See the problem here is that that's how I am leaning as well, which means that it's kind of echo-chambery up in here. The biggest thing to fear during endgame Mafia is groupthink. I feel like redFF has been overall too aggressive and too helpful (in some sense) to be a mafia player, and I think V7 was being helpful earlier on, but I'll have to reread his filter. Compared to the travesty that is Hesmyrr's filter, GGQ's posting history, etc... it kinda seems fairly clear to me. I'm completely ignoring his whole vote-request thing because I think it's just as likely he's a VT or a scum player doing a hilarious bluff, by the way.

In any case, I guess I'd like to hear from Zeph, Hes, and GGQ about redFF and V7.

Zeph, Hesmyy, GGQ: If one of you is town, you really need to put together a case on redFF or V7. We don't have any more mislynches this game, we need to get it right.

In any case, I am in agreement, and it is for that reason that I am mildly concerned. It's possible we totally have this locked up, but we must have constant vigilance.

Hesmyrr

Canada5776 Posts

February 07 2012 18:02 GMT

#1082

Why don't you kill me and find out
Jesus Christ this town.

Blazinghand

United States25552 Posts

February 07 2012 18:05 GMT

#1083

Hesmyrr, if you are town, it is your OBLIGATION to make a real defense right now, which means making a good case on redFF and/or V7, right now. Currently you look scummy as hell.

Blazinghand

United States25552 Posts

February 07 2012 18:31 GMT

#1084

Or you could be a worthless guy. Alright.

##Vote: That punk Hesmyrr

Hesmyrr

Canada5776 Posts

February 07 2012 18:59 GMT

#1085

gogogogo

Blazinghand

United States25552 Posts

February 07 2012 18:59 GMT

#1086

On February 08 2012 03:58 Hesmyrr wrote:
##Vote: Hesmyrr

any explanation for this?

vaderseven

United States2556 Posts

February 07 2012 19:24 GMT

#1087

On February 08 2012 03:58 Hesmyrr wrote:
##Vote: Hesmyrr

On February 08 2012 03:02 Hesmyrr wrote:
Why don't you kill me and find out
Jesus Christ this town.

Da Fuck?

I was at a lose as to how to approach today as it is lylo or lylo -1 at best (4 or 5 scum... I can't see 3 scum in this setup especially after looking at the sleeper cell 1 setip) and noone has really listened to me even though I made it VERY CLEAR that voting GGQ is the ez choice for nailing scum.

You just made it easier I think.

You litterally aren't allowed to 'ruin the game' which I think self voting as town would do.

Cheating:
Cheating includes (but is not limited to):
...
2. Ruining the game
...

There is no hammer in this game so there is no reason for me to hold my vote while you come to your senses. You are either claiming scum or trying to set the town up to lose on purpose.

##vote Hesmyrr

If you grow up and decide to try to play the game out do let us know because I would love to see how this all plays out without someone emo quiting at this point.

>=/

I mean really, we have all invested time (some of us got sick enough that we thought death was possible during the game and still played it out... just sayin) and its just not fair no matter the team you are on to pull this stunt.

I also tend to find it is scum players that pull this kind of stunt. Especially this late in the game.

If Hesmyrr is scum like he pretty much just confirmed he is, that means RedFF has some explaining to do. I am fairly sure that means you are scum. Explain this vote / unvote thing please. At this point, it isn't a matter timing it is a matter of you are pretty much confirmed scum and you have been shady about something in the thread. Now I have to call you on that and find out whats up.

vaderseven

United States2556 Posts

February 07 2012 19:32 GMT

#1088

BTW, if anyone wants to wake up and realize how simple of a matter it is to lynch GGQ as scum I will be down for that ANYTIME.

vaderseven

United States2556 Posts

February 07 2012 19:33 GMT

#1089

On February 08 2012 04:32 vaderseven wrote:
BTW, if anyone wants to wake up and realize how simple of a matter it is to lynch GGQ as scum I will be down for that ANYTIME.

Poor wording

BTW, if anyone wants to wake up and realize how simple of a matter it is to lynch GGQ, as he is scum, I will be down for that ANYTIME.

