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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
February 06 2012 15:00 GMT
#7
/in
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
February 06 2012 17:28 GMT
#10
can anyone link me to a game with a similar set up (preferably non-themed, pms or not doesnt matter)
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
February 08 2012 20:53 GMT
#50
GM get in this game
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
February 10 2012 15:33 GMT
#77
oh boy
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
February 10 2012 16:08 GMT
#79
yay like 2 more
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
February 10 2012 16:09 GMT
#80
ahem 3 more TT
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
February 12 2012 21:48 GMT
#111
/confirm

I'll be in the IRC channel.
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
February 13 2012 12:49 GMT
#176
On February 13 2012 21:48 Palmar wrote:
Now that I'm confirmed town you should probably all claim to me.


do not do this
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
February 13 2012 12:50 GMT
#178
On February 13 2012 21:49 Palmar wrote:
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On February 13 2012 21:49 Mattchew wrote:
On February 13 2012 21:48 Palmar wrote:
Now that I'm confirmed town you should probably all claim to me.


do not do this


Why? Because it's hard to maintain fake claims?


because in no way shape or form are you confirmed town
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
February 13 2012 14:23 GMT
#185
zzzzzzz
inactivity is the bane of town existence, if we want to win people need to post and irc more
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
February 13 2012 15:46 GMT
#191
On February 14 2012 00:43 froggynoddy wrote:
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Also I don´t understand why Palmar wants sinani206 and prplhz killed. I can´t see this helping town in any way. A town player (even a useless one) at least counts as townie. So why should we kill someone, if we don´t gain anything?


From my reading of other games its worthwhile, particularly at this relatively random stage of early game, to get rid of anyone harming toen, confrimed scum or not (unless obv there is a better/scumier alternative) as that 'useless townie' is causing confusion and therefore aiding scum agenda.

At leasts thats my understanding, any vets wish to confirm/deny/shove my head in dung for being stupid?

PS: this ones just for you layabout: + Show Spoiler +
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HAH! GOT YOU!


soft defense of palmar, yall scum buddies?
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
February 13 2012 16:08 GMT
#198
anddddd the first player with a 2 page filter isssssssssss.....

On February 09 2012 01:52 Blazinghand wrote:


Just as a pre-emptive meta note, I'm deliberately going to work on not spamming this game. I'm still going to be highly active, but having 30 pages of filter in a 150 page game with 18 players is not gonna happen this time around. I consider this important to improving my game. So if someone's like "Blazinghand isn't spamming, he must be scum" I want you to bear in mind that I'm not spamming either way this game.

*everyone breathes a sigh of relief*

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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
February 13 2012 16:09 GMT
#199
EBWOP
fuck im wrong prob beat you to it.
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
February 13 2012 20:13 GMT
#215
If we were to multi lynch tomorrow I would suggest the lynching of 2 (or all 3) of these

prplhz, sinani206 and [UoN]Sentinel.
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
February 13 2012 20:16 GMT
#217
Its a 2 part question designed to generate discussion as it did when you said you'd lynch Palmar if he survived. I forgot the last time generating discussion to form analysis from was scummy
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
February 13 2012 21:26 GMT
#220
prplhz
I find his posts to be bland on the side of scummy.

Here is how you say literally nothing in 5 out of 7 posts. Compare this to town prplhz in previous games, it is very different.
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On February 14 2012 03:47 prplhz wrote:
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On February 14 2012 00:43 froggynoddy wrote:
Also I don´t understand why Palmar wants sinani206 and prplhz killed. I can´t see this helping town in any way. A town player (even a useless one) at least counts as townie. So why should we kill someone, if we don´t gain anything?


From my reading of other games its worthwhile, particularly at this relatively random stage of early game, to get rid of anyone harming toen, confrimed scum or not (unless obv there is a better/scumier alternative) as that 'useless townie' is causing confusion and therefore aiding scum agenda.

At leasts thats my understanding, any vets wish to confirm/deny/shove my head in dung for being stupid?
[...]

Which of those categories do I belong to?

On February 13 2012 22:41 prplhz wrote:
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On February 13 2012 14:00 Blazinghand wrote:
Oh uh if you're gonna be in like multiple channels, how do you stop someone from /whois ing you and like finding what other channels you're in? Can this be done with the webIRC client?

Um... wow the only thing I have to say here is that you're literally retarded. Like, you rode the short bus to school and there are special classes for you. But that's okay! I don't discriminate.

.................... anyway, if you're on a channel and you're OP then you can use:

/mode #channelname +s


to make the channel secret, it will not show up on /whois for anybody who isn't also on that same channel with you. This does not stay if there is a period when nobody on the channel so make sure you set it again if you're the first one in there again later.


