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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
December 29 2011 15:39 GMT
#38
##Signup
Men I changed my mind, this game just seems to fun to pass up on. (Hope I'm not too late)
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
January 04 2012 18:58 GMT
#190
Sup, I'll read the thread soon, I'll post when I have something to say.
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
January 05 2012 18:52 GMT
#345
I don't like people posting who they think are town exept when It's in the defense of someone who looks like they are getting lynched. Our job is to find scum. If you think someone is town, you tell them you get a nullread on them or better don't talk about it at all. Belive me bluelightz when I say I don't like a post with a few townreads and no scumreads one bit. There are plenty of reasons why we shouldn't talk about our townreads. It makes it easier for scum to kill our strongest townreads. It makes it harder to discover the motive behind a kill. A scum who belives he is viewed as town won't feel as much pressure. A townie who belives he has confirmed himself might get a bit full of himself and play less optimal.

Bluelightz
Bluelightz is playing without a worry in the world. The nature of most of his posts seems completely carefree. When a townie is confronted with suspicious imo they get nervous and tries to find where they messed up and try to explain it. Bluelightz just shrugs it of. + Show Spoiler +
On January 05 2012 21:36 Bluelightz wrote:
Okay here's the continuation of my reads

Errandor, Null: Lurking cannot determine alignment

Grackaroni, Null: His posting contains his case against me and discussing about the lurkers in this game.

HarbingerOfDoom, Null/Leaning Town: His posting contains discussion of strategy for town, Discussing LA-Lurkers

Jackal58, Null: 2 posts since the start of the game cannot determine alignment.

Layabout, Leaning Town: When I compare when Layabout was town in Student and if he is town here his posting style is much the same being aggressive and starting discussion

Mr.Wiggles, Leaning Town: His posts while not alot has very good content.

Palmar, Leaning Town/Null: His post's generate discussion and he starts discussion himself.

RebirthOfLeGenD, Null: Lurking cannot determine alignment.

Refallen, Null: His posts contain discussion about the lurkers,etc

risk.nuke, Null: Has not posted alot

syllogism, Leaning Town/Null: His post's generate discussion and he also shares his reads with others.

Tyrran, Null: While lurking a little I can't determine his alignment

xsksc, Null: Needs to start posting

Zepphird, Null: His post's discuss about LA-Lurkers and strategy

Okay I'm done if you have a question about my reads go for it !

Now, I have many town reads because this is day 1 and also people haven't posted much(including me)

So, here it is!
Read the top.
+ Show Spoiler +
On January 05 2012 05:08 Bluelightz wrote:
First, I don't like the idea of lynching lurkers because more or less it justs waste's us a townie and

Next, I think the people that are not posting should be chec

Lastly, I don't have a scummy read on anyone yet.

Doesn't want to lynch a lurker.
On January 05 2012 14:27 Bluelightz wrote:
Okay, ill just give my thoughts on LA-Lurkers

First,

I don't think that lynching lurkers benefit town in any way.
Usually it results in a townie lynched(BByte lynch in student mafia as an example)

Also,

Here's the list of people I want posting

xsksc
Cwave
risk.nuke
Errandor

That is all.

Doesn't want to lynch a lurker.
On January 05 2012 21:46 Bluelightz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2012 21:42 Palmar wrote:
So who would you lynch Bluelightz?


Right now, since we have no real option I would like to lynch a lurker.

Wants to lynch a lurker.
While his response could seem understandable because he did say he'd like to lynch a lurker in lack of better options. But then there is this
On January 05 2012 21:59 Bluelightz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2012 21:49 Palmar wrote:
On January 05 2012 21:46 Bluelightz wrote:
On January 05 2012 21:42 Palmar wrote:
So who would you lynch Bluelightz?


Right now, since we have no real option I would like to lynch a lurker.


Yes, but which lurker, and why?


At this point, I would wait if xsk starts posting, risk.nuke too.

But if they don't i'm all ears for lynching them

I would lynch RoL right now because he hasn't posted anything when I searched for RoL post's in the thread I haven't found any post's by him

He is clearly quite fond of the idea of lynching lurkers.

Going back again to when Palmar asked him who he would like to kill. His initial response was catastrophic. He said "an unspecific lurker" and avoided the pressure of the question. He changes his mind and he changes his target to RoL but on a very weak basis.
Conclusion: He plays carefree, doesn't seem to giving things more then a brief thought before having an opinion which leads to him often changing his mind. Not traits that strikes me as townish in a complicated mafia game.

Refallen
What I don't like about refallen is he posts just to look town.+ Show Spoiler +
On January 04 2012 16:52 Refallen wrote:
Finally started! Hype!