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iGrok

United States5142 Posts

February 07 2012 19:54 GMT

#1090

Self-voting is legal, as stated in the Rules.

Blazinghand

United States25552 Posts

February 07 2012 19:56 GMT

#1091

That's fine, it'll just make him easier to lynch.

vaderseven

United States2556 Posts

February 07 2012 20:25 GMT

#1092

I noticed its legal nature in the rules as well. Is this something we should WORRY about? Is this self vote a wierd trigger for something?

The only other reason that I can see for that rule is some connection to redff requesting votes.

redFF

United States3910 Posts

February 08 2012 00:38 GMT

#1093

Whatsup yo.

Vader, if you think I'm scum, why did you vote and unvote me? lol

On February 08 2012 03:02 Hesmyrr wrote:
Why don't you kill me and find out
Jesus Christ this town.

Dat obvscum
If you actually are town I will be kicking myself for not policy lynching you.

On February 08 2012 00:23 Zephirdd wrote:
So, we go the same way as scamp and all-vote hesmyrr?

##Vote Hesmyrr

what's your read on hesmyrr?

Zephirdd is tomorrow's lynch in case anyone is wondering.

On February 08 2012 04:24 vaderseven wrote:

Show nested quote +

Tunnels GGQ for 4 straight days, hops off to scummyr for dat ez towncred. If I was as sure of a read as you seem to be and it was LYLO I wouldn't be hopping off my no1 scumread so easily. How come you felt the need to post such a drawn out justification of your vote on obvscum hesmyrr?

If you grow up and decide to try to play the game out do let us know because I would love to see how this all plays out without someone emo quiting at this point.

>=/

I mean really, we have all invested time (some of us got sick enough that we thought death was possible during the game and still played it out... just sayin) and its just not fair no matter the team you are on to pull this stunt.

I also tend to find it is scum players that pull this kind of stunt. Especially this late in the game.

If Hesmyrr is scum like he pretty much just confirmed he is, that means RedFF has some explaining to do. I am fairly sure that means you are scum. Explain this vote / unvote thing please. At this point, it isn't a matter timing it is a matter of you are pretty much confirmed scum and you have been shady about something in the thread. Now I have to call you on that and find out whats up.

Lol @ this attempt to set up a redff mislynch in a couple days. Sorry bro I can 100% guarantee that that will not happen,
How does Hesmyrr's scum flip make me scum? Any associative tells or is it simply because I'm the only one you think you have a chance at mislynching(you don't)

Tomorrow zeph, the day after V7.

Jackal58

United States4264 Posts

February 08 2012 03:08 GMT

#1094

Welcome back red.
Where is GGQ in your list?

redFF

United States3910 Posts

February 08 2012 03:11 GMT

#1095

after vader, but I doubt it will get to that point

Jackal58

United States4264 Posts

February 08 2012 04:34 GMT

#1096

So you think there are only 2 scum remaining?

redFF

United States3910 Posts

February 08 2012 04:40 GMT

#1097

I dunno

vaderseven

United States2556 Posts

February 08 2012 05:07 GMT

#1098

Red, Im reacting to the reads given by our dead DT and idea of 4 scum.

If I have to scream till Im blue in the face that GGQ is scum I will but at this point no one seems to give a flying fuck.

I am very willing to move on to self voters in situations where apathetic town would just go afk instead of putting on the drama.

Notice how I have mentioned that GGQ is obv scum like every other post for fucking ever.

Notice how no one cares?

Would you keep that pressure on for that long when there is other scummy as fucks around?

But lol at you posting that me talking about anything else makes me scummy ;D

I mean, jeez, its not like the guy didn't ask for it. He self voted and emo quit the game during my lunch break.

vaderseven

United States2556 Posts

February 08 2012 05:08 GMT

#1099

BTW i like how you are willing to down one obv scum and then move on to these chain lynches that seem to avoid the most obv scum of all game which IS ggq.

GG QQ.

Blazinghand

United States25552 Posts

February 08 2012 05:32 GMT

#1100

Good pun.

I consider GGQ to be much scummier than all the other potential scum except Hesmyrr, and barring some whack shit happening, will be pushing for his lynch tomorrow.