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On February 11 2012 23:11 rgTheSchworz wrote:Whole advantage from this confusion is that we might actually have more information than scum now. Kita has been writing things such as these Show nested quote +On February 09 2012 03:32 kitaman27 wrote:On February 09 2012 03:19 Radfield wrote:
Joker, you need to fire tonight, as there is a decent chance you are dead by morning.
Why is there a decent chance the joker will die tonight? Seems just as likely as any other vig. Either he hasnt been figuring out things or he doesnt want the joker to fire. I dunno, but vig targets do abound and we do have a shitton of vigs anyway. Also, he has dissapeared d2 and n2. Seems suspicious to me.
I'd say radfield did not think I'm the joker and thought DocH is the joker because he apparently claimed that in that gay-phone-session.
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On February 12 2012 02:27 Palmar wrote:
I never lie.
me neither
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Palmar claimed Two-Face early on after I claimed Two-Face. He claimed "everyone knows I'm just a retarded vet who tried to catch some bullets" and he claimed Joker afterwards. Basicly palmar tried to protect me because he thought I was making this immortality stuff up and did not realize that Jackal quoted the very phrase that proves that I am actually not bullshiting.
Nevertheless he tried to defend me. I don't want to lynch him, not before 4 or 5 other people die.
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Palmar Town in XLVIII:
+ Show Spoiler [click me!] +On December 05 2011 23:17 Palmar wrote:FOR GLORY![[image loading]](http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4001/4414494166_53023716fd.jpg) Show nested quote +On December 05 2011 13:11 Soap wrote:
I don't get day start, no one did nothing and we have nothing to analyze. I'm rnging.
##Vote Drazerk ##Vote Drazerk On December 05 2011 23:21 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On December 05 2011 23:20 sandroba wrote:
Seriously palmar? How about you tell me what you think about the cases people are pushing. vadersen to be more specific. Do you have an issue with lynching Drazerk? On December 05 2011 23:25 Palmar wrote:
Isn't Glory a reason?
when asked what's going on he kept saying he trusts his bro soap, claimed Dayvig and forced someone to post his spreadsheet or else he's going to get dayvigged within an hour. That guy claimed dayvig as well and while palmar was bullshitting the other guy (V7) turned out to be a real dayvig and straight up shot Soap
After that accident palmar was forced to play normal again because people (mainly mafia) were telling people not to trust palmar anymore as long as he keeps bullshitting around and noone was listening to him in that game although he straight up found a mafia on d2 which never got lynched until he claimed mafia openly in the thread. Palmar was Town that game
Palmar Town in L:
He got lynched day1 by BC for trolling / not caring and ended up being town. I don't really want to search that big of a game right now for posts that proves what I'm talking about but I'm sure most people will remember what happened. Palmar was Town that game
Fancy Conclusion: I do agree he's trolling WAY MORE this game but saying palmar doesn't troll as town is a straight up lie. He cares for town if he's town but lately he started doing stuff d1 like I approached it this game: As long as someone else people are listening to is pushing the right buttons there is no need to pull a p4n on us, bomb the thread with 20 different cases and yell why I am right and not the guy presenting case X. As mafia he's not even reading the thread. That proves that he's not mafia this game but could very well end up being 3rd party or blue. However, I don't see a reason to lynch him yet.
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even if palmar is third party we shouldn't be that afraid of him
On February 10 2012 00:20 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On February 10 2012 00:18 Toadesstern wrote:
Batman has no reason to shoot palmar tonight. Palmar claimed joker that got Kills.
Batman has no problem at all leaving a joker alive that is activly hunting and shooting at hugo himself. That's the best thing that could happen to batman and once hugo died he'll just use a single night action to kill Palmar.
Easy win for Batman. If you're batman, read this. This is how you can help us win the game, and we can help you win the game.
Sounds like he agrees with me. If he is batman that means he's not going to get DocH killed first.