My first thoughts on the setup;

Obviously, I think the best way to go about this game is to focus on killing angels in the early game. Once we get rid of the acolyte, the seer has an infinitely easier job in cleansing corruption because we can actually claim if we got corrupted and not get targetted right now as we get closer to the late game lynching demons obviously becomes more and more important, but town would have a huge benefit if we can reduce angel KP early on in the game, as this has a building effect of letting more townies live = demon corrupt has less of an impact.

Even though I approve of strategy talk to give us something to talk about day 1 this doesn't fit. This is just empty. There is nothing here that can be of used by town or be discussed about. Fluff.
+ Show Spoiler +
On January 05 2012 10:22 Refallen wrote:
Alright, I just woke up, first thoughts:

Why is everyone tunneling the lurkish newbie? He is sooooo likely to flip town instead of scum. Just look at Election Mafia, and XLVIII. In almost every case, the lurking newbie simply turns out to be just that, a newbie, which explains his low-posting. We definitely do not want to be wasting a lynch on him.

Show nested quote +
it might be good to kill him just because even if he is town he could be useless.


This is never a good idea. Even a town who is completely non-contributing serves as an extra KP before LYLO, and for most newbie towns, they will be sheeping the case which most people are already on, in effect letting town have an extra vote. We should never ever ever kill town "because he's useless at it".

I'm not sure what you're going on about having a solid case. How does one make a solid case on someone who has 3 posts and told us they're going afk for a bit on the very first day of the game?

For now, I don't have a lynch target.

I want Palmar to start posting.

Everyone is not tunneling, coming to the rescue so quickly you don't even properly analyse the situation. Eager to appear protown?
The rest of the post is...
"fluff"
"I don't have a lynch target"
"I Want palmar to start posting"
+ Show Spoiler +
On January 06 2012 02:23 Refallen wrote:
Think this makes me 3/3 of me being discussed as lynching on day 1 as a townie, my play sure is good /sarcasm.

Honestly though, was at a friends birthday party, just got home, about to sleep.

Syllo, and others, I don't see how showing angels were a bigger threat than demons would paint me as anti-town. Keep in mind that the context of the post when it was made; all of us were discussing the setup (mainly because it was start of day 1 and it served as a topic of discussion.) Obviously the point about us not being able to tell who was demon/angel makes the whole discussion basically practically useless, but it provided a topic for us to start talking about the game (if you want useless posts, see palmars kite claim)

With that said, I'll be reading through the thread tomorrow and posting who I think are suspicious. Right now at least my previous suspicion of Palmar has been assuaged at him posting and being his usual bullying town self.

This is just a stall post imo. He confirms he knows he is beeing looked at but doesn't write much for a defense. Instead he just says that tomorrow he'll write something usefull.
Conclusion: I don't like his posts so far and I'm suspicious towards his hype followed by nothing but fluff. I'm waiting for his thoughts tomorrow and some better defense wouldn't hurt him.

xsksc
xsksc and the meta. What is xsksc up to? I might be wrong but this doesn't feel like the townie xsksc I am used to.
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
January 05 2012 19:18 GMT
#354
syllo, I started the post about 2 hours ago. I share what I want to share when I want to share it. Don't try and control me and please don't try to meta me. All my games I have a different style because I play varying of my mood.
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
January 05 2012 19:56 GMT
#363
Syllogism, there are two days left why woudl I commit to lynching this soon. I took the topics of the time and wrote my thoughts on them. Then I wanted to see who would comment on it further, what they would say, who would push for their lynch etc. What the hell are you doing? commenting on how useless I am when you don't know my agenda which you just ruined because you didn't think it through. Or were you planning on pushing for my lynch today. Cause if you weren't there is nothing pro-town about calling me out. I'm town and you're forcing me to reveal what I wanted to do. If I had been scum you would had just tipped me off instead of saving it for a case you would write against me.

Blazinghand quit floating around and write something helpfull yourself.
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
January 05 2012 20:05 GMT
#365
in conclusion to what.
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
January 05 2012 20:24 GMT
#368
Atleast dignify me with pointing out where everything I said I was just copying others because that is not true.
I wasn't anxious because I didn't think you were seriously suspecting me. You're just beeing shallow and lazy.
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
January 05 2012 20:39 GMT
#370
On January 06 2012 05:08 HarbingerOfDoom wrote:

@risk.nuke
Isn't carefree play usually a townie trait? How does seeming carefree implicate bluelightz? The "everyone looks town!" is surely incriminating, but I am not finding the carefree being incriminating. Why would town get nervous when accused? They know they are innocent. Explaining themselves, yes, but I know I get annoyed, not nervous.

