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Liquid`Sheth
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States2095 Posts
December 12 2011 03:42 GMT
#199
So, I posted mine without reading radfields post. What he says seems smart. I'd like to see Palmar + Syllo be called Arctocod though. Thats their hydra name and its stupid to keep calling gotenks goten + trunks. And I can see that you are both experienced players, from your previous game list. I'd read that before even starting this game. I'd like to point out that I can really be helpful too as either Mayor or Pardoner and would like to throw myself up there with you in the running for Mayor. I'm a good townie and really love this game. I take an agressive tac with this sort of thing and would like to continue on in this game and not get killed at night early. Getting that job is a sure fire way of making it a ways and it looks like a lot of fun. I'll be very active and try and keep everyones input properly if I do end up getting one of these jobs. And I'm not a complete follower.

I won't always follow what everyone says just because everyone says it. I'm ready for a position in this game. I want to contend and end this game quick. I get the basic read from Redfield that hes clean though. Just from the imaginary tone I hear in my head. Obviously I can't tell anything for sure and this is just basic. So TL:DR I'd like to be mayor, or pardoner I think I'll do a good job of it, but I also think Radfield could do a good job too. Havn't seen a post from Arctocod yet to even know if they want to run yet as well, so can't comment on that!
Team LiquidUnderneath it all they were really quite nice. They just got screwed up. Mostly by stuff that wasn't entirely their fault.
Liquid`Sheth
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States2095 Posts
December 12 2011 04:25 GMT
#206
@zeks I think I'd like one in office and to try and keep the other around to keep good reads on the the one in office. I do think we need to hear from Arctocod first and I too am interested in the others who are planning on running a campaign.

@prpthz I like that your going to vote for the person who is the most active and transparent in this game. I think your somewhat contradicting yourself when you said both "I will not vote for anyone based on what they've done on other games" and then "I have never played with you before and I have a hard time understanding this imaginary tone".

I get your point though on me. II'm not trying to run on a campaign that is fueled by fear. I just enjoy the part of being active in town and this is a good way to do it. I've read a lot about Mayor and I understand his roles. He acts as a town safeguard, gets 2 votes on elections and lynchs and cannot be killed by mafia. Pardoner gets 2 chances to pardon people who he thinks are innocent of general lynches.

And as for me thinking I'm not the best choice, well I honestly don't think I'm clearly the best choice for Mayor. I think I'd do well to learn this though. I'm not one to just sit out because I "might not be the best for the job" because I honestly feel that I can be the best for the job. I don't have tons of practice games, but I'm definetly a quick learner and I've tried my best to be active and transparent. Two things I think are important in a Mayor / Pardoner. And as for the imaginary tone, well I liked what he said and the way he said it. It basically means to me that I didn't see anything in what he said that at all hints towards being a mafia.

@ Gylgas I realize I'm not that experienced at the online version of this, although I have played quite a few offline games of mafia. I realize I'm not easily the "best or most experienced" for the choice. However I do feel that I'd learn and fill in the shoes properly. I ask questions if I'm not sure, and I don't have any questions about this topic anymore. I don't claim to have it down as well as veterans who have played it before, but I think I have potential in playing it the best. Yea I'm definetly a cocky egotistic person. I get it, and I dont mean to come off condesending if I do.

And as for Jitsu's lynch policy question I really liked your answer on this GylgaS. Lieing to protect a blue is fine, but even then lieing can be oh so dangerous. I'm a huge fan of removing blue's unless its fairly certain there not red. As for the candiates so far, I've only seen Radfields and Gylgas's. To keep it short, they both seem like good posts. I hope mine seem as good too...
Team LiquidUnderneath it all they were really quite nice. They just got screwed up. Mostly by stuff that wasn't entirely their fault.
Liquid`Sheth
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States2095 Posts
December 12 2011 04:27 GMT
#207
Just a quick thing that I realize could sound stupid that I send. And in fact does sound stupid. "The mayer gets 2 votes on elections and lynchs" I meant or. Or at least I realize its or now.. I'm trying ><
Team LiquidUnderneath it all they were really quite nice. They just got screwed up. Mostly by stuff that wasn't entirely their fault.
Liquid`Sheth
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States2095 Posts
December 12 2011 05:18 GMT
#217
I think in most games, the mayor/pardoner can somewhat control the game. They are also unkillable by Mafia until the bodyguard/s are gone. So if we have two town there, its great. Where as two mafia... well it removes a place of power that we have as town. I really think both of those roles are extremely powerful and should only be chosen with the greatest care.