Didn't you say you were not going to act this way in this game? What made you decide to act this way anyway?



Crusading forumer (vigilante) shouldn't shoot tonight if that wasn't obvious.

On February 13 2012 12:09 prplhz wrote:
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On February 13 2012 09:58 Probulous wrote:
On February 13 2012 09:51 prplhz wrote:
Stop discussing that. It doesn't say anything about Palmar's alignment.


Aaah, you're a pretty queen now

I was just clarifying exactly that point. Palmar just got it wrong. He says so in irc and clearly the phag man didn't read it. What do you want to discuss? I asked you about the trait thing but you don't want to talk about that.

Holy fuck I'm a queen that's maybe even cooler than a lurker!!! :

I'm like Forumite and Foolishness now

On February 13 2012 08:52 prplhz wrote:
How should I know?

I didn't talk to him so I have no idea what all this fuss is about. Maybe you guys could post those IRC logs and everybody else could have a look?

On February 13 2012 08:35 prplhz wrote:
[image loading]

A scumdar that works 50% of the time isn't "clearly off" when there aren't 50% scum in the game.



also
On February 13 2012 02:55 prplhz wrote:

Anyway, protective roles on Palmar since he's the only reliable and vocal scum hunter on the player list.


This shouldn't need to be said. Also, this is planting the seeds for directing blues in the future.

Coupled with his role fishing out of thread, I believe prplhz is scum.

Sinani206

2 games ago
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=285690&user=128360
ACTIVE
Outcome = Veteran: sinani206


last game
On February 02 2012 15:27 sinani206 wrote:
hi guys; just saw my role pm going to bed now, gnight

outcome = Sinani206, Issisus the Pustulent, a Chaos Plaguebearer has been cast into the warp!


This game
On February 13 2012 10:29 sinani206 wrote:
why do i always check tl an hour before the game starts and then not until 10 hours later...
going out to dinner now so be back in a few hours

(its almost been 24 hours since this post I believe, and still nothing)
outcome = ??


prplhz is my strongest scumread

Sinani206 and [UoN]Sentinel have to start contributing. This is my FOS pressure on them to get them to crawl out and start participating. If they stay silent I believe they are good lynch candidates.


Some reads on townies

Layabout, provoked good discussion with talks of his plan.
Blazinghand, posts fearlessly and aggressively as if he has nothing to hide


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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
February 13 2012 21:31 GMT
#223
On February 14 2012 06:29 layabout wrote:
Mattchew are you aware that activity by itself is not indicative of alignment?

On February 14 2012 06:26 Mattchew wrote:

Sinani206 and [UoN]Sentinel have to start contributing. This is my FOS pressure on them to get them to crawl out and start participating. If they stay silent I believe they are good lynch candidates.

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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
February 13 2012 21:42 GMT
#227
On February 14 2012 06:40 rgTheSchworz wrote:
For me this thread starts just here.
Mattchew, despite the obvious focus on prplhz, which btw everyone will be one him once incriminationg data is posted, you dont give anything new.
Also, look at how he towns Blazinghand, although Blazin has stated that he has been spammy as both scum and town.


its not the quantity its the tone of bh's posts I am refering to.
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
February 14 2012 16:41 GMT
#281
I support a double lynch. spotlights shady vote switches and leaves less room to hide
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
February 14 2012 23:48 GMT
#303
On February 15 2012 08:41 Probulous wrote:
Ok I seem to be having a one-way conversation with myself in here, which my doctor says is not good for my health. So in a bid to try and get someone to join the conversation, here is my list of lurkers that need to post more in thread. IRC is all well and good but when it comes to working out your alignment IRC is a bitch. So do us a favour and post in here. If you are not posting your cases and thoughts in here you are not helping. Vigs as far as I am concerned you can fire away...

Lurkers - Not the good kind
  • zeurg
  • Bluelightz
  • rgTheWhoCares
  • SpiritClown
  • sinani206
  • Kenpachi
  • Grackaroni

There are others who have not posted much but what they have posted has felt townie to me. These guys I can't work out (except zeurg, you're going down).


rg has been good in IRC imo. other than that you left off hufy (you think hes gonna get replaced) and mderg... he also was the first to vote
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
February 15 2012 16:11 GMT
#332
On February 16 2012 00:06 SpiritClown wrote:
And prob the thing about shooting i was referring to town blues and it was also a joke -.-

And the fact that i seem to lurk is because i'm inexperienced so i'm not so good at the game and i prefer to post something that might help instead of spamming (sorry for double post, i had yet to read all the posts done in my absence)

We have till 23:00 KST of today to vote for lynch right?


hello there scum.

