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The first thing I notice is that he seems irrationally defensive. Syllogism calls him out, and he seems to get very defensive, very quickly. Actually, a fair portion of his posts are all in response to being called out. Something funny I noted is that he called out xsksc for meta reasons, and then becomes angry at Syllogism for doing the same to him. Something else, in comparison to Steamship, which others have brought up (I read his day 1 posts), is that in that game, he was rather free with his votes, using them to pressure and to scumhunt. In this game, after 48 hours, he has yet to vote, and gets mad at Syllo when he brings this up as well. Also odd, is that he says, "there are two days left why woudl I commit to lynching this soon", which seems very odd, as it's possible to change your vote, and to change your mind. It seems like an easy way to misrepresent what has been said and slip out of being held accountable. What do you think of this? The only meta in it, is that you were more free with your vote in steamship. | ||
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I don't want a no-lynch. | ||
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RoL, have you read "the last few pages" yet, it's been a half hour. | ||
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On January 08 2012 09:41 risk.nuke wrote: whew, I'm so god damn relived right now That typo is actually kind've funny. | ||
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On January 08 2012 09:43 Refallen wrote: Risk if you're some kind of role you should claim, just pointing ouy Why are you role-fishing? | ||
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On January 08 2012 09:54 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: Yeah, but I sent my new vote after the lynch rofl. Whoops! I thought it ended at 8:00, didn't realize it ended at a 45, how irritating. It does end at 8:00, but it's instant majority. Day ends as soon as majority is reached, whenever that is. | ||
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 Also, the AoD either didn't hit, or it's one of HoD or syllo. Acolyte missed. All people sent to purgatory are now targets of the channeler. | ||
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On January 09 2012 10:41 Mr. Wiggles wrote: Ah man, who will I lynch today now? Also, the AoD either didn't hit, or it's one of HoD or syllo. Acolyte missed. All people sent to purgatory are now targets of the channeler. Or acolyte/AoD hit one of Syllo/HoD, forgot about the protection part of purgatory for a second. Those are quick conclusions I'm drawing from the flip. I'm happy the demons lost their RB power, but it would have been nice if Palmar was the concealer. I'm going to go back and read with how people acted towards him. | ||
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@Jackal: Why do you think it's more likely the town channeler would have used his ability on HoD and not Syllo? | ||
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I was basically going to post something like: RoL:
On January 10 2012 08:29 layabout wrote: Essentially, If he believes his plan is good for town then regardless of whether it is good or bad it is not scummy to suggest the plan. If he believes his plan is bad for town, then it follows that it is scummy. This is a very weak criticism, as RoL will always say that he thought his plan was good for town, especially if he is scum. What you're saying only holds under the assumption he is town, and we can all know he is town, which we obviously don't. Pushing a bad plan doesn't automatically make you scum, but you have to look at the plan, the player, and how they're pushing it. There's also the difference between a bad plan, and an anti-town plan. A bad plan just won't work, an anti-town plan will hurt the town. | ||
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On January 11 2012 16:37 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: As a side note, I read a few of the tyrran analysis and I found them well reasoned, I will try to give my own thoughts on it tomorrow. On January 12 2012 17:34 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: So what happened to this?just got home, F5'd and saw the lynch. I will get out my analysis before the day post tomorrow, hopefully I can get some done before work tomorrow, but if not after 6pm EST I will be home trying to get some shit done. On an unrelated note, if anyone likes medieval art and lives around NYC, fort tryson has a pretty cool renaissance collection that I checked out today. It's called The Cloisters and going to it gives you admittance to MET as well during the same day. Remember way back at the start of the game, where I made a distinction between inactives and lurkers? A lurker is someone who comes in, makes a useless post to appease everyone, and then leaves again, continuing this as necessary to keep pressure off themselves. Who does this sound like? So far, RoL has yet to contribute any original analysis, or even thoughts, on other players. So far he's said he agrees with analysis on Erandorr, Tyrran, and risk.nuke, but he doesn't actually give any additional reasons for thinking they're scummy (except one for risk.nuke, and that was his only reason). Beyond that, it seems like he doesn't say anything about any other player. Regarding his plan. For me, it seems like he never cared much about it. This might sound weird, because most of his posts are about it, but he isn't actually pushing people to put it into action. He argues often about its merits, but he's not actually trying very hard (or at least exerting the same effort) to implement it. This is weird, for someone most of the town is convinced believes strongly in his plan. So, RoL continues to make excuses. He continues to not talk about other players in the game. He focuses on a plan that he doesn't actually push to get put into action.These don't exactly scream town to me. Once again, a good shot or check for tonight. | ||
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On January 13 2012 04:43 Dirkzor wrote: You kinda pointed out that the time to roleclaim was now during the night. What i meant was that it doesn't matter if we roleclaimed on day 2 or night 2. The difference is that it would have been better to roleclaim day 2 so we had an extra lynch. And he stopped pushing for the plan when almost everyone said it was a bad idea. Yeah it is a problem if only VT claimed. That would have been bad. But people aren't stupid, so unless town agreed-ish to do this no one would claim unless they were/are morons. Risk claimed, and i think he did so partly for the reason he wrote and partly because he know if was a potential lynch target. Everyone else would not have claimed unless town agreed to do so. So yes the idea to make VT claim was faulty by it self, but the logic i just pointed out would have been made by anyone with half a brain. So thats why i think its unlikely he proposed his plan to deliberatly pull out VT's. RoL claimed VT with his post starting the plan, or did you ignore this? Does that make him a moron in your eyes? Also, there's still no reason for VT's to claim, why would there be? It just spams up the thread, adds nothing to it, and opens the possibility of Blues fake-claiming, which according to the plan itself, is bad. Here's a question for everyone who seems reticent to lynch/kill RoL: Why do you want to keep him alive? If you say because he's a good player, that's a terrible reason. You don't keep people alive because of their opportunity values, especially when their posting indicates they don't care about the town, and they have done nothing to prove their worth in this game. If you say it's because you think there's better people to lynch, that's a terrible reason as well, because then you shouldn't want to keep RoL alive, you should just want to kill him after your other targets. If you think there's a better lynch, then push it, but it doesn't mean that you have to defend other lynch targets, unless you think they are town. Do you think he's town? Then answer this question: Why? Give me a complete answer too, and know that making a plan, halfheartedly pushing it, and doing nothing else isn't pro-town. @Jackal: What do you think of RoL's play so far? | ||
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On January 13 2012 02:38 layabout wrote: Wiggles why did you just publicly announce that you think it would be good to check or shoot RibirthOfLeGenD? and everyone else what's with the inactivity? Because I want him shot tonight by the DH. He probably won't flip, though, as I get the feeling he's an angel more than a demon, so the seer can potentially check him as well. It also solves the problem of having to convince people to lynch him if he flips demon, as most people seem very reluctant to push anyone who they see as a "vet". @Blazinghand, you still haven't responded to the contradiction that Syllogism pointed out in your posting. Do so. | ||
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