The last thing you say is, "woudln't it be worse to have them out of office if they are town?" Why would you think that? =X
Team LiquidUnderneath it all they were really quite nice. They just got screwed up. Mostly by stuff that wasn't entirely their fault.
Liquid`Sheth
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States2095 Posts
December 12 2011 05:26 GMT
#221
Well you kind of answer your own question. "Isn't it very important we get these two positions filled up by people who are not mafia?" Then you say Isn't it more important that we fill them up with people who can find scum if they're town. So you want people who are town in the position, so they can find scum.

There is no way to figure out if someone is "100%" mafia either. Oh percentages, how I hate sheepycat or w/e his name is for over using them on EVERY single read he ever had. And what do you mean theres only one way to get confirmed and that way kinda prevents people from getting elected afterwards? I honestly just don't know....
Team LiquidUnderneath it all they were really quite nice. They just got screwed up. Mostly by stuff that wasn't entirely their fault.
Liquid`Sheth
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States2095 Posts
December 12 2011 05:27 GMT
#222
Ah, didn't realize you were ninja'ed, and the above post was directed to your earlier earlier comment for those coming in late.. Give me a sec and I'll answer your next question.
Team LiquidUnderneath it all they were really quite nice. They just got screwed up. Mostly by stuff that wasn't entirely their fault.
Liquid`Sheth
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States2095 Posts
December 12 2011 05:31 GMT
#224
@prpthz I geuss the only thing I find kind of wrong with your post was this : You say you'd rather have ProfBA and Radfield/Arco in office for the reason if there scum, they'll obviously slip up, but if there town they'll find the scum for us. I think your missing the logic that if you want them in cuz there good at this game, then there probably good enough not to make such an easy slip up... So, If we put someone who is extremely good at the "Head" of our team even if it is just a metaphorical "Head" it'll be extremely tough if hes Scum. I could be wrong, but thats just my oppinion based on thought process alone not too much actual experience. So please tell me if my logic is wrong on this.
Team LiquidUnderneath it all they were really quite nice. They just got screwed up. Mostly by stuff that wasn't entirely their fault.
Liquid`Sheth
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States2095 Posts
December 12 2011 06:09 GMT
#238
@Greymist What do you think about what prplhz just said above your post?
Team LiquidUnderneath it all they were really quite nice. They just got screwed up. Mostly by stuff that wasn't entirely their fault.
Liquid`Sheth
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States2095 Posts
December 12 2011 06:33 GMT
#247
On December 12 2011 15:19 Arctocod wrote:
We can't be elected on consecutive days? That's disappointing. Anyway, we are obviously running Radfield and I have to say I don't like you based on your very first post! Still, that's based almost on nothing substantial so unless that changes I recommend voting you into the office along with us. Even arbitrarily assuming there's a 50/50 chance that you are mafia, I feel that it's optimal to elect you given that you can't run tomorrow and if we are elected as well we'll be around to make sure you are still making sense.


I imagine Palmar will write a real announcement post later, but

Vote for us

Sheth are you mafia? Innocent lives hang in the balance so this is important!



You mean "We are obviously running, Radfield. And I have to say I dont like you based on your very first post!" Or just like that? I'm pretty sure, but could be missreading. You're really flippant on this to just lets vote for me and Radfield "Vote for us"
And the reason we should elect him is bescause then he can't run tomorrow is stupid. Anyone elected can't run the next day, it doesn't only apply to him. At least you say its not based on anything substantial.

I actually slightly dislike your + radfields campaign now just from this post. The fact that you already think I'm mafia might somewhat be biasing my post. But I like people asking questions so no I'm not mafia. Are you mafia ? DrDoom will release the train and kill innocent people if you answer falsely!
Team LiquidUnderneath it all they were really quite nice. They just got screwed up. Mostly by stuff that wasn't entirely their fault.
Liquid`Sheth
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States2095 Posts
December 12 2011 06:47 GMT
#253
Ok, so I'm going to bed. Heres pretty much everything I'm thinking so far.