Vote: SpiritClown
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
February 15 2012 16:53 GMT
#334
Lady and Gentlemen I present to you the first scum

SpiritClown

Comparing this (his first game) to my first game (I was scum), I recognized an identical tone and style in posting.
On February 16 2012 00:06 SpiritClown wrote:
And the fact that i seem to lurk is because i'm inexperienced so i'm not so good at the game and i prefer to post something that might help instead of spamming (sorry for double post, i had yet to read all the posts done in my absence)

On February 14 2012 04:07 SpiritClown wrote:
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On February 14 2012 03:57 Lanaia wrote:
On February 14 2012 03:11 SpiritClown wrote:
I suspect prplhz has PMed some of you asking for your role... so who was asked by him? And who answered?


If I remember correctly, he asked me in IRC and I didn't answer. I don't really see a need to reveal my role night zero/one/whatever we're calling it.
Why do you suspect that? Because he asked you?

I personally don't see why it's a huge deal. Saying "No." isn't hard.


I'm not suspecting... i just wondered if he sent that to everyone or if he sent it only to some ppl (the newbies)



On November 27 2011 15:27 Mattchew wrote:
I honestly do not know what to say in this thread. I have no feelings as to who is scum and who is town, I don't want to point fingers and end up being wrong because I don't truly understand what I am reading.

On November 28 2011 21:16 Mattchew wrote:
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On November 28 2011 21:05 sandroba wrote:
I find it amuzing that you previously felt no need to comment on this game and that is your only post of substance.


I think you are refering to me. This is the first time I have felt comfortable in saying anything. Before the clues it has all been politics and post analysis. I don't know how to decifer these things. I am much more comfortable talking about the clues. I think Ciryandor's linking to xttfc and kitaman's death holds more weight because it is a direct correlation but not as "in-your-face" as the syllo death palmar quoted. Either way xttfc has a couple fingers pointing at him.


I want to point you to the case Risen made against me (note, he was town I was scum)
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On November 30 2011 05:25 Risen wrote:
I believe Mattchew is a lurker-mafia. I do not think we should lynch him, I think he should be shot by lurker-vig.

Mattchew has a total of 11 posts since he made it in. Of those, 5 are defending zeks.

Having said that.

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On November 27 2011 15:27 Mattchew wrote:
I honestly do not know what to say in this thread. I have no feelings as to who is scum and who is town, I don't want to point fingers and end up being wrong because I don't truly understand what I am reading.


Scum behavior. Maybe you're new, but now that everyone has been saying people need to post so people can get a read, I think it's time to start posting.

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On November 28 2011 21:16 Mattchew wrote:
On November 28 2011 21:05 sandroba wrote:
I find it amuzing that you previously felt no need to comment on this game and that is your only post of substance.


I think you are refering to me. This is the first time I have felt comfortable in saying anything. Before the clues it has all been politics and post analysis. I don't know how to decifer these things. I am much more comfortable talking about the clues. I think Ciryandor's linking to xttfc and kitaman's death holds more weight because it is a direct correlation but not as "in-your-face" as the syllo death palmar quoted. Either way xttfc has a couple fingers pointing at him.


Says that he's more comfortable posting now, and then posts useless fluff. Relies on other people posting their thoughts so he can point to them and say, "Oh but I was just following their logic!"

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On November 29 2011 00:41 Mattchew wrote:
On November 29 2011 00:25 Match wrote:
On November 28 2011 23:46 Mattchew wrote:
##vote ace
##vote risen

Curious as to why you voted these two.


Followed Palmar's 1 for 1 theory especially with ace calling so hard for his lynching while I write this. I figured that palmar can atleast leave us with double lynching if Ace is lynched first and actually turns out to be town.

Followed people's reasoning for calling out risen aka:
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On November 28 2011 23:10 Ciryandor wrote:
In any case, besides zeks, people have forgotten about Risen's post here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=12490813 and note the timestamp. It's before the nightpost came out, and after people called him out on it, he repeats the EXACT SAME POST http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=12491027 after the update shows up. I don't see any real links to his profile from the possible clues in the deathposts, but his lack of response deserves some scrutiny.

On November 28 2011 23:25 Palmar wrote:
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On November 28 2011 23:18 sandroba wrote:
@Palmar do you think there is any way that risen is not mafia?


Yes, never underestimate how dumb townies can be.

But it's very unlikely, seeing as he promptly decided to celebrate living the night through before he had any way of knowing he would survive.

I'm cool with lynching/vigging/bombing/nuking him.


On November 28 2011 23:31 zeks wrote:
I must say that it is fair for you guys to incriminate me based on those clues but I assure you all I'm Town and if any of you have played clue games you'd know not to go by clues alone because mods tend to make them hard and vague (usually easier to spot as days go on). I'll be posting a write-up on a few people who I think are good lynches based on clues and behaviour.

