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oh btw I finally understand what's going on ❤
On February 13 2012 17:31 Palmar wrote:
ok let's do this:
I'm a Detective. My role name is Calendar Man
I checked Radfield last night, he's:
Talia al Ghul
That's enough evidence for me that he actually is batman, is not allowed to claim batman, shot radfield, he's still alive, Palmar WTF-ED BIG TIME (protecting rad n1 is not really THAT unlikely, but surving a batman shot is pretty unlikely if the guy only got mediced) and now he used this DT lie to tell people what Radfiel is without telling everyne he's Batman. Lynch Radfield now?
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On February 14 2012 00:19 Kurumi wrote:
OH
I FORGOT
Thanks Jay.
I understand everything more than ever.
come on, I said that like 3 times by now and your thanking jay ? 
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On February 14 2012 00:21 Kurumi wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2012 00:20 Toadesstern wrote:On February 14 2012 00:19 Kurumi wrote:
OH
I FORGOT
Thanks Jay.
I understand everything more than ever. come on, I said that like 3 times by now and your thanking jay ? Then sorry, he reminded me of Batman not being able to kill the Young Ghul.
yeah that's what I said 4 times by now :D
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On February 14 2012 00:24 Forumite wrote:
Anyone but me thinks Jay is scum from his last few posts?
yeah me as well. So if you're not mafia at least one on palmars list is bound to be wrong. Someone want to make some bets that I'm going to be the lucky finding the one guy that actually was NOT mafia next night?
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On February 14 2012 00:28 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2012 00:24 Forumite wrote:
Anyone but me thinks Jay is scum from his last few posts? yeah me as well. So if you're not mafia at least one on palmars list is bound to be wrong. Someone want to make some bets that I'm going to be the lucky finding another guy that actually was NOT mafia besides forumite next night?
that came out wrong. EBWOP
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On February 14 2012 00:30 Kurumi wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2012 00:28 Toadesstern wrote:On February 14 2012 00:24 Forumite wrote:
Anyone but me thinks Jay is scum from his last few posts? yeah me as well. So if you're not mafia at least one on palmars list is bound to be wrong. Someone want to make some bets that I'm going to be the lucky finding the one guy that actually was NOT mafia next night? You still have bullets, bro?
sure I have
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If Rad really is red that's a nice post. The nested quote is the important part:
On February 12 2012 01:16 Radfield wrote:This game is absurdly hard to keep up with right now. You guys need to slow waaay down. Lets stop the bickering and focus on scum, not on roles. + Show Spoiler +Regardless of what Toad and DocH are(I am inclined to believe their claims), both seem fairly town to me. DocH is playing his town game, and Toad seems sincere. I also like his two-face claim day 1 in an effort to draw 3rd party hits. It fits with his role. On February 11 2012 22:11 Palmar wrote:
we'll find out how immortal you are tomorrow toad. I think you're scum and faking it.
This is real smart Palmar...... there is no reason to discount Toad and DocH's claim, which means that the only way that Toad can die is if mafia take down Doc H. I'm also fairly certain that you don't have an unblockable shot. I wouldn't be alive otherwise... In fact, I'm not even so sure you shot me at all. My problem though is that I don't even have a real scum read on you, just a troll read. In particular your hit claim makes no sense: On February 11 2012 19:42 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On February 11 2012 19:42 rgTheSchworz wrote:On February 11 2012 19:35 Palmar wrote:
I got hit last night. Look, are you trying to troll us all this game? If you re not dead tonight I suppose you re somewhere on my lynch list. I'm not trolling I'm not lying. I got hit last night. Why did you not claim your hit straight off? Why wait? On February 11 2012 19:40 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On February 11 2012 19:37 rgTheSchworz wrote:
I say CW didnt hit last night. I am positively sure of that since I would be dead.
Someone lies.