I'm townie and were going to win this. Dues ex is saying something stupid in that "us 4 are the ones that will die obviously" because then well, what if the 2 hydra's not elected do just die.. I think they are all pretty strong and you saying this might have just killed them. I geuss mafia might just figure it out and medic can save one so w/e, but I still dislike you saying this outloud in this game. Arcotocod and Dropbear are both so agressive. I don't think either should be voted to Mayor / Pardoner. Radfield hasn't said anything from his one post, so I kind of don't think he should be mayor based on that, but I really think hes townie. Just from a random gut read. I like Greymist and what hes saying and I get a weird vibe from PRPlhz.

I do really want to be a mayor or a pardoner as well, but as I'm learning, being new can really screw you over with this sort of thing. I do think its smart to vote in people who are very well experienced though so I get it. I just think I could play this role well even if I dont get it this turn. Anyway.. I'll write more on everything when I wake up. 2am here almost, so I shall see you guys tomorrow!
Team LiquidUnderneath it all they were really quite nice. They just got screwed up. Mostly by stuff that wasn't entirely their fault.
Liquid`Sheth
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States2095 Posts
December 12 2011 06:50 GMT
#254
Ok, I see what your saying Arcto.. makes sense.
Team LiquidUnderneath it all they were really quite nice. They just got screwed up. Mostly by stuff that wasn't entirely their fault.
Liquid`Sheth
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States2095 Posts
December 12 2011 18:19 GMT
#329
Heyo, I'm back from being a sleep. Reading four pages and now going to try and comment on them....

First thing I saw, was Arcto you said something like "because of this I'm really trying to get pardoner!" and your next post had "vote for me for mayor!" Just wanting to make sure, you still want to be pardoner right? You just want the votes to get that spot?

Secondly the Dues-ex vs risk.nuke is good, I like see'ing two players argue about anything. Its quite helpful. In this argument I think Dues-ex is more logical, but there getting off topic from the election / lynch.

Radfields comments are again good. I'm getting like this pure read from him for now. Just seems legit.

Greymist why are you saying who you are voting of for sure alreaedy? Why Arctocod and not radfield? I agree that the veteran hydras are definetly in danger of getting shot first though because of their experience. Its pretty frustrating to have to write that though. Because it means I really don't have much of an honest reason to run for Mayor.

I still feel like I'd be great at the position, and like arctocod said, maybe I would be. But, I'm not going to be an obvious target for mafia first shot.. I hope... (If I am, I'm killing you arcto!) I still really love the idea of being able to affect this game in more ways then just voting, but I didn't realize how the elections were working.

The new information that Mayor / Pardoner are for life (I think most of us thought it was for one day or two days only or something?) and that tomorrow we vote on new roles is pretty cool. I think we should save two veterans who have good townie "feels" about them. I'd like to hear a lot A LOT more from the lurkers. ProfBA has the lamest campaign ever, but the coolest picture for it. Dues ex are you running as well? I just don't remmeber.

And cascades, did you choose your name because of juggling? I'm just blindly curious as its the first thing you learn to do as a juggler, and curious if your a fellow juggler? XD!
Team LiquidUnderneath it all they were really quite nice. They just got screwed up. Mostly by stuff that wasn't entirely their fault.
Liquid`Sheth
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States2095 Posts
December 12 2011 18:20 GMT
#330
Hey Dues-ex I'm active yo, whats up?
Team LiquidUnderneath it all they were really quite nice. They just got screwed up. Mostly by stuff that wasn't entirely their fault.
Liquid`Sheth
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States2095 Posts
December 12 2011 18:28 GMT
#332
I'm learning so many new acronyms and double checking my spelling a bit. If nothing else, mafia is teaching me to be better at English. Ok, so I didn't mention anything about the pardoner situation.

I think there should be a 0 tolerance rule on using the pardon. You shouldn't be able to use the pardon for anything. With one exception. If the majority of town agrees you should use it. Technically if the majority of town agrees that you should use it, we should have the right person lynched. However if something crazy occurs we can use this, or if last minute we all decide to change our votes because of something obvious thats come to our attention. However these are both REALLY case specific things. So I'm sticking with just DONT USE the pardon, Unless we all decide to use it together or we kill pardoner next round.
Team LiquidUnderneath it all they were really quite nice. They just got screwed up. Mostly by stuff that wasn't entirely their fault.
Liquid`Sheth
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States2095 Posts
December 12 2011 18:29 GMT
#333
Heyo Prplhz! How do you feel about both Radfields and Arctocods campaigns ? Anything that's making you lean one way or the other?
Team LiquidUnderneath it all they were really quite nice. They just got screwed up. Mostly by stuff that wasn't entirely their fault.
Liquid`Sheth
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States2095 Posts
December 12 2011 18:45 GMT
#342
Gotcha. I like this new signing thing. Make sit much nicer to understand the hydras.