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as long as you shoot me and not DocH that's fine with me
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On February 12 2012 03:57 Kurumi wrote:
Schworz is not Two-Face.
And Toad is not Joker, or whoever he damn claimed.
bugs doesn't think I've got the balls to do that and I kind of can understand thinking that way.
Speaking of bugs. Where is he? I thought he's town because he's behaving so stupid but he hasn't shown up for ages. He should have walzed in this thread calling me a retarded liar who's just trying to pull of the same trick I tried to pull of n1 with Two-Face instead of claiming joker by now.
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stop talking about stupid stuff. We already talked way too much.
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On February 12 2012 04:20 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2012 04:18 VisceraEyes wrote:
Radfield is off the table for tomorrow. Between chaoser and Palmar, I prefer to lynch Palmar. He built this convoluted bullshit case against chaoser based on Sheth's flip, yet he was trying to derail the Sheth wagon in favor of its conclusion. His play isn't making any sense, he's trolled hard and the only time he's appeared to make any real effort was his retarded case against chaoser.
I'm telling you guys, we should lynch Palmar tomorrow. I think he's scum. I think we should take the possibility that he's third-party as evidence that he's not town and just get rid of him. Don't waste bullets on him either in case he is the bats. DIE SCUM
lol, funny I thought VE is probably town as well but that were exactly my thoughts as well 
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I can't die tonight. Leave it with that, stop talking about it. As I said palmar knew all along what role I am from n1 and I don't want you to talk about it DocH. Perhaps he found something in my filter that made him think about this situation again. Just stop it for now ok?
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noone shoots rg, noone shoots palmar, noone shoots kurumi, wtf is going on with you.
There's way better targets.
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I'm just afraid schworz might flip worst DT I ever saw and I got good reason to believe so.
I'm willing to lynch him later on but for now we'Ve got bigger fish in the pool and that fish is chaoser. We can still go after schworz later on.
What he did does not make sense from a mafia perspectiv neither does is make sense from a town perspective. A mafia however get's coaching from his allies. So it's not mafia imo. That leaves me with either BM-townish or with third party.
Just answer me this one wbg. Why should he claim DT who got a red check on docH and push for docH's lynch if he knew it to be wrong?
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anyways I'm off to bed now. Will read the big posts tomorrow again and post something about it and what stuff is wrong imo.
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oh crap. Worst vigi ever
n1 "ah ok I'm going to hit either sheth or Kenpachi... Kenpachi it is"
n2 "mkay, probably someone is going to hit chaoser... so let's hit opz instead".
sry guys but I'm at least making analyses easier now that all those scummy people are dead. I'm like a maid, cleaning the filth around. I am totally like a lurker bane this game!
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Btw I doubt Batman would have shot clayface. I don't know exactly what those vets are like but I read "batman can't kill you" as "even he needs two hits and not just one". Yes he knew I am immortal but he should have also know that mafia NEEDS to see clayface and me dead, because again, 2 confirmed townies is not good for them. Neither is leaving a fucking imba role alive although that guy seems to be an idiot
Sooooo. I'd say batman used his DT tonight and tried to find hugo or he shot me to test if I really am immortal and not bluffing. I don't get a notification if I'm shot so I can't tell you guys. That at least means we got another DT check to work with.
Rad mind tell us what you found? Of course only if it's not a blue.