Although I have taken notice of Risen's major slip which I don't believe is pure coincidence. This can be linked to him

Syllogism was out for his morning run when he stopped to tie his laces. He ran in marathons, and so each day he followed the same routine of waking up in the morning, putting on his tracksuit and going for a half-hour long run through the forest behind his house. Today was no different. Often, the trail he used was completely empty of other people, and so he was surprised when he finished tying his shoes to look up and see a man in a black trench-coat standing off to the side of the trail ahead of him. He was even more surprised when the man lifted a rifle and put two bullets into his chest.

@Match my quote speaks of "woods" not forest

A backstory of my quote:
My quote from a poem by Robert Frost called "The Road Not Taken"

The quote really puts me on the chopping block cause anything with path or road or trail would be linked to me =| sigh.

Well thats my defense I don't know what else to say. I'll do my best to do some analysis before voting ends in the case that I do die.



Well at least he took note of the tiny clue Zeks posted when trying to justify a case against me. Be that as it may, he's using justification from Zeks, who would not want to point the finger at another mafia player. Zeks most likely went through the death notes and was searching for anything that would point to me, that way when people started voting for me it wouldn't appear that they were voting JUST based on a "scumslip". This is really good, because Zeks knows he's going to be lynched, by giving his scum brothers justification to vote me, they can all now say "Oh but the clues pointed to Risen AND he made a scumslip"

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On November 29 2011 01:07 Mattchew wrote:
On November 29 2011 00:58 sandroba wrote:
@Matchew How does that reasoning prove that either one of them must be scum?


I am not 100% sure of ANYONE being scum at this point. With only 16 scum to 54 towns people I like to think that the 1 for 1 odds of Palmar and Ace seems pretty decent for us to atleast eliminate 1 mafia.

The risen guy slipped up in a scummy way and unless better analysis of clues are given I think this is the best lead we have.

I don't hate the logic on zeks but I am not completely sold on it. I choose between risen and zeks for the second vote. If you or anyone can make a more compelling argument for zeks I will gladly vote him over risen


Really? You think my one "scumslip" is the best read we have?

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On November 30 2011 00:48 Mattchew wrote:
I sincerely doubt that we will be able to read anything into the mafia players based on one clue. As we let the clues build up the scum we are being pointed at will become more apparent. That being said, Zeks has not done a great job of defending himself against a ton of votes and accusations against him. Therefore my before votes of Risen and Palmar will now change to zeks and a either palmar or risen. I have yet to determine which is the safer vote for town.


Now that he sees Zeks is going down he's abandoning ship and just voting for Zeks. Honestly, it would be less scummy in my opinion had he stuck to his guns on this.

In conclusion, I don't think Mattchew has been contributing much of anything. He's lurking and using his posts to just follow other people's logic so he doesn't have to justify anything and can just point the finger to who "persuaded" him. He agrees now that Zeks is mafia but he still wants to vote for me based on Zeks' analysis of a clue? What?




Some points Risen made that I would like to re-use against Spirit
  • Scum behavior. Maybe you're new, but now that everyone has been saying people need to post so people can get a read, I think it's time to start posting.
  • Relies on other people posting their thoughts so he can point to them and say, "Oh but I was just following their logic!"
  • In conclusion, I don't think (SpiritClown) has been contributing much of anything. He's lurking and using his posts to just follow other people's logic so he doesn't have to justify anything and can just point the finger to who "persuaded" him.