So your just running for a spot, either spot.

The elected position is able to effect the game in a few more ways especially for this game I think. There have been a lot of people who havn't posted yet. A lot of people who probably won't take the time to read all 17 pages of this and think deeply on whats been said. Its just a fact because I think we have a lot of newer players to the game. Even myself, if I havn't had a lot of time to read the most recent posts because say I'm playing in some tournament or whatever for the 3 of the 4 hours before we vote I'm going to see what the mayor says first.

Its just natural I think to look to the mayor / pardoner and see what they say. Its so easy to just back them up because they have that sort of "good feel" to them. Where you don't want to go against either office simply because everyone else must agree with them or they woudln't have been put in office at first. Like even now with you in a "leading position" for office, its hard to disagree with you. Its just a slight psychological thing that isn't "immaginary" as someone posted earlier.

This game is all about psychology so clearly this position can help you affect the game in more ways then just the voting. The voting is huge as well, it allows you to be an extra person, however I get that its not a big deal until closer to the end.

And I'm fine with getting over this election thing today, but I dont want to end it without hearing more from other people who have campaigns started. I'm kind of annoyed that most of them just wrote "I want to be mayor" and then left it at that..
Team LiquidUnderneath it all they were really quite nice. They just got screwed up. Mostly by stuff that wasn't entirely their fault.
Liquid`Sheth
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States2095 Posts
December 12 2011 18:47 GMT
#343
On December 13 2011 03:40 DEUS-ex-MAFIA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2011 03:25 prplhz wrote:
I'll be voting either Radfield or Arctocod, using my vote to put as many of them in office as I can.

@zeks Hey, you said that you'd like to lynch a hydra or a mayor candidate, so you want to lynch either Radfield, Arctocod, ProfessorBadass, DEUS-ex-MAFIA or TotallyNotTwoPeople? Hydras because your sixth sense tells you that one of these are scum and mayor candidates because you think that scum has at least one candidate running? Am I understanding this right?


Zeks disappeard when I called him out for his HORRIBLE ideas.

Show nested quote +
On December 13 2011 03:19 Liquid`Sheth wrote:
Secondly the Dues-ex vs risk.nuke is good, I like see'ing two players argue about anything. Its quite helpful. In this argument I think Dues-ex is more logical, but there getting off topic from the election / lynch.


You got it. lulling me is good way to collect towncred.



And pointing out I'm trying to collect towncred is a good way for you to get some good towncred too. =)
Team LiquidUnderneath it all they were really quite nice. They just got screwed up. Mostly by stuff that wasn't entirely their fault.
Liquid`Sheth
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States2095 Posts
December 12 2011 18:51 GMT
#347
Compreissent, they have immunity on day2 from getting lynched, and they have immunity on every night until the BG is dead. I believe.
Team LiquidUnderneath it all they were really quite nice. They just got screwed up. Mostly by stuff that wasn't entirely their fault.
Liquid`Sheth
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States2095 Posts
December 12 2011 18:57 GMT
#348
Arctocod so, you think its stupid to lynch who we elect anytime soon after we've elected them? And whoever tries to lynch them could be mafia? This is basically what I've been saying earlier about the advantage those positions gain.

I completely agree though, there had better be a great reason if were lynching who we elect, as the whole reason we elected them was so they'd be in good positions to not die..
Team LiquidUnderneath it all they were really quite nice. They just got screwed up. Mostly by stuff that wasn't entirely their fault.
Liquid`Sheth
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States2095 Posts
December 12 2011 19:05 GMT
#350
So dues, I didn't see if you ever answered me earlier when I asked. Are you running for a position as well?
Team LiquidUnderneath it all they were really quite nice. They just got screwed up. Mostly by stuff that wasn't entirely their fault.
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