Already told you dude, catwoman checked sheth last night. Again, this makes no sense. If I was Batman or Catwoman, I sure as shit would not DT Sheth. One, he was on the chopping block which means he was likely to die that night or get lynched the following day. Two, there were a ton of better targets to either DT or shoot if I was trying to snipe blues or Hugo. However, if you guys want to stick with the theory of me being the Bat or the Cat, I suppose that's alright. It gives me a certain amount of protection from mafia. That being said, medics should probably be going between me or DocH tonight. I somehow doubt that mafia buy Palmar's unblockable hit story, especially if mafia were actually the ones that shot me. At the very least, I think the doc that protected me should visit me again and the rest should bounce between us. Thoughts? On February 11 2012 23:15 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On February 11 2012 23:11 rgTheSchworz wrote:Whole advantage from this confusion is that we might actually have more information than scum now. Kita has been writing things such as these On February 09 2012 03:32 kitaman27 wrote:On February 09 2012 03:19 Radfield wrote:
Joker, you need to fire tonight, as there is a decent chance you are dead by morning.
Why is there a decent chance the joker will die tonight? Seems just as likely as any other vig. Either he hasnt been figuring out things or he doesnt want the joker to fire. I dunno, but vig targets do abound and we do have a shitton of vigs anyway. Also, he has dissapeared d2 and n2. Seems suspicious to me. I'd say radfield did not think I'm the joker and thought DocH is the joker because he apparently claimed that in that gay-phone-session. I actually thought Chaoser was the Joker for a bit. I didn't consider DocH faking the post. Due to that I was letting Chaoser slide more than I should have. Show nested quote +On February 11 2012 22:39 Toadesstern wrote:
my list still stands:
Chaoser
Sheth <--- dead
forumite
risk.nuke
opz
layabout
hiro
Lynch these people unless you got a good damn reason not to. I like this list, though I would add Evantrees and maybe Kurumi(who has started trolling now?), and drop layabout. Layabout doesn't seem like scum to me this game. + Show Spoiler +
Once again I'm gone this evening, and should be back just before the Daypost. If you really want to be productive, I highly suggest to stop posting and instead going back and rereading the second half of day 1 with the knowledge that Sheth is scum. That was a Day 1 swing towns dream about, but I just don't have the time right now to go back and read it(I haven't even read the phone QT for days). I will get to it eventually, but in the meantime it is the single most important part of this thread.
That means that my list was complete and utter bullshit.
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There is literally no reason to lynch palmar if he's the only one being RB'ed n2 and noone else claimed being rb'ed.
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and I said a lot of times that I think palmar is 3rd party. I as well did not realize that Talia is immune vs batman which was like the last puzzle piece that finally made everything clear. There's a shitload of reasons to believe Palmar is batman and it makes sense with his "WTF why are you still alive Rad" post from d2 if he really is Batman. You could argue that maybe Palmar lied about that as well and never shot Radfield but rad claimed to be shot as well, for whatever reason.
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batman is helping us right now if it really is palmar and my shots weren't exactly useful this game except for taking out a bunch of coinflip-lurkers that noone was able to read.
I'd say we lynch radfield (talia) today. Maybe kurumi will shoot into townies because he has to win as well. That's 4 KP, maybe 5 if mafia's vig is a multishot vig as well or he did not shoot until now.
If palmar kills me tomorrow he risks losing this game before finding hugo. There is no reason to kill me first unless he has to. Medics can't safe me and if palmar wants to kill me he does that. If we lynch palmar instead we give mafia an additional 3 free KP because we lynched someone who's not mafia to safe 1 (!) guy (that's me).
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On February 14 2012 01:21 Kurumi wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2012 01:21 Jayjay54 wrote:On February 14 2012 01:19 Kurumi wrote:
Schworz, are You a medic or vigilante? what? didn't you confirm his DT claim? Your name is not Schworz.
doubt that he's a vig if you look at the night hits. We're already wondering where all the mafia KPs are at. So you think he's ivy?
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I want to shoot VE this night. People agree?
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On February 14 2012 01:27 Jayjay54 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2012 01:22 Toadesstern wrote:
If palmar kills me tomorrow he risks losing this game before finding hugo. There is no reason to kill me first unless he has to. Medics can't safe me and if palmar wants to kill me he does that. If we lynch palmar instead we give mafia an additional 3 free KP because we lynched someone who's not mafia to safe 1 (!) guy (that's me). Wait. Let's assume Palmar keeps you alive and is shooting scum this game, then we have 2 KP at night (well, you two). If we lynch him, we'd have one KP. How does mafia loose 3 KP if we keep him alive? I do not want to argue here, I just don't get your point.
they don't lose 3KP but we lose a lynch.