Also, SpiritClown has done literally nothing in IRC even though he claims noone was talking. We were talking, and probably 1/3 of this game is Europe (if not more) that is not an excuse.
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212.log:[18:55:54] *** Joins: SpiritClown_ (webchat@adsl-ull-167-185.51-151.net24.it)
/var/www/mafia/#WHOLETTHEDOGSOUT_20120212.log:[18:56:10] <SpiritClown_> hi
/var/www/mafia/#WHOLETTHEDOGSOUT_20120212.log:[19:01:04] <SpiritClown_> no one here?
/var/www/mafia/#WHOLETTHEDOGSOUT_20120212.log:[19:11:12] *** Quits: SpiritClown_ (webchat@adsl-ull-167-185.51-151.net24.it) (Quit: Page closed)
/var/www/mafia/#WHOLETTHEDOGSOUT_20120212.log:[21:11:51] *** Joins: SpiritClown (webchat@adsl-ull-167-185.51-151.net24.it)
/var/www/mafia/#WHOLETTHEDOGSOUT_20120212.log:[21:12:24] *** Quits: SpiritClown (webchat@adsl-ull-167-185.51-151.net24.it) (Quit: Page closed)
/var/www/mafia/#WHOLETTHEDOGSOUT_20120213.log:[20:35:33] *** Joins: SpiritClown (webchat@adsl-ull-120-176.51-151.net24.it)
/var/www/mafia/#WHOLETTHEDOGSOUT_20120213.log:[20:35:41] <SpiritClown> hello ^^
/var/www/mafia/#WHOLETTHEDOGSOUT_20120213.log:[20:36:03] <SpiritClown> who else is on now?
/var/www/mafia/#WHOLETTHEDOGSOUT_20120213.log:[20:37:38] <SpiritClown> i dont0ò... at least not completely
/var/www/mafia/#WHOLETTHEDOGSOUT_20120213.log:[20:39:52] <SpiritClown> so aside from the guy spamming pm to know the roles who else do you think is scummy?
/var/www/mafia/#WHOLETTHEDOGSOUT_20120213.log:[20:45:53] <SpiritClown> since we want u to suffer we will not shoot or lynch u Schworz ^^
/var/www/mafia/#WHOLETTHEDOGSOUT_20120213.log:[20:47:19] <SpiritClown> nah, I'm a nice guy ^^ but killing a random guy is not helpful to us right now i think
/var/www/mafia/#WHOLETTHEDOGSOUT_20120213.log:[20:48:31] <SpiritClown> so what should we talk about now?
/var/www/mafia/#WHOLETTHEDOGSOUT_20120213.log:[20:48:59] <Lanaia> SpiritClown, who do you want to hear more from?
/var/www/mafia/#WHOLETTHEDOGSOUT_20120213.log:[20:49:24] <SpiritClown> what? from who i want to hear more?
/var/www/mafia/#WHOLETTHEDOGSOUT_20120213.log:[20:49:33] <SpiritClown> about what?
/var/www/mafia/#WHOLETTHEDOGSOUT_20120213.log:[20:49:38] <SpiritClown> or about who?
/var/www/mafia/#WHOLETTHEDOGSOUT_20120213.log:[20:49:54] <SpiritClown> oh
/var/www/mafia/#WHOLETTHEDOGSOUT_20120213.log:[20:50:25] <SpiritClown> why so spammy?
/var/www/mafia/#WHOLETTHEDOGSOUT_20120213.log:[20:50:48] <SpiritClown> if 2 don't do it mate
/var/www/mafia/#WHOLETTHEDOGSOUT_20120213.log:[20:50:59] <SpiritClown> they are shutting it down in a little
/var/www/mafia/#WHOLETTHEDOGSOUT_20120213.log:[20:51:16] <SpiritClown> also add me to steam palmar pls XD i also have beta (even if i'm newb)
/var/www/mafia/#WHOLETTHEDOGSOUT_20120213.log:[20:52:50] <SpiritClown> why are we still talking about rgThewhat? i think we are just wasting time for now
/var/www/mafia/#WHOLETTHEDOGSOUT_20120213.log:[20:52:55] <Lanaia> SpiritClown, i agree
/var/www/mafia/#WHOLETTHEDOGSOUT_20120213.log:[20:53:47] <SpiritClown> so let's just talk about random crap... what do you think of the recent GSL?XDDDDDD
/var/www/mafia/#WHOLETTHEDOGSOUT_20120213.log:[20:54:24] <SpiritClown> i have gsl in the morning, good luck whatching in europe
/var/www/mafia/#WHOLETTHEDOGSOUT_20120213.log:[20:54:47] <SpiritClown> in europe it's like at 10 am
/var/www/mafia/#WHOLETTHEDOGSOUT_20120213.log:[20:55:07] <SpiritClown> europe or Korea?
/var/www/mafia/#WHOLETTHEDOGSOUT_20120213.log:[20:55:33] <SpiritClown> where i am it's 9:55 pm
/var/www/mafia/#WHOLETTHEDOGSOUT_20120213.log:[20:57:13] <SpiritClown> well what about the ghost nerf?
/var/www/mafia/#WHOLETTHEDOGSOUT_20120213.log:[20:58:35] <SpiritClown> raven would be nice to see... dunno though...
/var/www/mafia/#WHOLETTHEDOGSOUT_20120213.log:[20:58:51] <SpiritClown> how does mech requires more apm? just for the tank siege?
/var/www/mafia/#WHOLETTHEDOGSOUT_20120213.log:[20:59:06] <SpiritClown> i don't understand that
/var/www/mafia/#WHOLETTHEDOGSOUT_20120213.log:[21:04:12] <SpiritClown> the thing about P is that it has the most spellcasters so it might be difficult for that
/var/www/mafia/#WHOLETTHEDOGSOUT_20120213.log:[21:13:41] <SpiritClown> so... coming back to mafia... what do you think should we do? just wait?
/var/www/mafia/#WHOLETTHEDOGSOUT_20120213.log:[21:14:52] <SpiritClown> mhh might be a bit soon but maybe the guy asking for rolecheks on PM's...
/var/www/mafia/#WHOLETTHEDOGSOUT_20120213.log:[21:16:03] <SpiritClown> y claims, sry new to the game expecially in english
/var/www/mafia/#WHOLETTHEDOGSOUT_20120213.log:[21:16:09] <SpiritClown> so my terminology it's not the best
/var/www/mafia/#WHOLETTHEDOGSOUT_20120213.log:[21:17:27] <SpiritClown> y, thanks
/var/www/mafia/#WHOLETTHEDOGSOUT_20120213.log:[21:17:38] <SpiritClown> he also claimed me scum for not telling him -.-
/var/www/mafia/#WHOLETTHEDOGSOUT_20120213.log:[21:17:49] <SpiritClown> and saying everyone else told him
/var/www/mafia/#WHOLETTHEDOGSOUT_20120213.log:[21:17:53] <SpiritClown> an obvious lie
/var/www/mafia/#WHOLETTHEDOGSOUT_20120213.log:[21:19:18] <SpiritClown> y prplhz
/var/www/mafia/#WHOLETTHEDOGSOUT_20120213.log:[21:19:39] <SpiritClown> oh is it him?
/var/www/mafia/#WHOLETTHEDOGSOUT_20120213.log:[21:25:00] <SpiritClown> u troll for the sake of trolling there's no more reasons needed
/var/www/mafia/#WHOLETTHEDOGSOUT_20120213.log:[21:25:03] <SpiritClown> in general i mean
/var/www/mafia/#WHOLETTHEDOGSOUT_20120213.log:[21:26:55] <SpiritClown> i was not talking about you
/var/www/mafia/#WHOLETTHEDOGSOUT_20120213.log:[21:29:16] <SpiritClown> opinions about the new post in the thread?
/var/www/mafia/#WHOLETTHEDOGSOUT_20120213.log:[21:30:19] <SpiritClown>
/var/www/mafia/#WHOLETTHEDOGSOUT_20120213.log:[21:33:54] <SpiritClown> lol
/var/www/mafia/#WHOLETTHEDOGSOUT_20120213.log:[21:36:31] <SpiritClown> y
/var/www/mafia/#WHOLETTHEDOGSOUT_20120213.log:[21:36:50] <SpiritClown> should i post the PM or not?
/var/www/mafia/#WHOLETTHEDOGSOUT_20120213.log:[21:39:34] <SpiritClown> posted
/var/www/mafia/#WHOLETTHEDOGSOUT_20120213.log:[21:42:17] <SpiritClown> i would have loved to claimed scum just to troll
/var/www/mafia/#WHOLETTHEDOGSOUT_20120213.log:[21:42:39] <SpiritClown> XD
/var/www/mafia/#WHOLETTHEDOGSOUT_20120213.log:[21:44:57] <SpiritClown> hi
/var/www/mafia/#WHOLETTHEDOGSOUT_20120213.log:[21:54:38] <SpiritClown> hi
/var/www/mafia/#WHOLETTHEDOGSOUT_20120213.log:[21:55:18] <SpiritClown> uat?
/var/www/mafia/#WHOLETTHEDOGSOUT_20120213.log:[22:00:58] <SpiritClown> sry i dunno
/var/www/mafia/#WHOLETTHEDOGSOUT_20120213.log:[22:08:19] <SpiritClown> well guys i would love to stay here more but i have to get up early tomorrow morning
/var/www/mafia/#WHOLETTHEDOGSOUT_20120213.log:[22:08:30] <SpiritClown> so bye bye and see ya later


