not because he is leaving me alone, but because his focus is on finding scum, not using his precious first day vote to pressure me.
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On February 19 2012 06:27 Janaan wrote:
At this point, it's looking like the lynch will be either Echelon or a no-lynch. I am still undecided as to which I prefer. On the one hand, I'm not really getting a scum read from Echelon, just a aggressive townie. On the other, we need information. I am usually in favor of lynching, since it provides information that is unavailable any other way. If there's a no lynch, the voting record is almost entirely useless for the day. For now, I'll vote. I just hope that it's not a huge mistake.
##Unvote: DimmuKlok
##Vote: EchelonTee
Read my case on DoYouHas. Don't lynch someone you think is a townie for information. We don't lynch for information, we lynch to kill mafia.
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I'm not soft defending you as much as I am trying to correct logical fallacies in the newer players. I think your tone is antagonistic which is why so many players are jumping on you, because it gives off the feeling of uncooperative. If that's your style, so be it, but in a newbie game especially people aren't going to like you.
Do you think my case on DoYouHas is wrong?
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MidnightGladius played totally weird day 1 when he was vig. I can understand the conclusions he came to, and maybe his difference in play is attributable to him not being a vig this time around.
On February 19 2012 06:23 slOosh wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2012 05:20 MidnightGladius wrote:
sl00sh has been quiet, but I'm going to leave him be for now. He doesn't stand out from the rest of the lurkers, and I don't think pressuring him with this little time left in the day will be as effective as just confirming our lynch for the day. Your post left out your thoughts on EchelonTee. What are your thoughts on him and his posting? I discourage trying to lynch MidnightGladius today. Not because he is leaving me alone, but because his focus is on finding scum, not using his precious first day vote to pressure me.
I'm not saying he isn't mafia. I'm saying that right now DoYouHas seems like a much better suspect. Midnight is at least following town logic, and I agree with the logic he uses (such as not wanting to share town reads right now. I don't agree with some conclusions he is coming to but the logic is sound). DoYouHas, however is not being logical at all, even though he demonstrates that he knows what town should do in NMMIII.
@Jaj, I don't think I am expecting too much. Nowhere in Day 1 of NMMIII does he consider a no lynch nor does he treat his vote with such nonchalance.
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There is only ~1 hour left in the day and the votes are 5 on ET, 3 on MG and we need 8 to lynch.
People have to start voting now. NOW.
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Not letting no lynch happen.
##Unvote
##Vote DimmuKlok
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Copy paste one of our votes
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Wow. Most tense moment ever.
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Ok. Let's not waste this night.
We have A LOT of content in the past ~5 hours and we should talk now to have a consensus going into the next day.
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So ... the lynch is over and you two (EchelonTee & MidnightGladius) just drop the cases on each other?
What do you guys think of each other?
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I agree with you, but I wanted the information to be clear to everyone.
For instance, I'm not sure what MidnightGladius' stance on you is.
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