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yeah I decided between those 5 people. BC actually never answered me if this is okay or not but GM said it's okay as long as the list of people I picked is okay although he'd still handpick the guy himself. Seeing how handpicking didn't really work out this game for me I think this is awesome. Anyways it's going to be hilarious and the guy with the most tails is dead by tomorrow :p | ||
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If my shot tonight hits a mafia I have scientifically proven that my coin is better at scumhunting than I am. If my shot tonight hits a townie I hit 3 townies in a row this game. Not really sure what I want to happen. Also, it's fucking boring at 3:23 am and I've got nothing to do but I at least want to tell you guys a sec before deadline who I shot in case he survives... | ||
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 Wasn't really paying attention the last few days due to storm and myself being incredible pissed about this game.I just wanted to say sorry for my performance this game and for that bullshit cointossing-move... I never should have done that. Actually I pm'ed BC that as well afterwards and told him to do whatever he wants to do about it because imo I wasn't playing to win anymore at that point in time and was instead just pissed because I sucked so hard. It was just a cheap excuse to blame something else instead of myself and again I really don't care about me shooting opz and Kenpachi, I still think these shots were not that awful but shooting Chaoser was just straight up bullshit and I did it because I was angry and flipped a coin and not because I thought he was scummy. At least after his defence I no longer thought he was anywhere nearly as scummy as people like VE and hiro. I really wasn't trusting my reads anymore and should have not shot at all that night or should have just had the balls to shoot who I thought was scummy no matter what happened d1+d2. Well apparently BC thinks it was not as big of a deal as I think it was because he never answered that pm I send him and I am not banned or warned for that behavior. I guess I am at least obligated to tell you guys and again, sry for doing such a bullshit move n3. | ||
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On February 24 2012 04:03 RayzorFlash wrote: Random Observation: Both the games I've played in, I've been vanilla town and come off as being scummy... Need to figure out why that is and how to stop it =_= I actually thought you were scummy and thought ico was pretty townish for whatever reason. Gave me some issues dealing with you :p | ||
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On February 24 2012 00:11 rgTheSchworz wrote: gg, I did play horrible after Toad´s CC. I should´nt have lied or I should have lied much more. My reads have been bad, except for JayJay and JB, who btw, should have been lynched D3 instead of Kurumi. D3 lynch decided the game, I had no credibility whatsoever in the endgame. Should have pushed that much more for JB D3, if he had gotten lynched, we would have won. mmh I don't think lynching into JB or JJ would habe been a good idea even if you think they're quite scummy. Let's face it we got several people who looked awful this game and it was really hard to distinguish between those people, which was the reason I treated myself as a lurkerbane early on and not as a classic vig. Additionally Kurumi was a granted reduce in KP which was really important. Sure you could have been lucky and ended up lynching the GF when you're right about someone being mafia but that chance is slim. You guys really needed to reduce KP d3 and lynching Kurumi was the savest and almost the best thing possible imo. Oh and about the lies. Yeah really we should never have lied in the first place. I thought I can handle this and thought it was a good idea to claim two-face because I was immune vs shots at night and on top of that thought that Batman wouldn't look into someone who calimed Two-Face unless he knew I was really immune vs CW as well. But this whole thing snowballed out of controle. I said several times that we should talk about something else but someone brought my claim back as a topic to discuss ALL THE TIME and finally DocH understood what was going on and asked me all kind of weird questions to figure out if I am joker which lead to everyone else knowing I am joker as well because I answered those questions. Everyone who played the game should have known I am the joker the moment DocH asked me "did you *hire* somebody?" and I replied with yes after he was stubbornly sticking to that question. I still think the move itself was good but I really had no controle over what was happening and it snowballed into a big shitstorm so I guess it was not | ||
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On February 24 2012 04:54 wherebugsgo wrote: You never lie as town, and if you do lie and it's that obvious, then scum will jump all over it and get you lynched. A competent town will almost always lynch a clear liar. Most towns recently have been derping pretty damn hard though, where they leave a liar alive despite how detrimental he/she is to the town. Ex. BM in TL Mafia L, that's a good example. Ofc once it was confirmed he was a liar he died, but you get the idea. Basically the way you lied this game, I (and by extension the entire scumteam) knew you were lying. generally there's only two reasons a person lies; they're scum (so if you were 3rd party we wouldn't shoot you) or they're trying to draw hits (so we wouldn't shoot you). Since we knew that, PLUS by lying you had no clout in town why would we ever shoot you? The only people who would ever shoot you would have all been vigis. Saying you need to lie so that as scum you can lie is stupid. Neither side needs to lie, ever. I'm sad LaL isn't actually popular here, because it's the one of the few things about TL town play that is really bad. Lying is just not punished enough. well I was pretty sure mafia would think that way which was another reason for my fakeclaim. I never intended to actually draw hits. Sure that would have been nice but to think so would have been pretty naive. I wanted you guys to think that I'm a VET or VT who tried to draw some hits and that worked. Obviously it failed afterwards because of all the talk, so that's a lesson for me. Either shut your mouth after a lie and don't explain it if you did it for a good reason or simply not lie in the first place :p | ||
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If a Townie lies he does that for a reason. If I claim VT in a game and in reality am a blue would you say it's a good idea to try and understand why that "VT" lied if you're sure it's a townie? No you'd shut up and not talk about it because that guy had a reason to not talk about it. | ||
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On February 24 2012 05:09 wherebugsgo wrote: Yeah, except I as scum can do the exact same thing and then you're royally fucked. The reason you lynch liars over simply ignoring them is that not everyone will just ignore them, and you have no idea whether or not they're even town. Since scum can do the exact same thing, lynching all the liars is just much simpler on principle. There are just too few scenarios where lying as town is good for town. why should a mafia beg to be shot my CW. Sure in at least 90% of the cases CW will think herself that that guy wants to draw a hit because he's a vet and therefore not shoot me or or DT me instead to figure out what's happening. Why should a mafia take that risk? Sure the risk to be actually shot is low but who got the balls to do that and explain his mates afterwards why he did that? | ||
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On February 25 2012 00:23 Radfield wrote: You should  , you're two for two on fooling me!yeah I know. The moment you flipped I facepalmed really hard. The first thing I thought after your flip was something like: AW CRAP, he said I'm mafia d1 very early on and a couple of hours later [like a RL day?] he said he likes what I'm doing and I'm probably Town. Radfield never figures me out. He did not figure me out he knew my alignment all along! How could I not see that? :p Should improve my townplay though | ||
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