Also, this shouldn't be the foundation of my case, but the guys said sorry or sry 7 times in irc and thread

So far, I believe Spirit to be the most sure-fire lynch we have
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
February 15 2012 17:37 GMT
#335
Thursday, Feb 16 4:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) is the end of the cycle I believe

About 22 hours till lynch(s) and night actions


(mod confirm plz)
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
February 15 2012 18:39 GMT
#341
On February 16 2012 03:25 Ciryandor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2012 02:37 Mattchew wrote:
Thursday, Feb 16 4:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) is the end of the cycle I believe

About 22 hours till lynch(s) and night actions


(mod confirm plz)


Confirming on the date, but I miscalculated by 1 hour, it was supposed to be 00:00 KST to give me time to write the update before sleeping.

Note that Night Orders have to be sent before the deadline; i.e. players will get both a day and night post in one single update.



so it is

Thursday, Feb 16 3:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00)

can you please include the next one in the day/night posts in this format so it localizes the time... thx!
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
February 15 2012 18:59 GMT
#343
On February 16 2012 03:30 SpiritClown wrote:
Now that u believe I'm scum i think i have done something wrong (because I'm not scum). As for missing analysis and "not doing anything to contribute" that's because I really have nothing to say... what should I do? If i just spam it's scum behaviour and if i don't it's scum behaviour because I'm lurking -.-

Contribute opinions to anything. A townie wouldn't be afraid to post his opinions on anything, even if they are wrong.