If he keep him alive it would be roughly:
Lynch Mafia -> 3 dead townies -> lynch mafia -> 3 dead townies
If we lynch him it's
Lynch Batman to safe me -> 3 dead townies -> lynch mafia -> 3 dead townies
We'd simply waste a cycle and we can't afford to do that right now. Palmar simply can't afford to shoot me right now. He has to kill hugo. Maybe Kurumi is even going to shoot into us because he believes that two-face / penguin have bodyguards as well which would even increase Mafia KP.
There is literally no reason to FIRST shoot me and search hugo afterwards. I'm the safe kill for him right now, he can simply finish the game once hugo is dead afterwards. Therefore I'd also like to lynch rad because if he really is talia palmar has to keep on searching for hugo and can't outright kill me.
Remember mafia don't lose KP unless we kill deadshot / hugo, so they'll probably keep their 3KP for a while.
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On February 14 2012 01:41 Jayjay54 wrote:
I agree that we have to lynch palmar / radfield.
@Toad: What if we mislynch our only DT? That is even worse. Also, if you're killed at night one and survive otherwise, our batman lynch is backed up with your KP in one night...
Therefore, I go with palmar.
a) radfields name claim
b) I highly doubt we have 0 DTs in this kind of setup (this may be the noob in me speaking)
c) radfield check provided good information, I hope he continues to do so.
Right now, I have no reason to believe Rad lied at any point. Palmar has been doing things all over and I am sure if we mislynch Rad he just claims to not have claimed...He has been trolling all game long.
He will very likely flip batman right now, which would save Toad and give us an extra KP for a long time (assuming that Rad is being RBed)
##vote Palmar
They can simply RB me as well. Why did radfield never get roleblocked but palmar did? If palmar really got roleblocked that's incredible bad for him because he probably has no idea who's hugo yet. He still has to figure that out and is helping us while doing so.
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On February 14 2012 01:46 VisceraEyes wrote:
He's not Batman. He's pretty much CLAIMED Batman which is against the rules and playing against the rules isn't something Palmar does.
He's scum. Lynch it.
he never claimed batman.
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Okay here's the thing people. I'm pretty sure he won't shoot me because he still has to figure hugo out.
If he already knows who's hugo (palmar could have lied, never shot rad, checked him instead, said he shot him, making us think he he talia) and wants us to lynch hugo so that he can just shoot me.
That's a possibility and I'm willing to take that risk. Because in every other scenario he's helping town. Even if it's what I just said in brackets, which is highly unlikely given Radfield said he took a hit, I don't care. We have to win this and lynching Batman is not to win.
Yes I am the joker, yes I am a multivig, yes I might die, no blueroles don't win this game theirselves. We need to lynch mafia today.
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Not to mention that mafia has to deal with me as well and they have to deal with palmar.
Mafia can't kill palmar but he's most likely going to shoot into mafia => they'll RB him => he can't kill me or Hugo
Mafia can't RB me if they have to RB palmar => they're going to kill me => palmar knows that => no need to kill me unless Hugo is already dead.
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yeah they need to RB palmar tonight. They can't RB me even if they want to. And so far I said a lot of things. I said i'm going to shoot hiro, I said I'm going to shoot kita and I said I'm going to shoot you. Nevertheless I think you're mafia right now.
Mafia will not RB me tonight. They're probably going to kill me to reduce town KP.
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BC also said there's 4 people who are doing stuff that is ALMOST a modkill and the only reason he did not do that is because they're dancing around the rules and abusing them, although that never was on purpose. I figured 2 of them were DocH and myself, sry :p
I'd say we lynch Radfield or hiro tonight. I don't see a reason why radfield should still be alive / not be rb'ed as DT.
Maybe we've got another DT. Maybe he just never claimed. After all Two-Face and penguin are bound to be in this game.
If we mislynch and palmar really is Batman he has lost the game as well imo.
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