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And just think, once the votes start piling up on a few individuals, we can't be sure they're going to stay in good hands. Mistakes are bound to be made. Do I trust, for instance, Palmar to pick somebody who's town? Yeah, kinda. Do I trust whoever he picks to also do so? That's less likely. Keep in mind that we don't have the reliability of the flip to hold those with voting power accountable. It's all too easy for just a couple of mafia with a couple extra voting power to slip in and make a majority, and then what? I want to re-iterate that if we don't hold people accountable for not following the voting circle, things are going to get very bad very fast, because as long as two mafia remain alive they aren't going to lose the lynch. It will only take one or two slip-ups to give the lynch to scum, and at that point it is over. It is for this reason that I am going to ##Vote: Palmar. Put simply: if we want to live, we follow the fucking voting circle. | ||
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The reason the circle jerk is a good plan is that it forces the mafia to play our game. In order to gain an advantage vote-wise, the mafia has to make a choice. Do they kill purely to retain votes? Or do they try to kill strong town players and snipe blues? They only have one KP every night. If I was the mafia, I know which one I'd consider more important. | ||
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Okay, I still honestly believe the circle jerk is the town's best option by far. It's easy, it's safe, it's enforceable, and I still don't understand why we need to look at where people send their votes when we still have the tried-and-true method of seeing who people actually vote to lynch. But I'm willing to drop it if that means getting a lynch in today -- and it's pretty clear that it's useless if multiple people don't follow it, which is going to happen whether I like it or not. Reading through WBG's posts, I'm not getting huge scum vibes, but that's at least partially because I agree with much of his logic, which it's clear a lot of people don't. It seems that a lot of the votes going towards him are based on his meta, which I don't know very well. But at the very least he has a strong, stated opinion on a plan, which is something scum would like avoid. VisceraEyes, on the other hand, has wavered wildly. In-thread, he's gone from supporting the circle-jerk, to being against it, to giving mild support for it again. In the latter case, his opinion changed in the space of a couple of hours. I feel that he isn't figuring out what the actual best approach is, but is instead trying to sneak in with whatever the popular opinion of the time happens to be. Also, there's this: I think Palmar is town based almost exclusively on the fact that scummy players like Paperscraps are defending the way he's playing. Wha? Just... what? ##Vote: VisceraEyes | ||
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On January 29 2012 08:52 jaybrundage wrote: Thats the problem thats how WBG plays. He thinks what a townie would do and tries to imitate them. Thats why its so damn hard to catch him as scum. Hes damn good at it. WBG is very aggressive regardless of his alignment. And hes very convincing. And to be honest why wouldn't scum want to be convincing. By being loud they can carry there agenda easier. Which games were WBG scum in? I'm considering dropping the hammer on him, but am still unsure. In a no-flip setup, I don't think that a risky lynch is that much better than a no-lynch, though I would still rather see somebody hang in the next half hour. I definitely am not going to vote for sentinel, though. | ||
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On January 30 2012 04:38 Dirkzor wrote: So we got no plan for the vote trade? Cool. Good thing we spend the first 2 days talking about that. And why are you arguing over the WBG lynch? Whether he was scum or not is not super relevant right now and you have to way to get the truth. And we should lynch chaoser... Discussing a lynch is plenty useful -- and what else are we going to do while we wait for the day post? I mean, obviously the discussion should come before the lynch, but asking people to justify their actions is never a bad idea. I've got bad feelings about you, but I'll wait for the day post to get into it. | ||
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I might not be around until a couple of hours after the day post, but I should definitely be more present than I have been today. Kindly wait for a couple of hours if Palmar decides that I'm mafia.  | ||
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I also gave a vote to [UoN]Sentinel, for the same reasons as yesterday. | ||
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##Vote: layabout | ||
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On February 01 2012 13:14 prplhz wrote: Node, did your hit flip alignment and role or only alignment?. Only alignment. | ||
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On February 01 2012 14:42 Paperscraps wrote: So why did Palmar die? Did mafia have a way to bypass a medic/jailer save? or did the medic/jailer try and wifom and save someone else? I was rb'ed so hmmm. What do you all think? I wouldn't be surprised if the same player couldn't be incarcerated twice, or at least not twice in a row. See the Sheriff role in TL Mafia L for a recent example of this. In fact, it sounds like you were jailed last night, since Palmar said that he was roleblocked N1. | ||
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On February 03 2012 10:14 Jackal58 wrote: Ya I am guessing just 1 Visc/Bugs 1 is definitely scum. Most likely Visc. LSB Chaoser Nice shot Node. I wouldn't have had the balls to shoot him. I assume since he flipped you shot him. I didn't shoot him, I only got one shot. | ||
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I'm glad you guys outted Jackal, I've been super-busy the past few days. I still enjoyed playing this a lot, and I'm glad I helped town win for once. ^^ | ||
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