On February 16 2012 03:30 SpiritClown wrote:Whathether... Honestly i think prplhz is scum (or scummy at least) because of his reaction to me refusing to tell him his role... that's the only thing I can honestly say... about the other people i don't know.

Why would you not say town? Its weird that you didn't

On February 16 2012 03:30 SpiritClown wrote:Maybe i should just don't play like i do in every other game being nice to people and being sorry if they can't play since in mafia they all think u are scum if u do so...

You want sympathy?

hang scum
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
February 15 2012 19:28 GMT
#347
On February 16 2012 04:12 SpiritClown wrote:

Saying I'm not scum or say I'm town it's very different... yeah -.-

And I'm not afraid to post my opinions... honestly about you I think either u are scum and are just trying to make me lynch using my errors to save a shot or either u are a towny trying to find me scum and make other people lynch me. Probably the second one i would think but i'm not sure... something about your behaviour and animosity it's making me think u might be scum, but that might be because you're attacking me

And saying I'm town in a MP it's the obvious thing to do... saying "i won't say to you" or say "i'm town" it's the same thing because everyone would say that.




I meant why wouldn't you just say to prplhz you were town. I understand why you wouldn't tell him trait and role.

Why aren't you on IRC even though you are active in thread.

You still haven't provided answers to many of my points against you and you just gave a town/scum read on me.


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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
February 15 2012 19:28 GMT
#348
ghost get in irc too
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
February 15 2012 21:41 GMT
#356
Lanaia you got mderg to talk how about now you contribute something that isn't related to counting people who have voted or setup based... Like an actual vote on someone you think is scum... For the amount of time you've spent in irc and hovering the thread you have very little content that you can put your name to... Posting this on iPhone during 5 min class break
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
February 16 2012 01:13 GMT
#386
On February 16 2012 10:10 sinani206 wrote:
typical game with me in it:
i die day one.
town wastes a lynch.
then town loses.
also, kenpachi is right over the last few pages about a lot of stuff
and also i hate bandwagons. a lot.


why do you typically die day 1
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
February 16 2012 01:56 GMT
#390
On February 16 2012 10:53 sinani206 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2012 10:13 Mattchew wrote:
On February 16 2012 10:10 sinani206 wrote:
typical game with me in it:
i die day one.
town wastes a lynch.
then town loses.
also, kenpachi is right over the last few pages about a lot of stuff
and also i hate bandwagons. a lot.


why do you typically die day 1


cause im bad


find me scum that hasn't attacked you and doesn't make you look bitter
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
February 16 2012 04:06 GMT
#392
Fuck a defense just do some valid scum hunting
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
February 16 2012 13:11 GMT
#410
On February 16 2012 21:59 froggynoddy wrote:
Hello all, sorry Its been a bit of a while, had a bball game yesterday and was too tired to do anything but have a bath and crash, will be on IRC this pm though.

Right, my reads:

Scummy

Firstly I would like to say I'm finding it really difficult to differentiate scummy with bad/noob play. That, and the fact that its Day 1 does not give me much confidence in my reads.

In no particular order:

1. Spiritclown
Show nested quote +
[20:45:53] <SpiritClown> since we want u to suffer we will not shoot or lynch u Schworz ^^


Similar to what Paperscraps said this does not sit well with me. Again this could be language issues or just finding the game difficult (God knows I am). But both these factors could induce a slip-up though. His rather weak response seams to go in that direction also:

Show nested quote +
And prob the thing about shooting i was referring to town blues and it was also a joke -.-


Could still be just an honest slip up but this early in the game any evidence seems to be worth acting on.

2. [UoN]Sentinel

Claiming to be scum seems like a stupid move, both as scum and as townie. Its probably a slightly stupider move as scum as he was talking to someone who seems to be regarded as townier than most... thats a thin defence though.

Show nested quote +
[01:39:43] <Paperscraps> sentinel you town bro?
[01:39:54] <[UoN]Sentinel> no
[01:39:55] <[UoN]Sentinel> i'm scum
[01:39:59] <Paperscraps> k
[01:40:03] <[UoN]Sentinel> in fact i'm going to kill you tonight



People I think might not be scum but aren't helping town much:

1. Sinani 206: As said previously you just don't seem to care. That hurts town as it makes you a suspect.

Show nested quote +
typical game with me in it:
i die day one.
town wastes a lynch.
then town loses.
also, kenpachi is right over the last few pages about a lot of stuff
and also i hate bandwagons. a lot.