It depends. If you are having a single one or two people accusing you, you get annoyed. Like I am now now with syllo. Or example in steamship prplhz tried to get me lynched on a bad case. I got annoyed. Then there are situations where you have a majority of people looking suspiciously at you. You've likely messed up and done something to justify their suspicions but you need to defend yourself. If you mess up town mislynch you. There is a situation I would be nervous in.
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
January 06 2012 03:45 GMT
#416
I don't want to lynch palmar because first of all he is Palmar and secondly he seems to be missing.
Why should we lynch the (imo) best player in the game in a 2 mafia team setup day 1.+ Show Spoiler +
On January 06 2012 11:43 Jackal58 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2012 11:14 Refallen wrote:So to conclude my posting for now, my lynch targets are Palmar and risk.nuke. Among the two, I'm not sure who I want to lynch first.

Are you scum too? There should be zero confusion about which of those 2 you would want to lynch if you believe them both to be scum. No offense risk.nuke but you're not scary. Scum Palmar is scary.


This is just fearmongering.

@Refallen, it is a townie priority to look town. But what you're doing is not that. You're writing useless posts hoping on a brief glance they will make it look as you're contributing. And when most of your posts are like that I get suspicious. There is nothing wrong or scummy with anyone of your posts. But they are all very easy to make as a scum.

And I have not made a case yet, if you think what I wrote on you and bluelightz are cases I promise you this. When I make a case it will have a conclusion that says this guy is scum and we should lynch his arse.
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
January 06 2012 03:51 GMT
#419
I'm not reading anything that long tonight, it's 5 am and I'm only up because sweden are fucking bosses at hockey!!
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
January 06 2012 19:24 GMT
#520
The thread have really come to a stop since yesterday. I'll write my opinion on who to lynch tonight when I have time to review. You may or may not look forward to it. I don't know if it will be "mindblowing" or "meh".
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
January 06 2012 23:40 GMT
#546
Got bussy writing the daypost for newbie mafia. I'm here now.
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
January 07 2012 00:04 GMT
#553
Erandorr is very likely scum. Simply because a non-posting Erandorr is a red Erandorr.

Jackal58 is another person who would likely bleed red. The first thing he does is attack palmar and keeps at it using tunneling and fearmongering, while I am also slightly leaning red on palmar I don't think Jackal would hit him this hard if Jackal was town-aligned, he's just trying to get rid of palmar any means neccersary. He justifys it by saying he always attack palmar day 1 but I think this is just an excuse. He takes a break from his Palmar tunneling to rightfully rage alittle on people listing no-reads but it doesn't mean anything and he haven't contributed anything himself exept tunneling palmar.
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
January 07 2012 00:15 GMT
#560
Blazinghand what are you on about?
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
January 07 2012 02:00 GMT
#585
Slowly and steadily I'm beeing raised to the top, scumagenda *cough*
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
January 07 2012 19:00 GMT
#638
Okey I'm here, I didn't expect the spanish inquistion. I'll start answering your questions. Feel free to post them again if you want me to answer them immidiatly otherwise I'll be startin' with bitchslapping syllo and checking out lylos stuff.
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
January 07 2012 19:05 GMT
#641
So syllogism I don't like having meta thrown in my face. First of all nobody likes having meta thrown in thier face because it's not really something you can defend yourself against. But there are different sorts of meta. There are meta of people who have played alot of games who's meta can be very clear (erandorr). Then there is meta of people who have played games as both mafia and town. Then there is meta against me who have only played as town. I mean I've had people calling me out on meta in all of my games exept 1 or 2 and I've always been town including this time so I'm getting a bit sick of it.
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
January 07 2012 19:07 GMT
#642
No I don't think syllo is scum and I haven't pushed him so quit saying I have.
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
January 07 2012 19:15 GMT
#645
@Palmar you wanted to know about my ridiculous idea. Well prepare yourself for ridiculousness. At the time I was having a blast sitting up there anonymous reading every word people were saying. It was a great discussion to. Due to my habit of vetoing the first bandwagon on principle with few exeptions I wasn't going to lynch bluelightz, Refallan I was actually slightly suspicious of. Anyway the discussion had pretty much slowed down so I wrote a few thoughts that wouldn't get either of them lynched but rather to just fuel the discussion. I was also having an eye on blazinghand back then (yeah don't worry I've dropped him, butI though he was fishy at the time) I hate day 1 and I just wanted to get as much information as I could hoping I might find a good case against odds.
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
January 07 2012 19:16 GMT
#646
Dirkzor it's monty python. Happy Birthday Erandorr.
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
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