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On February 12 2012 20:52 Jayjay54 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2012 20:43 Kurumi wrote:On February 12 2012 20:42 Jayjay54 wrote:On February 12 2012 20:38 Kurumi wrote:On February 12 2012 20:32 Jayjay54 wrote:On February 12 2012 20:25 Kurumi wrote:On February 12 2012 20:21 Jayjay54 wrote:On February 12 2012 20:11 rgTheSchworz wrote:
I am Two-Face.
you claimed so yesterday, you also said that CW dted you. So why the fuck are you still here? Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit. what's the result on chaoser? "guilty as expected"? @kurumi: where is you foundation for rG being town? maybe you can defend him, if he can't himself with other words than "I am two-face, I say so all the time. Duh." He was obvious CW target N1 with claiming Two-Face. I am sure she did shoot him. He's not dead. That means he's town or Batman. I don't understand that logic. If he is scum, cw wouldn't kill him, would she? So the logic jump from He's not dead => He's town / batman. is flawed... CW checks him, he's goon, so why bother and kill him. He is also NOT batman. Batman would not claim DT IMO, because of the RB danger- She did not check him, she hit him. Also WBG is dead. alright, kurumi :D you assume bugs not bussing d1 plus cw hit instead of dt. I'll go with bugs might even bus d1, cw dts. Because his play his too bad to be town. My vote stays on him. If you believe, like I do, the latter, your vote should join mine. His defense is more than subpar. Bussing scumbuddy D1 is terrible play. About CW. Oh well. You'll see. It's not really bussing it's one (strong) case under several at the very beginning of the day. I can see that being valid as scum. he also has a case on BM who you believe is scum, right? Toad this shot wasn't really as good.
yeah sry. They got a medic and with all the talk about Chaoser I figured he's probably going to be mediced. I am imba but my shots don't penetrate medic protection. Therefore it was either hiro or opz for me. The coinflip told me it has to be opz!
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On February 12 2012 11:52 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2012 11:41 Toadesstern wrote:
I'm just afraid schworz might flip worst DT I ever saw and I got good reason to believe so.
I'm willing to lynch him later on but for now we'Ve got bigger fish in the pool and that fish is chaoser. We can still go after schworz later on.
What he did does not make sense from a mafia perspectiv neither does is make sense from a town perspective. A mafia however get's coaching from his allies. So it's not mafia imo. That leaves me with either BM-townish or with third party.
Just answer me this one wbg. Why should he claim DT who got a red check on docH and push for docH's lynch if he knew it to be wrong? why would he do that as town? are you thick? as scum that takes loads of pressure off his scumbuddies. If he was scum with Sheth that makes PERFECT sense. In fact, even the retraction makes sense from a scum perspective when it was obvious Sheth would not lynch. People like you are unwilling to believe he's scum now just because he's a new player and you legitimately think he could be that bad to do that as town. It makes no sense from a GOOD mafia perspective, but it certainly does from a bad one. It makes no sense at all from any kind of town perspective because it just serves to shit on town objectives.
btw I take it schworz is confirmed townie for now. Noone lynch or shoot him.
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On February 12 2012 21:08 Jayjay54 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2012 21:00 Toadesstern wrote:On February 12 2012 11:52 wherebugsgo wrote:On February 12 2012 11:41 Toadesstern wrote:
I'm just afraid schworz might flip worst DT I ever saw and I got good reason to believe so.
I'm willing to lynch him later on but for now we'Ve got bigger fish in the pool and that fish is chaoser. We can still go after schworz later on.
What he did does not make sense from a mafia perspectiv neither does is make sense from a town perspective. A mafia however get's coaching from his allies. So it's not mafia imo. That leaves me with either BM-townish or with third party.
Just answer me this one wbg. Why should he claim DT who got a red check on docH and push for docH's lynch if he knew it to be wrong? why would he do that as town? are you thick? as scum that takes loads of pressure off his scumbuddies. If he was scum with Sheth that makes PERFECT sense. In fact, even the retraction makes sense from a scum perspective when it was obvious Sheth would not lynch. People like you are unwilling to believe he's scum now just because he's a new player and you legitimately think he could be that bad to do that as town. It makes no sense from a GOOD mafia perspective, but it certainly does from a bad one. It makes no sense at all from any kind of town perspective because it just serves to shit on town objectives. btw I take it schworz is confirmed townie for now. Noone lynch or shoot him. wow it's really easy to become confirmed town these days. 1. Every scum accuse strongly each other. 2. One scum dies. 3. ???? 4. Profit.
it's wbg + Schworz man. No way he would have pushed his own teammate so hard to get towncred, especially given under how much fire he was. Maybe he wanted to bus him but than again, why should he keep doing that after I gave him a reason to stop it?