Show nested quote +
cause im bad


Time to rethink your style of play perhaps?

2. Grackaroni: Ever since people have stopped suspecting you you have taken a back seat (apart form your tunnelling of Bluelightz.)

3. Zeurg: Inactivity hurts town. Looks like scum, makes us waste a lynch if not scum.

4. Kenpachi: Apart from defending yourself, being a bit dickish and telling everyone how much IRC sucks I don't see much substance. Obv nothing meriting a scum read yet but I don't like you. Saying that you are unpredictable as both scum and townie means that you cause as much chaos as a person can do. You would therefore not be a loss to town.


People I'm Worried about:

Palmar: I'm worried mainly due to your reputation and your relatively weak case against sinani:

+ Show Spoiler +
Palmar Iceland. February 16 2012 08:39. Posts 4747 PM Profile Blog Report Quote #
filter
So, I think we should kill sinani206. The reason is quite simple. He has refused to contribute in to the thread in a manner that might actually help us find scum. Yet he's fine with hopping into the thread to call some random play bad. That's just posting for the sake of posting.

On February 15 2012 09:13 sinani206 wrote:
Show nested quote +


townie lists are bad

i honestly dont care if you think im scummy because no one else does

This post serves no purpose in the thread. It's not even correct, while lacking any reasoning these lists aren't terribly useful, they at least give me an idea of how the player posting them is approaching the game.

On February 15 2012 09:54 sinani206 wrote:
Show nested quote +


i'd rather not hide any facts. i don't have any opinions.


Normally when townies are cocky it's because they think they're right, but sinani is actually being cocky without even attempting to be right. Like being cocky isn't a scumtell in itself, because usually it's townies that are assholes. But the way in which sinani is doing it is very scummy.

The fact is, it's now very late in the day because of the strange deadline. And sinani has shown no interest in the game at all. The way in which he has shown and described complete disinterest in the game makes him very likely to flip scum.

I suggest we make him at least one of our kills for today.

##Vote sinani206


which is pretty weak, saying nothing about others players who are equally damaging to town. I realise this may be purposeful but... am worried. The only thing that makes me less worried is you said this pretty early on:

Show nested quote +
I think we should murder sinani206. At worst nothing of value will have been lost.


Still, not liking someone does not make them scum, otherwise I would vote Kenpachi.

I have opinions about other players but this post has gone on for long enough.

Due to the above and current vote standings, and Town seems to want a double lynch I am therefore:

##Vote Spiritclown

PS: You have a great name. Small consolation I know.


WTF is this... you hang tomorrow
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
February 16 2012 13:22 GMT
#412
On February 16 2012 22:21 Mattchew wrote:
##unvote: Spiritclown
##vote: Qatol


making the count 5 to 5
leaving this here to counter any last minute scum shanigans

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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
February 16 2012 13:24 GMT
#414
4. You may vote for yourself. You may vote for anyone dead or outside the game; BUT IT WILL HAVE CONSEQUENCES.
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
February 16 2012 13:38 GMT
#420
froggy pay attention.

vote spirit
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
February 16 2012 14:00 GMT
#426
On February 16 2012 22:41 prplhz wrote:
Problem here is that sinani206 can easily change his vote to SpiritClown to save himself and vice versa.

this is why im on whitney
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
February 16 2012 14:53 GMT
#428
okay, if any vote switches or weird stuff happens. I will be the one fixing it. No one else try to respond by changing their vote
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
February 16 2012 15:00 GMT
#431
we good
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
February 16 2012 15:43 GMT
#435
On February 17 2012 00:33 mderg wrote:
stupid me... didn´t get my bus home, so I wasn´t able to vote in time


you had 60... 60 hours
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
February 16 2012 15:49 GMT
#440
fuck. gg.
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
February 18 2012 23:32 GMT
#556
On February 17 2012 10:21 Ciryandor wrote:
Hufy the 3rd in Command Cursed Townie has been mod-killed.
nisani201 is substituting in for zeurg

All further non-votes will be mod-killed

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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
February 22 2012 15:09 GMT
#655
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
February 22 2012 15:39 GMT
#668
best moment ever
[21:27] <Probulous> The only people that are my town list are me, Palmar, Lanaia and Matt
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
February 22 2012 15:58 GMT
#673
wait... palmar killed prob?
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-22 16:06:54
February 22 2012 16:06 GMT
#676
but why did palmar kill prob?

and why did i got shot for looking too townie TT
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
February 22 2012 16:33 GMT
#680
yeah i thought so... ok phew that woulda really mind fucked me
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
February 23 2012 13:04 GMT
#691
On February 23 2012 15:23 Kenpachi wrote:
What did Palmar do to become confirmed town?

nothing.. but you knew that.. hence why we killed you
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