Also, mafia tripplestacked Clayface (wtf?) if noone else claims a hit. I told people to medic him and I'm just going to assume people are at least from time to time listening what I'm saying, especially when I'm a confirmed blue role so I'd say he got more hits than protections. Also I shot opz, which only leaves clayface and wbg and I hardly doubt they shot wbg themselves. Of course again, only if there's no other hit claimed but it hardly matters.
It's probably improving our situation. Everyone knows I am confirmed Joker. Batman knows my immortality never was a fake to begin with, he also knows I am now mortal. Mafia still has to kill me and they will. Batman sure as hell won't waste a hit on me, he can simply let mafia deal with me now that I'm mortal again and search for Hugo. Mafia hits are np to some degree because medics can save me after all. EZPZ. I'm still up for lynching people like hiro or chaoser.
So far my night action record tells me to just lynch the guy who ended up being 2nd mosts legit target for my nighthit and not the guy I actually shot. Sounds like a plan to me.
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On February 12 2012 21:27 Jayjay54 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2012 21:17 Toadesstern wrote:
it's wbg + Schworz man. No way he would have pushed his own teammate so hard to get towncred, especially given under how much fire he was. Maybe he wanted to bus him but than again, why should he keep doing that after I gave him a reason to stop it? WIFOM. I just don't see this as a big enough town tell to justify all of falseclaims...sorry. My vote will stay there. Show nested quote +On February 12 2012 21:17 Toadesstern wrote:
Also, mafia tripplestacked Clayface (wtf?) if noone else claims a hit. I told people to medic him and I'm just going to assume people are at least from time to time listening what I'm saying, especially when I'm a confirmed blue role so I'd say he got more hits than protections. Also I shot opz, which only leaves clayface and wbg and I hardly doubt they shot wbg themselves. Of course again, only if there's no other hit claimed but it hardly matters. You don't know if / how he was protected. If mafia tripplestacked there could be number from 0-2 protecting him. You also forget the possibility of scum shooting third. Show nested quote +On February 12 2012 21:17 Toadesstern wrote:
It's probably improving our situation. Everyone knows I am confirmed Joker. Batman knows my immortality never was a fake to begin with, he also knows I am now mortal. Mafia still has to kill me and they will. Batman sure as hell won't waste a hit on me, he can simply let mafia deal with me now that I'm mortal again and search for Hugo. Mafia hits are np to some degree because medics can save me after all. EZPZ. I'm still up for lynching people like hiro or chaoser.
Chaoser was "checked" by our beloved falseclaimer. Since he didn't say otherwise, I'd say it came back blue / green. Hiro is still a good choice (since no one questions rG).
the fuck? I missed the post where he said he checked chaoser.
Of course falseclaim is bullshit as town, it is bullshit as no matter what. I just think if he'd mafia people would have told him not to do that. But that check on chaoser is something new. Why did he check chaoser out of all people? The only reason I believe him to be town was because I thought he checked either me or docH, found Joker and didn't believe his check, therefore jumped to the conclusion that the guy has to be godfather / third party. Which is obviously bad play.
But check chaoser? If he is SO CERTAIN that clayface is red so that he makes up a fakeclaim to "prove" he's red, why did he check chaoser instead? It's not like he found something weird in chaoser and instantly goes "OMFG I found X in chaoser, therefore Toad has to be mafia which leads to the conclusion that DocH is mafia as well! I'ma goinf to make up a fake check".
That makes no sense at all. I am seriously considering him again. But than again... wbg attacked him, he got coaching from good players if he ends up being red and I doubt BC would give a third party role to someone like him (no hard feeling^^).
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